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      06-06-2010, 11:18 AM   #1
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It would've been more interesting with staggered starts like in these vids (
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      06-06-2010, 11:29 AM   #2
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      06-06-2010, 11:39 AM   #3
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Wow that was pretty cool. I wish I knew what they were saying.
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      06-06-2010, 12:27 PM   #5
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Gee, what a shocking outcome. Looks like Jarama? Pretty twisty place. Almost 7 sec delta over only two miles, sounds about right. Driver #2 clearly better in the F BMW.
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      06-06-2010, 12:39 PM   #7
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What color M3 is that?
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      06-06-2010, 12:50 PM   #8
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Dakar Yellow
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      06-06-2010, 12:51 PM   #9
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intersting. think its dakar?
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Did anyone else notice that one of the tailights on the M3 were out? lol. Cool video though!
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Dakar Yellow
You sure it's Dakar? Looks a lot brighter. I am not a big fan of Dakar, but this one looks great!
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Did anyone else notice that one of the tailights on the M3 were out? lol. Cool video though!
It must have had the "right brake lamp malfunction error."
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Did anyone else notice that one of the tailights on the M3 were out? lol. Cool video though!
You must be seeing things, they both work fine.
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      06-06-2010, 03:23 PM   #15
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      06-06-2010, 04:05 PM   #16
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Gee, what a shocking outcome. Looks like Jarama? Pretty twisty place. Almost 7 sec delta over only two miles, sounds about right. Driver #2 clearly better in the F BMW.
Shocking outcome? Not meaning to be disrespectful, but you are clueless partner... I'm shocked it is not a bigger gap, the tires alone could produce such a big difference on the track times, let alone the weight difference...
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Am I seeing this correct? The M3 has a greater straight line speed by a way and it is on cornering and breaking that the F1 car wins? Or was the F1 racer fooling around on the straight?
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Mate, the formula weights around 450kg. Do you have any idea what it's like cornering/breaking in such a car?

Even accelerating, we have 140bhp for 450kg... Do the maths for the power to weight ratio. +- 3.2 kg per hp for the formula, and 3.75 for the M3 (I don't know the exact weight and didn't check it, just did the maths with 1500kg).
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      06-06-2010, 04:21 PM   #19
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he probably would've been faster if he had the CF roof
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      06-06-2010, 04:50 PM   #20
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Shocking outcome? Not meaning to be disrespectful, but you are clueless partner... I'm shocked it is not a bigger gap, the tires alone could produce such a big difference on the track times, let alone the weight difference...
I was being sarcastic, I'm not clueless ace. I have quite a bit of single seater experience. Around such a short track, that seems to be about what I would have expected.
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I've driven a formula car similar to this... with 170hp... 30hp more than formula BMW's have, and they both weigh in at about 1000lbs. The one I drove has performance similar to a Corvette ZR1, so it's really no surprise the M3 got dusted, especially in the turns.
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The video is interesting, but the comparison it suggests is tenuous. Much as I like M3, the car is not in the same class as BMW-Sauber F1.09, and the F1.09 is not in the same class as other F1 cars. In the critical season of 2009, BMW-Sauber F1.09 was unsuccessful compared to Brawn-Mercedes, RBR-Renault, or McLaren-Mercedes - BMW-Sauber finished 6th overall. Many people who follow F1 racing thought that the 6th position was a fair achievement for a company who entered into formula racing in 2006. Obviously not all thought so - BMW AG decided to forgo formula racing after 2009, so the video is just an attempt to generate a bit of joy. Formula racing is an extreme sport, and speed is harder to make than joy.

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