Tragic crash: Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera - Page 2

E46M54325Ci · 05-10-2010, 12:56 PM

anyone who's into cars enough to have ever seen top gear knows that even very good drivers can lose control of an AWD supercar, blame should be on the driver

MediaArtist · 05-10-2010, 01:04 PM

Not everyone should own a sports car.

gonzo · 05-10-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MediaArtist

Not everyone should own a sports car.

I like to think I am a darn good driver but sometimes I wonder why do I think so much about what is next.

Throw down and get a Lambo? Be smart and look for a great deal on a 997 TT?

Then I have days where I ask myself "Why on Earth do you need anything in regards to a fast car"? It is something to get you from A to B and the odds of damage increase with the higher hp cars.

What if there were a check list on our death beds regarding what we did with our lives and better yet what we did for others. I doubt "He had a nice car" would be listed.

I am now jumping down from this soap box.

Black Stallon · 05-10-2010, 01:29 PM

I'll be different an blame Lamborghini for having a car so prone to fire hazards and I also blame the almighty for letting it rain that day. Hollaaa

Eddy@ApexRaceParts · 05-10-2010, 01:35 PM

you yourself said the guy was an employee. If he gets to take cars out for rides just like that then lets assume he's been given some level of trust and hedoesn't think AWD is some kind of magic, and instead assume that he thought his wreckless driving would make the women want to touch his pee pee

Georgeair · 05-10-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Levi

I'll try to explain it in ENGLISH:

It is 99 % drivers fault. But he was decieved, as he thought nothing could happen in AWD sportcar.

Let me explain the rebuttals in ENGLISH:

If he actually thought that, he is a complete and total moronic idiot.

What utter bullshit.

MediaArtist · 05-10-2010, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gonzo

I like to think I am a darn good driver but sometimes I wonder why do I think so much about what is next.

Throw down and get a Lambo? Be smart and look for a great deal on a 997 TT?

Then I have days where I ask myself "Why on Earth do you need anything in regards to a fast car"? It is something to get you from A to B and the odds of damage increase with the higher hp cars.

What if there were a check list on our death beds regarding what we did with our lives and better yet what we did for others. I doubt "He had a nice car" would be listed.

I am now jumping down from this soap box.

I think it's very healthy for you to be thinking about those type of things actually.

ChrisV · 05-10-2010, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Levi

Ok I failed. I just feel concerned because it could also happen to me with my RWD. It could also happen to you when you got your M3. It is so exciting.
Sad

You failed because you are placing the blame in the wrong place. And you failed because you actually think the blame should be anywhere but on the driver. You failed because your logic is stupid.

ragingclue · 05-10-2010, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisV

You failed because you are placing the blame in the wrong place. And you failed because you actually think the blame should be anywhere but on the driver. You failed because your logic is stupid.

Maginot Logic.

Levi · 05-10-2010, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ragingclue

Maginot Logic.

I live in France but I am not french.

997GT3 · 05-10-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Levi

I'll try to explain it in ENGLISH:

It is 99 % drivers fault. But he was decieved, as he thought nothing could happen in AWD sportcar.

You need to backtrack on this argument.
I have never heard anyone say an AWD sports car would keep an inexperienced driver safe when they are driving unsafely.
I have a GT-R and it will bite me in the ass if I'm not careful.
I would actually make a counter argument that AWD cars are a little trickier to drive because it's hard to tell where their edge is.

lyndon_h · 05-10-2010, 04:48 PM

since the driver was an employee of VAG, you could blame him and VAG at the same time. I win. Yay for me. But seriously, who drives crazy in a supercar in the wet??? How stupid.

JayKay335i · 05-10-2010, 06:02 PM

You my friend are part of the problem, not the cure.

