M3 GTS track video, driven by Dirk Adorf, German race car driver - Page 2

piloto · 08-01-2010, 05:30 PM

That's cool for sure, and I understand it was more of recon lap, but why NO HELMET? That's just crazy. It's not like that track had a lot of runoff. Certainly he showed he has the driving skill, bug what if a tire let go, or the brakes failed, or something else went wrong? I think it's crazy to not be wearing a helmet.

Evice · 08-01-2010, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by H Bomb

its the camera, my go pro does the same thing. no idea why annoys the hell out of me

Mine does that too. Not always.

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Originally Posted by piloto

That's cool for sure, and I understand it was more of recon lap, but why NO HELMET? That's just crazy. It's not like that track had a lot of runoff. Certainly he showed he has the driving skill, bug what if a tire let go, or the brakes failed, or something else went wrong? I think it's crazy to not be wearing a helmet.

Don't worry about it, let HIM worry about that. LOL.

e92_m3 · 08-01-2010, 07:16 PM

First of all, that is one great video.

So that's where the "woof" sound comes from in a DCT (you can hear it towards the end of the video). I have a 6-speed so I don't know what the "woof" sound is like as stated by DCT owners. The "woof" sound can also be achieved in a 6-speed by rev matching. However IMHO, the "woof" sound created by the DCT seems a lot more well executed because it looks like it does the rev matching on the exact RPM's everytime! You get the perfect "woof" sound whenever you drive a DCT.

Hmm, with that said, I should test drive a DCT for myself...

CORTDD · 08-01-2010, 07:38 PM

Took me a while to realize why he kept reaching down toward his wienerschnitzel. Pretty amazing car. The ultimate point and shoot.

BMW3R · 08-01-2010, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by e92_m3

First of all, that is one great video.

So that's where the "woof" sound comes from in a DCT (you can hear it towards the end of the video). I have a 6-speed so I don't know what the "woof" sound is like as stated by DCT owners. The "woof" sound can also be achieved in a 6-speed by rev matching. However IMHO, the "woof" sound created by the DCT seems a lot more well executed because it looks like it does the rev matching on the exact RPM's everytime! You get the perfect "woof" sound whenever you drive a DCT.

Hmm, with that said, I should test drive a DCT for myself...

DCT is the only way to go!

docjay · 08-01-2010, 09:32 PM

Great Video!good driver!superb control!

ADubM3 · 08-01-2010, 10:08 PM

Obviously the guy knows what he is doing. As a 6 m/t owner I was really impressed with the DCT tranny. The shifts were quick and smooth. I just drove my friends Lambo Gallardo and the shift shock from every shift when WOT was not as quick and jolting. Anyway nice video, was very interesting.

MadMan77 · 08-01-2010, 10:26 PM

Is it me or does the DCT in the new GTS sound almost like it has straight-cut gears or have I just not heard it in all the other M3 DCT vids?

skierman64 · 08-01-2010, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by piloto

That's cool for sure, and I understand it was more of recon lap, but why NO HELMET? That's just crazy. It's not like that track had a lot of runoff. Certainly he showed he has the driving skill, bug what if a tire let go, or the brakes failed, or something else went wrong? I think it's crazy to not be wearing a helmet.

I was going to make the same comment. No helmet at that speed and that close to the limit is just dumb.

330CIZHP · 08-02-2010, 12:00 AM

Nice video. Very fast around a track. Engine sounds amazing except DCT shift sounds and rev matches. Seems like all dual clutch automated transmissions sound like that including 458 Italia, Audi, Nissan GTR etc.

I know the shift speed is great however, it sounds like an automatic car. The slushy shift sound is a bit too much on the torque converted automatic sound.

This is how an ideal automated gearbox (it is a single clutch, though) should sound during shifts. In my book, the most perfect shift sound complemented by the most perfect engine sound and the shift speeds are still lightning fast:

Funny I never thought I would one day say "it's a Lexus" and "perfection" in the same sentence:

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Trier Germany · 08-02-2010, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by skierman64

I was going to make the same comment. No helmet at that speed and that close to the limit is just dumb.

You need to take a trip to Germany and visit the Nurburgring Nordschleife less than 75% wear helmets. Plus Ascari doesn't look like a dangerous track plus he was driving with zero traffic.

skierman64 · 08-02-2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Trier Germany

You need to take a trip to Germany and visit the Nurburgring Nordschleife less than 75% wear helmets. Plus Ascari doesn't look like a dangerous track plus he was driving with zero traffic.

I have driven the ring, I wore my helmet. Most motorcyclists don't wear a helmet either (unless required by law), but that doesn't mean it's a smart decision.

Any time you're driving at the limit, it's dangerous enough to warrant a helmet IMHO.

tlrid3r · 08-02-2010, 11:36 AM

awesome video great find

Shorestyle031 · 08-02-2010, 12:55 PM

I want a dual clutch

the infamous... · 08-02-2010, 12:56 PM

Pitkis · 08-02-2010, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Shorestyle031

I want a dual clutch

Yes, it's pretty nice. I think this video has nothing very special. You could film almost similar using "normal" M3. The difference between GTS and basic version is hard to see, perhaps body roll is better controlled and engine sounds perhaps slightly better. In live track conditions the difference is claimed to be huge - obviously true.

