M3 pulls to the right, help!!!

cpiguy · 07-21-2010, 05:39 PM

My car is 6 months old, and since day one it pulls to the right at highway speeds. I've had it aligned twice, swapped the right wheel to the left and the left to the right, and finally replaced all 4 wheels and tires with brand new wheels and tires off another car, and it still pulls to the right. Very annoying to say the least.

Anyone else experience this???

Any idea's on how this is possible???

Thanks

zamm3k · 07-21-2010, 05:43 PM

Have you had the dealer check it? It might be subframe related. I can't really think of anything else. Your alignment shop should have noticed if the subframe was damaged though, they wouldn't have been able to align it. Are you sure it's not just the highway is slightly angled and you're car tends to "pull" to the right?

cpiguy · 07-21-2010, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by zamm3k

Have you had the dealer check it? It might be subframe related. I can't really think of anything else. Your alignment shop should have noticed if the subframe was damaged though, they wouldn't have been able to align it. Are you sure it's not just the highway is slightly angled and you're car tends to "pull" to the right?

The dealer is actually the one's that aligned it twice. They also did all my mods. They're a pretty competent shop.

As far as it being the highway, unfortunately it pulls on any piece of highway, regardless of pitch. Neither my 430 or X5 pull on the very same highways.

cpiguy · 07-21-2010, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bkm32008

Do you have a heavy passenger in the car when it pulls?

It's been pulling since day one no matter what the conditions are.

Scoobe · 07-21-2010, 07:20 PM

Its a long shot, but could be the electrical steering. If it is aligned and still pulling, it might be the electrical steering "dead zone" or center. Could be off.

kitw · 07-21-2010, 07:36 PM

Post the alignment specs? Have a different shop align it?

I know this is stupid since you've replaced the wheels and tires, but tire pressure imbalances can cause a pull.

But wow, that sucks man. I hate pulls

cpiguy · 07-21-2010, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kitw

Post the alignment specs? Have a different shop align it?

I know this is stupid since you've replaced the wheels and tires, but tire pressure imbalances can cause a pull.

But wow, that sucks man. I hate pulls

Exactly what I'm going to do. After 2 alignment you'd think it's got to be right, but you never know. Checked tire pressure and it's good.

Thanks man!

TwoSaints · 07-21-2010, 08:29 PM

Might the fact that it pulls to the right on highways have to do with the convexity of the road? I don't know but i'm picky about pulls too, sorry man!

calintexas · 07-21-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cpiguy

Exactly what I'm going to do. After 2 alignment you'd think it's got to be right, but you never know. Checked tire pressure and it's good.

Thanks man!

All that means is that their machine is consistent. Does sound strange. I've got a tire related pull on one of my cars now, but swapping sides and new tires pretty much takes that out of play for you.

PicassoM · 07-21-2010, 10:57 PM

guess this means you have to drive your Ferrari 430 more... poor you!

kenwelch · 07-22-2010, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Scoobe

Its a long shot, but could be the electrical steering. If it is aligned and still pulling, it might be the electrical steering "dead zone" or center. Could be off.

The 4th generation M3 uses:
"• Servotronic hydraulic steering, M steering gear ratio"

Might also check brake drag and wheel bearings. Also I would have a reliable / recommended alignment shop recheck the alignment looking for a cause of the pull..... Using the alignment readings to determine the cause not just doing a "check the toe and let it go" or worse leaving your car in the lot for a "suntan".

DiRTyDeLuX · 07-22-2010, 01:05 AM

Turn your steering wheel to the left a little.

zamm3k · 07-22-2010, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DiRTyDeLuX

Turn your steering wheel to the left a little.

you're an ass

xxs65xx · 07-22-2010, 01:32 AM

use that warranty man

Leg · 07-22-2010, 06:35 AM

Tell the fat bird in the passenger seat to get out?

Scoobe · 07-22-2010, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kenwelch

The 4th generation M3 uses:
"• Servotronic hydraulic steering, M steering gear ratio"

Might also check brake drag and wheel bearings. Also I would have a reliable / recommended alignment shop recheck the alignment looking for a cause of the pull..... Using the alignment readings to determine the cause not just doing a "check the toe and let it go" or worse leaving your car in the lot for a "suntan".

Doesn't the software similate resistance? If the resistance is calibrated off center, it would feel like a pull but the car being perfectly aligned. And I did say it was a longshot

AMOCHOSTO · 07-22-2010, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DiRTyDeLuX

Turn your steering wheel to the left a little.

He's not flying a helicopter, son.

DiRTyDeLuX · 07-22-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AMOCHOSTO

He's not flying a helicopter, son.

Ahh... you know about translating tendency.

Mr Gunfun · 07-22-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DiRTyDeLuX

Turn your steering wheel to the left a little.

what do you do when a heli pulls to the right on the runway or helipad?

ersin · 07-22-2010, 01:58 PM

Just go drive around Berkley. Everyone there leans to the left so that should compensate.

j/k

It really sounds like an alignment issue. Maybe you should take it to an independent shop to see what they do? Otherwise, if it's not alignment it could be a bigger issue so I hope it's the alignment which is relatively cheap to fix.

Cheers.

DiRTyDeLuX · 07-22-2010, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by siwon66

what do you do when a heli pulls to the right on the runway or helipad?

I whine about it on a blog.

positiveions · 07-22-2010, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by siwon66

what do you do when a heli pulls to the right on the runway or helipad?

you crash!
But OP, did you try to take it to a different dealer?

07-21-2010, 05:39 PM	#1
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zamm3k Bla! Drives: JB E90 M3 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 829 iTrader: (4)	Have you had the dealer check it? It might be subframe related. I can't really think of anything else. Your alignment shop should have noticed if the subframe was damaged though, they wouldn't have been able to align it. Are you sure it's not just the highway is slightly angled and you're car tends to "pull" to the right? __________________ :.-. KW .-. RPi .-. SUPERSPRINT .-. MACHT SCHNELL .-. VOSSEN .-. VREDESTEIN .-.:

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kitw Colonel Drives: 2013 AW E92 M3 ZCP M-DCT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 2,131 iTrader: (13)	Post the alignment specs? Have a different shop align it? I know this is stupid since you've replaced the wheels and tires, but tire pressure imbalances can cause a pull. But wow, that sucks man. I hate pulls

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TwoSaints Second Lieutenant Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Beaumont, Texas Posts: 227 iTrader: (0)	Might the fact that it pulls to the right on highways have to do with the convexity of the road? I don't know but i'm picky about pulls too, sorry man!

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ersin Brigadier General Drives: 08 IB E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,569 iTrader: (1)	Just go drive around Berkley. Everyone there leans to the left so that should compensate. j/k It really sounds like an alignment issue. Maybe you should take it to an independent shop to see what they do? Otherwise, if it's not alignment it could be a bigger issue so I hope it's the alignment which is relatively cheap to fix. Cheers. __________________ I've been assimilated. 6MT/ZPP/18"/PS extended.

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