ecu tune locked?

templarklimek · 08-04-2010, 05:38 PM

Gents,

Brough my in car to moterwerks in houston for a few upgrades. Everything is good however I need to bring it back tomorrow to finish the
ECU tune. Appears that bmw has locked out the ability to change the ECU. They can do it but needed and extra day to hack it or whatever. Is this new for MY 11'?

Just a heads up for everyone.

11' E92, comp package,tech,6spd,extended fox, blk.

DoNDoN · 08-04-2010, 05:50 PM

I have also heard this. If anyone updates their software then they will get this ECU lock.

Andrew 912 · 08-04-2010, 05:55 PM

Yes, According to my Tuner in Germany that they do lock the ECU preventing the remapping. Huh.....

templarklimek · 08-04-2010, 05:56 PM

Does this mean no ecu at all for MY 11's. Or is a workaround available? yikes.

LateBraking · 08-04-2010, 06:07 PM

Dinan and ESS claim to be able to work around it. I think that PowerChip claimed to be able to do this as well? I'm not 100% positive.

Roman@ESS · 08-04-2010, 06:43 PM

We can tune the new locked ECU's. Right now about half of the ECU's we get in for supercharger software or NA software are locked. Every new M3 and any M3 that goes to the dealer will be updated.

Daft · 08-04-2010, 07:41 PM

My ECU is on it's way back from ESS right now and I'll get it tomorrow. They didn't report any problems so it's all good! I have a Canadian spec 2011 E92 comp pckg.

Roman@ESS · 08-04-2010, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Daft

My ECU is on it's way back from ESS right now and I'll get it tomorrow. They didn't report any problems so it's all good! I have a Canadian spec 2011 E92 comp pckg.

Your ECU was locked

noxredna · 08-04-2010, 08:24 PM

Powerchip is still resolving the issue - not sure what's the latest status on this, they didn't come back to me..

I switched to GIAC because I had a time attack event

klammer · 08-04-2010, 10:05 PM

picking my car up with the ess tune tomorrow. can't wait, first track day on monday, will see how it goes...

Bob MG · 08-04-2010, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rom3n

We can tune the new locked ECU's. Right now about half of the ECU's we get in for supercharger software or NA software are locked. Every new M3 and any M3 that goes to the dealer will be updated.

Yup I updated my cars software at my dealer and it over wrote the ESS file. ECU was locked as all updates now do.
Shipped back to ESS for new file, recieving the ECU back today.
Thanks for my re tune Roman

VT2 600 upgrade yeah baby!!

m33 · 08-04-2010, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob MG

Yup I updated my cars software at my dealer and it over wrote the ESS file. ECU was locked as all updates now do.
Shipped back to ESS for new file, recieving the ECU back today.
Thanks for my re tune Roman

VT2 600 upgrade yeah baby!!

why did ya allow them to delete , how long did the dealer take to load the overwrite ?

Bob MG · 08-05-2010, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by m33

why did ya allow them to delete , how long did the dealer take to load the overwrite ?

I installed the LCI tail lights and needed the retro fit tailight coding.

BMW machine said I needed to update all other modules, DCT updates, etc, so I couldn't do it any other way and the warning lights re the tail lights were starting to irritate me.

Also the DCT update is apparently a good one as it addresses the lag issue again.

It took 4 hours for the update to programme and it lost connection twice, so ot had to be re done twice.

They also picked up my Blue tooth module was cooked and had to be replaced under warranty, so all in all I was happy to have it done since it gave me an excuse to upgrade from 575 kit to a 600. Nothing wrong with extra lb of boost no??

HP Man · 08-05-2010, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob MG

I installed the LCI tail lights and needed the retro fit tailight coding.

BMW machine said I needed to update all other modules, DCT updates, etc, so I couldn't do it any other way and the warning lights re the tail lights were starting to irritate me.

Also the DCT update is apparently a good one as it addresses the lag issue again.

It took 4 hours for the update to programme and it lost connection twice, so ot had to be re done twice.

They also picked up my Blue tooth module was cooked and had to be replaced under warranty, so all in all I was happy to have it done since it gave me an excuse to upgrade from 575 kit to a 600. Nothing wrong with extra lb of boost no??

