Harness bar suggestions needed

JC919 · 07-27-2010, 01:30 PM

I have been tracking my M3 at least once a month for the better part of this year and would like to keep up with this trend. I'm strongly considering installing a single Recaro Pole Position and may need a harness bar to secure the Schroth harnesses. I want something that will be acceptable at most DEs and track days, but if possible can be removed so that I can still use the rear seat for my dog or the infrequent rear passenger. Suggestions from fellow track enthusiasts and sponsors would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for looking, JC

Mavrick151 · 07-27-2010, 03:58 PM

I'm in the same boat. A removable harness bar would be great. Anyone have some info?

noxredna · 07-27-2010, 05:23 PM

Was in touch with AE performance to fabricate 5 harness bars.. but they would only do 5 pieces at the minimum to break-even. I couldn't get all 5 people committed and interested so it was a no go...

Also getting busier towards the tail end of summer so I won't be tracking until sept/oct so I didn't follow through with them.

rzm3 · 07-27-2010, 10:05 PM

I've been looking at few options but all of them require at least some removal of rear seats.

AE makes one, which bolts to the rear seat belt and rear seat deck. (white)
Evolve from UK makes one, which bolts to the rear bracket holes. (red)
The harness bar on M3 GTS seems to bolt to the rear folding seat mounts and the rear seat deck. (orange)

None are easy to remove. Perhaps try the buckets with regular seat belts first? I've been doing some karting lately and they don't have any seat belts, but the bucket seat alone held me in pretty well.

Martin_D · 07-28-2010, 01:00 PM

After speaking with AE a good deal, I am going with that roll bar setup. It works very well for them at the track and only requires rear seats to be removed. You will not need to remove the rear panels. Also can be painted any color you desire if that makes you any happier

Taken from the AE Blog:

"Price- $1,899.00 (powder coating included)

- Shipping available (oversized)

- Available in Standard Satin Black finish, Alpine White, or Silver powder coat (optional color matching to your car available, ask for pricing.)"

Here are a few more photos:

JC919 · 07-28-2010, 02:52 PM

^Thanks for the info, but I want to keep the rear seats in for now. I'm looking to get a GT3 in a couple years and that will have a full cage.

Martin_D · 07-28-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JC919

^Thanks for the info, but I want to keep the rear seats in for now. I'm looking to get a GT3 in a couple years and that will have a full cage.

I can play that game! Mine is getting one next week

rzm3 · 07-29-2010, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC919

^Thanks for the info, but I want to keep the rear seats in for now. I'm looking to get a GT3 in a couple years and that will have a full cage.

What surface finish are you considering?

saeedg48 · 07-29-2010, 12:43 AM

I want your interior!

Martin_D · 07-29-2010, 09:27 AM

Autopower also has a solution:

I am trying to track down the thread (not of the Green-Hell in the photo below) but someone else installed this piece and kept the rear seats. They did however remove the rear panel to bolt in...

JC919 · 07-29-2010, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin_D

I can play that game! Mine is getting one next week

Nice, what cage are you going with? RSS offers a couple great ones that are actually fairly easy to install. Ran with a 7.2 GT3 at my local track last weekend, and damn do they sound good. Do to the cost issue, I'm considering 7.1s a little more. Would like to find a good 7.1 RS if the prices drop a bit.

Martin_D · 07-29-2010, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC919

Nice, what cage are you going with? RSS offers a couple great ones that are actually fairly easy to install. Ran with a 7.2 GT3 at my local track last weekend, and damn do they sound good. Do to the cost issue, I'm considering 7.1s a little more. Would like to find a good 7.1 RS if the prices drop a bit.

Yes, the car is being sent to Champion to get a lot of work done...this weekend they are picking it up

I am indeed doing the RSS setup! I almost went with a 7.1 RS but it is hard to find a *cherry* one!

As far as harness bars for the M3 I have not seen any company that offers a simple solution that bolts in without removing rear items - who knows!

Jimmer · 08-14-2010, 11:53 PM

To the OP I'm with you. I'd love to get a 4/5 point harness in my car (I lap almost every week) and slide around quite a bit. I don't want to change seats either as I like my OEM seats and also don't want to lose the heaters.