Hawkeye · 05-11-2010, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by paintpro21

he thought his wreckless driving would make the women want to touch his pee pee

This is what I think as well...

ptack · 05-11-2010, 12:05 PM

You can blame the idiot driver for his immediate and final actions, but if he was an employee driving the car on company time, you also have to blame VAG for letting him have the keys. The company can't control the stupidity of owners after they buy a Lambo from them, but they can and should control how the car is used while they possess it. It sounds like that car was a loaded gun VAG left laying around.

brizzom · 05-11-2010, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Levi

An employee of Lamborghini went for a test drive, to show to his passenger, a 28 year old woman, the new Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera. The roads were wet and he lost control of the car. He ended up in a pole and the car took fire. The driver died at once and the female passenger some time later, she could not survive the injuries. It happened in Wuppertal (Germany).

This is very sad, and what is even more sad is that I use this tragedy as a proof.
I put the fault of this accident not on the driver but on some people on this Forum and on VAG. Guess yourself why.

RWD is a preference but AWD is not an argument unless. Yet some make it one.
This is what happens when people believe in lie, that they can be race drivers by having an AWD sportcar (GT-R, 911 Turbo, R8, Gallardo).

Security does not come from AWD but from the driver.

uhhh sorry??

Year's_End · 05-11-2010, 09:23 PM

Unless you're a dipshit, it's pretty hard to wreck an AWD car. Either you're entering a corner too fast, or you fuck up a transition bad enough to the point that the weight is shifting every which way. Or you go airborne, like how this went, I guess.

CarbonFiberKreations · 05-11-2010, 09:58 PM

WOW!!

05-10-2010, 01:04 PM	#24
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Black Stallon Quemando Carretera Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 62 iTrader: (0)	I'll be different an blame Lamborghini for having a car so prone to fire hazards and I also blame the almighty for letting it rain that day. Hollaaa __________________

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ptack Brigadier General Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 4,065 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 135i [3.00]	You can blame the idiot driver for his immediate and final actions, but if he was an employee driving the car on company time, you also have to blame VAG for letting him have the keys. The company can't control the stupidity of owners after they buy a Lambo from them, but they can and should control how the car is used while they possess it. It sounds like that car was a loaded gun VAG left laying around. __________________ 135i, SGM, Coral, Sport Package, Auto, Premium Hifi, USB/ipod, Forgestar F14s, PPK Stage II

05-11-2010, 09:23 PM	#39
Year's_End Cpt. Buzzkill Drives: '08 E92 335i Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: St. Pete, FL Posts: 11,783 iTrader: (0)	Unless you're a dipshit, it's pretty hard to wreck an AWD car. Either you're entering a corner too fast, or you fuck up a transition bad enough to the point that the weight is shifting every which way. Or you go airborne, like how this went, I guess. __________________ _.[In a love/hate relationship with...] E92 335i: Space Grey\|Coral Red\|Aluminum Trim _________VMR V710s\|M-Sport Rear Bumper & Rockers\|M3 Spoiler\|Golf-T__________Moved on to the misc. Later, brahs.

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E46M54325Ci Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2009 335i coupe Join Date: May 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,534 iTrader: (4)	anyone who's into cars enough to have ever seen top gear knows that even very good drivers can lose control of an AWD supercar, blame should be on the driver

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Eddy@ApexRaceParts BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: E30 M3, E34 540i/6, Cooper S Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,499 iTrader: (3)	you yourself said the guy was an employee. If he gets to take cars out for rides just like that then lets assume he's been given some level of trust and hedoesn't think AWD is some kind of magic, and instead assume that he thought his wreckless driving would make the women want to touch his pee pee

05-10-2010, 04:48 PM	#34
lyndon_h Lieutenant Colonel Drives: e90 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Madagascar Posts: 1,923 iTrader: (2)	since the driver was an employee of VAG, you could blame him and VAG at the same time. I win. Yay for me. But seriously, who drives crazy in a supercar in the wet??? How stupid.

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JayKay335i Banned Drives: ///M323 DCT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North Dakota; its best DUHHHHHH Posts: 5,049 iTrader: (1)	You my friend are part of the problem, not the cure.

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