Sounds like fun. Do you have any issues running the 600 kit without ESS' DCT software?

tom @ eas · 08-05-2010, 11:07 AM

We have been able to program newer models with the security lock as well in house with GIAC software.

Bob MG · 08-05-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HP Man

Sounds like fun. Do you have any issues running the 600 kit without ESS' DCT software?

From what Roman has said, there is no issues in manual mode, which I always drive in anyway. When in auto I drive slower

AJ@ESS · 08-05-2010, 03:01 PM

The VT2-600 will run fine with stock DCT softare as well, the shifting will just not be as fast and responsive as with the ESS DCT software.

Bob MG · 08-05-2010, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AJ@ESS

The VT2-600 will run fine with stock DCT softare as well, the shifting will just not be as fast and responsive as with the ESS DCT software.

Come and flash my dct software please AJ

Hunter399 · 08-24-2010, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by iBeJayKaying

Dinan and ESS claim to be able to work around it. I think that PowerChip claimed to be able to do this as well? I'm not 100% positive.

False, I was told by my local Dinan dealer they can't tune 2011s

m33 · 08-24-2010, 07:53 PM

Forum member IMG went to the dealer today to up date his retro fit LCI tail lights , they updated his software without effecting the ESS tune ...
Then again he knew the tech

tom @ eas · 08-24-2010, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m33

Forum member IMG went to the dealer today to up date his retro fit LCI tail lights , they updated his software without effecting the ESS tune ...
Then again he knew the tech

LCI tails are controlled by the FRM, which have nothing to do with the DME.

klammer · 08-24-2010, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunter399

False, I was told by my local Dinan dealer they can't tune 2011s

Dinan might not be able to, but ess can. Been driving with the tune for almost a month now, drives great and love the higher redline for the track... Works great with the full akra... Love it...

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08-04-2010, 05:55 PM	#3
Andrew 912 //M addicted Drives: AW M3 E92 - MR X6M Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Massachussetts Posts: 128 iTrader: (0)	Yes, According to my Tuner in Germany that they do lock the ECU preventing the remapping. Huh.....
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08-04-2010, 05:56 PM	#4
templarklimek templarklimek Drives: 13' X6M, 14' M6 CP, M235 OTW Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 585 iTrader: (0)	Does this mean no ecu at all for MY 11's. Or is a workaround available? yikes.
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08-04-2010, 06:07 PM	#5
LateBraking Brigadier General Drives: Reliable Cars Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Pacific Standard Time Posts: 3,879 iTrader: (27)	Dinan and ESS claim to be able to work around it. I think that PowerChip claimed to be able to do this as well? I'm not 100% positive.
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08-04-2010, 06:43 PM	#6
Roman@ESS BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: ESS Supercharged E92 M3 Join Date: May 2007 Location: AZ Posts: 2,421 iTrader: (5)	We can tune the new locked ECU's. Right now about half of the ECU's we get in for supercharger software or NA software are locked. Every new M3 and any M3 that goes to the dealer will be updated.
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08-04-2010, 08:24 PM	#9
noxredna Captain Drives: 2008 BMW M3 Coupe, 2012 BMW M5 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Philadelphia & Singapore Posts: 670 iTrader: (0)	Powerchip is still resolving the issue - not sure what's the latest status on this, they didn't come back to me.. I switched to GIAC because I had a time attack event
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08-04-2010, 10:05 PM	#10
klammer Brigadier General Drives: 11 spc gry m3 e90, 07 X5 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: chicago Posts: 3,142 iTrader: (0)	picking my car up with the ess tune tomorrow. can't wait, first track day on monday, will see how it goes...
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AJ@ESS BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: E60 M5 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: USA Posts: 199 iTrader: (0)	The VT2-600 will run fine with stock DCT softare as well, the shifting will just not be as fast and responsive as with the ESS DCT software.
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08-24-2010, 07:53 PM	#20
m33 Banned Drives: E92 VT650 MCB Individual Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CT Posts: 2,697 iTrader: (5)	Forum member IMG went to the dealer today to up date his retro fit LCI tail lights , they updated his software without effecting the ESS tune ... Then again he knew the tech
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