The most interesting question in GTS is DCT downshifts. Ordinary box is lousy to downshift, software allows you to downshift only when rpm is in really safe area. In video DCT seems to work better. I do some 300-400 laps per year and the most annoying thing in my car is lack of adequate downshift capabilities. For example F430 F1 is much more predictable and easier to run due single clutch installation. Don't know about 458 how it works...

marwan · 08-02-2010, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyd1961

whats that rattle?

i think the guy farted.

trsbmw · 08-02-2010, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by skierman64

I have driven the ring, I wore my helmet. Most motorcyclists don't wear a helmet either (unless required by law), but that doesn't mean it's a smart decision.

Any time you're driving at the limit, it's dangerous enough to warrant a helmet IMHO.

I would wear a helmet as well. But I honestly don't care if this guy wears one or not, and am surprised by all the nannies in this forum. This post wasn't titled "What's wrong with this video?"

What's next? "I can't believe he had the 2-way radio between his legs, what was he thinking???"

SoCali E90 · 08-02-2010, 09:24 PM

man that looks like a lot of fun

CarbonFiberKreations · 08-02-2010, 09:34 PM

skierman64 · 08-02-2010, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by trsbmw

I would wear a helmet as well. But I honestly don't care if this guy wears one or not, and am surprised by all the nannies in this forum. This post wasn't titled "What's wrong with this video?"

What's next? "I can't believe he had the 2-way radio between his legs, what was he thinking???"

If I made the comment to him, then I'd be a nanny. But instead I posted the first thing that came to my mind, which was...I can't believe that guys not wearing a helmet while driviing like that.

Obviously he has some skill too.

RingriderM3 · 08-03-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by trsbmw

I would wear a helmet as well. But I honestly don't care if this guy wears one or not, and am surprised by all the nannies in this forum. This post wasn't titled "What's wrong with this video?"

What's next? "I can't believe he had the 2-way radio between his legs, what was he thinking???"

08-01-2010, 09:32 PM	#28
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08-02-2010, 12:00 AM	#32
330CIZHP Major Drives: BMW 330 CI ZHP Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 1,211 iTrader: (0)	Nice video. Very fast around a track. Engine sounds amazing except DCT shift sounds and rev matches. Seems like all dual clutch automated transmissions sound like that including 458 Italia, Audi, Nissan GTR etc. I know the shift speed is great however, it sounds like an automatic car. The slushy shift sound is a bit too much on the torque converted automatic sound. This is how an ideal automated gearbox (it is a single clutch, though) should sound during shifts. In my book, the most perfect shift sound complemented by the most perfect engine sound and the shift speeds are still lightning fast: Funny I never thought I would one day say "it's a Lexus" and "perfection" in the same sentence: [u2b]<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/hVlI2JUbnDA&hl=en_US&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/hVlI2JUbnDA&hl=en_US&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>[/u2b] [u2b]<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/P8s1YVqc_go&hl=en_US&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/P8s1YVqc_go&hl=en_US&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>[/u2b] __________________ ""A great sounding, responsive, high-revving, naturally aspirated engine is part of the DNA of a thoroughbred sports car. No two ways about it." - Lamborghini on turbocharging Last edited by 330CIZHP; 08-02-2010 at 01:40 AM.

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08-01-2010, 05:30 PM	#23
piloto Captain Drives: 2011 E90 M3 - AW/FR Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 832 iTrader: (0)	That's cool for sure, and I understand it was more of recon lap, but why NO HELMET? That's just crazy. It's not like that track had a lot of runoff. Certainly he showed he has the driving skill, bug what if a tire let go, or the brakes failed, or something else went wrong? I think it's crazy to not be wearing a helmet.

08-01-2010, 07:16 PM	#25
e92_m3 Major Drives: 2009 e92 m3 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 1,474 iTrader: (0)	First of all, that is one great video. So that's where the "woof" sound comes from in a DCT (you can hear it towards the end of the video). I have a 6-speed so I don't know what the "woof" sound is like as stated by DCT owners. The "woof" sound can also be achieved in a 6-speed by rev matching. However IMHO, the "woof" sound created by the DCT seems a lot more well executed because it looks like it does the rev matching on the exact RPM's everytime! You get the perfect "woof" sound whenever you drive a DCT. Hmm, with that said, I should test drive a DCT for myself...

08-01-2010, 07:38 PM	#26
CORTDD Private Drives: E46 M3 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Planet earth, top part. Posts: 78 iTrader: (0)	Took me a while to realize why he kept reaching down toward his wienerschnitzel. Pretty amazing car. The ultimate point and shoot.

08-01-2010, 10:08 PM	#29
ADubM3 First Lieutenant Drives: 08 E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NoVa 703 Posts: 326 iTrader: (0)	Obviously the guy knows what he is doing. As a 6 m/t owner I was really impressed with the DCT tranny. The shifts were quick and smooth. I just drove my friends Lambo Gallardo and the shift shock from every shift when WOT was not as quick and jolting. Anyway nice video, was very interesting.

08-02-2010, 11:36 AM	#35
tlrid3r DISITRB Drives: no car Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Santa Clara, ca Posts: 220 iTrader: (1)	awesome video great find

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