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07-27-2010, 01:30 PM	#1
JC919 Lieutenant Colonel 41 Rep 1,804 Posts Drives: CSL Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland iTrader: (0)	Harness bar suggestions needed I have been tracking my M3 at least once a month for the better part of this year and would like to keep up with this trend. I'm strongly considering installing a single Recaro Pole Position and may need a harness bar to secure the Schroth harnesses. I want something that will be acceptable at most DEs and track days, but if possible can be removed so that I can still use the rear seat for my dog or the infrequent rear passenger. Suggestions from fellow track enthusiasts and sponsors would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for looking, JC __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] 2007 GT3 Clubsport w/CGT buckets in Scotland 2003 CSL, SG, Alcon BBK SOLD 2002 M5, SSII/Blk and bone stock. In storage back home in TX 2008 M3, AW/Blk 6MT, lots of track stuff SOLD Last edited by JC919; 07-27-2010 at 05:12 PM.
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Mavrick151 First Lieutenant 11 Rep 306 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: CA iTrader: (1)	I'm in the same boat. A removable harness bar would be great. Anyone have some info?
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noxredna Captain 42 Rep 671 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW M3 Coupe, 2012 BMW M5 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Philadelphia & Singapore iTrader: (0)	Was in touch with AE performance to fabricate 5 harness bars.. but they would only do 5 pieces at the minimum to break-even. I couldn't get all 5 people committed and interested so it was a no go... Also getting busier towards the tail end of summer so I won't be tracking until sept/oct so I didn't follow through with them.
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rzm3 Moderator 416 Rep 4,705 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (17)	I've been looking at few options but all of them require at least some removal of rear seats. AE makes one, which bolts to the rear seat belt and rear seat deck. (white) Evolve from UK makes one, which bolts to the rear bracket holes. (red) The harness bar on M3 GTS seems to bolt to the rear folding seat mounts and the rear seat deck. (orange) None are easy to remove. Perhaps try the buckets with regular seat belts first? I've been doing some karting lately and they don't have any seat belts, but the bucket seat alone held me in pretty well. Attached Images
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Martin_D Lieutenant Colonel 90 Rep 1,789 Posts Drives: Ford Super Duty Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (34)	After speaking with AE a good deal, I am going with that roll bar setup. It works very well for them at the track and only requires rear seats to be removed. You will not need to remove the rear panels. Also can be painted any color you desire if that makes you any happier Taken from the AE Blog: "Price- $1,899.00 (powder coating included) - Shipping available (oversized) - Available in Standard Satin Black finish, Alpine White, or Silver powder coat (optional color matching to your car available, ask for pricing.)" Here are a few more photos:
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JC919 Lieutenant Colonel 41 Rep 1,804 Posts Drives: CSL Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland iTrader: (0)	^Thanks for the info, but I want to keep the rear seats in for now. I'm looking to get a GT3 in a couple years and that will have a full cage. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] 2007 GT3 Clubsport w/CGT buckets in Scotland 2003 CSL, SG, Alcon BBK SOLD 2002 M5, SSII/Blk and bone stock. In storage back home in TX 2008 M3, AW/Blk 6MT, lots of track stuff SOLD
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Martin_D Lieutenant Colonel 90 Rep 1,789 Posts Drives: Ford Super Duty Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (34)	Autopower also has a solution: I am trying to track down the thread (not of the Green-Hell in the photo below) but someone else installed this piece and kept the rear seats. They did however remove the rear panel to bolt in...
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Jimmer Private First Class 4 Rep 160 Posts Drives: 2014 M235i with MPE Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada iTrader: (0)	To the OP I'm with you. I'd love to get a 4/5 point harness in my car (I lap almost every week) and slide around quite a bit. I don't want to change seats either as I like my OEM seats and also don't want to lose the heaters. I've found nothing.... __________________ Certified High Performance Driving Instructor - BMW of North America, Porsche Club of America / Chief In-Vehicle Instructor - Fleet Safety International Gone but not forgotten: 2008 E92 M3; Eisenmann Race Exhaust / Dinan 3.62 Limited Slip Differential / Dinan Software / Dinan High-Flow Intake / Dinan Camber Plates / Dinan Lowering Springs / Dinan Sway-Bars
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