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      04-29-2010, 02:02 PM   #1
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People with higher IQs are less likely to believe in God

I personally dont believe in anything but science. I was wondering how many here were atheist too
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There are many scientists who acknowledge that at this point it is impossible to rule out the existence of a "god."

I'm simply agnostic
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People who tend to believe in science find more reasons to disprove that there is a higher power through those methods, so they don't believe.
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I'm not falling for it. If I vote yes, you're just going to call me stupid.

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why say something you can't see, hear, feel, or taste is responsible for the advancements humans have made with technology?
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why say something you can't see, hear, feel, or taste is responsible for the advancements humans have made with technology?

It seems we are on the same page
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      04-29-2010, 02:46 PM   #7
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why say something you can't see, hear, feel, or taste is responsible for the advancements humans have made with technology?




Exactly. Things you can't see, hear, feel or taste do not exist.


Like history.
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      04-29-2010, 02:50 PM   #8
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...Like history....
...or society, or culture, or evolution, or emotions, or ideas, or the mind, or...

Yeah, you get it.
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I can understand why people don't believe in a god. But why go out of your way to belittle people who do believe? What does that accomplish?
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...or society, or culture, or evolution, or emotions, or ideas, or the mind, or...

Yeah, you get it.


I wasn't making a statement against or for atheism, just a statement against that statement


By that logic, our warranty is non-existent too...now that's scary!
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      04-29-2010, 03:03 PM   #11
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This is pretty much where I'm coming from:

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I can understand why people don't believe in a god. But why go out of your way to belittle people who do believe? What does that accomplish?



I think it helps with personal insecurities. Kind of like how so many people go out of their way to bash drivers of other car brands etc...that and it's very easy to insult someone from behind a computer screen. I wonder what percentage of forum members here are actually gigantic assholes in real life as well...
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There are many scientists who acknowledge that at this point it is impossible to rule out the existence of a "god."

I'm simply agnostic
At last we've found some common ground. I would tend to believe in a sort of pantheism or spinozism however.
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I think a disbelief in God is a measure of low IQ. So if you don't believe in God changes are your IQ is lower than normal. Get it...

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why say something you can't see, hear, feel, or taste is responsible for the advancements humans have made with technology?
Nobody said that 'god' must by necessity be a personal god.
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People who tend to believe in science find more reasons to disprove that there is a higher power through those methods, so they don't believe.
Of course some of them realize that "God" can't be disproven, so they don't bother to try.


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What I have done is to show that it is possible for the way the universe began to be determined by the laws of science. In that case, it would not be necessary to appeal to God to decide how the universe began. This doesn't prove that there is no God, only that God is not necessary.

-- Stephen Hawking, Der Spiegel (17 October 1988)
I subscribe to this point of view. As I previously mentioned, I tend to lean toward a pantheistic view. I don't subscribe to organized religion, but recognize it has both it's positive and negative points. In the end, I'm not sure whether the good or the bad carry more weight.
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This is pretty much where I'm coming from:
Agreed.
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I can understand why people don't believe in a god. But why go out of your way to belittle people who do believe? What does that accomplish?
It goes both ways. The crazy bible humpers belittle people who do not believe the same way some of the people who don't believe in god belittle people who do believe. I think it goes back to the extremists generalizing the majority.

I am personally agnostic.
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If you don't believe something you will believe anything!

Someone, anyone, PROVE to me that God doesn't exist!
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Someone, anyone, PROVE to me that God doesn't exist!
That would constitute argumentum ad ignorantiam, as it's impossible by definition. Science and belief in a god are not mutually exclusive. This false dichotomy is a trap that people use on both sides of the argument, both atheists and religious zealots, who try to discredit religion or scientific method, respectively.

Science doesn't concern itself with the notion of a god. It can't disprove there is a god, for to attempt to do so would be to succumb to logical fallacy, nor can religious zealots prove that there is a god, thus the argument is really quite pointless.
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If you don't believe something you will believe anything!

Someone, anyone, PROVE to me that God doesn't exist!

So you can prove that God does exist...
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If you don't believe something you will believe anything!

Someone, anyone, PROVE to me that God doesn't exist!
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So you can prove that God does exist...
Regarding my last post...


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