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| 05-15-2010, 02:10 AM | #1 |
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▀▄ eas - 2011 LCI Taillight Retrofit Overview - Q&A
The release of the 2011 LCI (Life Cycle Impulse) introduced some minor improvements to the vehicle. On the exterior side, most noticeably with the taillights. This DIY will give a quick overview for those to update their lighting to update the rear of their 07-10 3-series Coupe or Convertible to appear like the 2011 models.
An LCI Upgrade consists of inner/Outer taillamps, trunk lamps (4 total) and Plug and Play (PnP) harnesses. ![]() Our example will be performed on a 2010 M3 Convertible, which is the last production year of the Pre-LCI lamps: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() On pre-LCI vehicles (>2011), there are a series of "checks" that are performed when the ignition is turned on. Once of these processes is called "BulbCheck", which sends small voltage pulses to the various exterior lamps of the vehicle and expects a load on the circuit - which a stock halogen bulb would give. The voltage used is very small, not enough to light up the bulb - so it's never seen. LEDs require very little voltage to operate, and can pick up these pulses - which is the "flickering" seen when the ignition is activated: BulbCheck in action. This also results in errors on the instrument cluster/iDrive screen since the vehicle thinks the bulbs are non-functional. Coding will tell the vehicle (4 different control modules) that LED lamps have been retrofitted and that BulbCheck isn't required in those specific fields any longer, allowing the vehicle to operate like normal. Here's a quick video of the LCI taillamps in action to show the differences before coding and after coding is performed: The LCI Taillamps are 100% functional after installation as seen in the component test, I want to make sure everyone is clear that the vehicle is not unsafe to drive if the end user has not yet had a chance to get the vehicle coded. Do keep in mind that coding is required for a proper installation and targets correcting the bulb-out indicators on the instrument cluster/iDrive as well as pre-ignition flickering upon startup. This will also ensure that no future errors are present if the vehicle should ever visit the dealer for other service updates or maintenance work. The following modules are coded: Car Access System (CAS) Junction Box Electronics (JBE) Footwell Module (FRM) Instrument Cluster BulbCheck is removed for only the lamps that were replaced by LEDs, all other monitoring systems are kept in place. A LOT of work has gone into making sure this was performed correctly - even providing log sessions of 16 different vehicles, including making a trip to the dealership to scan vehicles with pre-equipped LCI builds in log comparisons. Coding will also allow the vehicle to pass all verification and safety checks, as well as not provide any issues if the vehicle is ever brought in for service - since we are using original BMW parts and proper coding has taken place, rather than attempting to "band-aid" the situation with add-on resistors (which are dangerous). Here are some shots of the FRM2/FRM3 location underneath the driver's side footwell: ![]() You do not need to upgrade to FRM3 for LCI Coding!For those looking to inspect what type of FRM they have, the part label will have either FRM2 or FRM3 displayed, we have the ability to code either FRM2 or FRM3 modules: ![]() Thanks for reading, feel free to respond with any questions - with the intention of keeping this a technical-specific thread.
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| 05-15-2010, 02:24 AM | #3 |
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You sir, have one awesome M3. About to get even better from what we talked about today.
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| 05-15-2010, 02:33 AM | #4 |
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man u guys rock! this upgrade is mandatory!!
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| 05-15-2010, 03:07 AM | #7 |
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Scared money don't make money.
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Looks great Tom
Powerbeast, your car is looking really clean....HRE, Brembo, Arkym, .
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| 05-15-2010, 06:44 AM | #8 |
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Those look great! Does the pre-LCI harness just plug into the new lights or is there an adapter that goes between the factory plug and the new taillight? Is there a place to get the coding done in DFW Texas?
Great work!
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| 05-15-2010, 09:35 AM | #10 |
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Bad Cop No Donut!
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OK so the new e90's also have these taillights. How come there is no retrofit for pre-LCI e90's?
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| 05-15-2010, 12:51 PM | #11 | ||||
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Correct - as long as they have a complete understanding of CIP programming, which most autologic shops do. Quote:
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Good news: No PnP harness is required Bad news: A post-LCI trunk is also needed due to the new shape of the taillamps. Coding is still required for proper operation.
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| 05-15-2010, 08:20 PM | #13 |
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Why didnt you guys mention the dash code faults before. I bought the PNP harness from you and the tail lights from my dealer now I read this and there is no local autologic shops. Now what am i meant to do?
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| 05-15-2010, 08:25 PM | #14 | |
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It's actually been mentioned quite a few times while development was being performed - each step and results were explained along the way. Please PM me your full name so I can locate a technician in your area and get you coded up.
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| 05-15-2010, 08:31 PM | #15 |
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I sent you three PM's yesterday and told me that you knew of no techs in Orlando and to check the autologic website myself. Unless I am mistaken I only read that there would be bulb check flickering. I never read anything about dash faults.
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| 05-15-2010, 08:51 PM | #16 | |
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Have you called autologic to see if there is a technician in your area that can assist?
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| 05-15-2010, 09:02 PM | #17 |
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I dont read e90post since i have an E92. The post you posted on M3Post was this - http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=382162 and on this you edited post #1 to read "Edit: Coding from an independent with an Autologic programmer will be required to fully remove disable BulbCheck. Coding has been completed, let me know if you need in-house coding from us or would like us to direct you to a local. Lighting assemblies and PnP harness are not returnable."
This doesnt mention faults on the dash, only that we would have flickering. And you edited that the PNP and lights are not returnable after this post was written. |
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| 05-15-2010, 09:09 PM | #18 |
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So these can't be coded at the dealer?
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| 05-15-2010, 09:13 PM | #19 | |
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I also want to touch on your last statement, since it implies we are dishonest. We never "edited" a page after your purchase was made - this was standard policy from the beginning on this item. However as stated before: you still require coding for proper operation of the lamps - this is a move you need to make in order to get the situation resolved. If your technician should have questions prior to coding - I am here to help. If you should have any further questions or concerns or feel the need to vent - please PM or email me directly. Please understand I am on your side and do not have an agenda to ruin your weekend. BMW dealers do not have access to the proper procedures to make this work. This may change with the release of the BlackLines if LED-based.
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| 05-16-2010, 11:49 AM | #21 |
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Tom,
Could you please post some images of the wiring harness piece that you have made? Great product! Thanks!
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| 05-16-2010, 12:47 PM | #22 | |
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chris
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i would like to see the how the wiring harness looks like and where you placed it.
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