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      05-11-2010, 05:32 PM   #45
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I love it how the bimmerpost thing never mentions the 1/4 mile time just the trap speed.
Why is actual 1/4 mile time so important if so much of it depends on driver skill? The trap speed here is more indicative of the power and speed of the car than how great of a launch the driver was able to get. 60' @ 2.06 is obviously not the best launch but what's impressive here is the trap speed. Why would I bother writing about something average (60' time) on the homepage.
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that is 1 SLOW m3 nice numbers drew, i talked to sammy, he said he talked to you right after & you couldn't get traction...which is what i assumed when i heard your trap speed but still not a bad day on the 1/4 mile
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      05-11-2010, 06:18 PM   #47
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Why is actual 1/4 mile time so important if so much of it depends on driver skill? The trap speed here is more indicative of the power and speed of the car than how great of a launch the driver was able to get. 60' @ 2.06 is obviously not the best launch but what's impressive here is the trap speed. Why would I bother writing about something average (60' time) on the homepage.
exactly, 1/4 time is nice, but doesn't mean jack. Trap speed tells the entire story of what a car is capable.
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I keep seeing people state that 1/4 mile time is skill. That's just not the case with this type of car and a DCT transmission.

I have drag raced for 20 years and the only skill evolved is being able to keep your cool and to cut a good light (unless you have a manual transmission). The DCT at Drew's power level is just not capable of achieving an amazing 60' time (it's great for 60-130 runs though ). I'm sure Drew would love to bolt some slicks on the back, do his burnout, and floor it on the last yellow but he does not want to be the second DCT transmission build up.

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Very nice Drew. That's a really high trap speed! I wonder the trap would be if you dipped in the 10's? Congrats either way
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Nice runs !! That's more like it, I was just reading the new edition of roundel where they test a Gintani Supercharged M3 and they say it runs the quarter in 12.3 !!!
I was like WTF? Your numbers make way more sense for a car with this much power... I am not sure what is wrong with the car featured in Roundel or maybe the owner has no clue what he is doing?? He did say it was on stock tires, but still... i have seen better than 12.3 from 335 with bolt ons...
Appreciate the props! 1/4 mile ET's are almost solely based on the launch, while I've seen worse than 2.06, lol, as Jason said it's not a good one. However last time I checked the 11.45 is a WR as far as I know with documented E9X M3's. If I had achieved a 1.81 60' as I did when NA, 10's would have been a strong possibility, but I agree that the trap does speak volumes, especially with 79 degree temps and a 1200' DA.

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I keep seeing people state that 1/4 mile time is skill. That's just not the case with this type of car and a DCT transmission.

I have drag raced for 20 years and the only skill evolved is being able to keep your cool and to cut a good light (unless you have a manual transmission). The DCT at Drew's power level is just not capable of achieving an amazing 60' time (it's great for 60-130 runs though ). I'm sure Drew would love to bolt some slicks on the back, do his burnout, and floor it on the last yellow but he does not want to be the second DCT transmission build up.

Great MPH Drew!
Thanks bud, I understand what you are saying and you make a good point, but I think driving the DCT takes some skill too, but you're right no where near what a MT does. BTW what did you managed ET wise in your runs? I know the conditions were not good and you had to baby it off the line as I did.
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Very nice Drew. That's a really high trap speed! I wonder the trap would be if you dipped in the 10's? Congrats either way
There is enough trap there for a 10 second run! Just need to get at least a 1.8 60', cooler temps, would help as well. That GT-R I ran even with is a ten second car, but he can launch all day long with probably a 1.6s 60'.
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Drew, congrats on making the front page of Bimmerpost.com.
Thanks Robert.
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some serious times right there... a bit weak on the tq. #'s tho?
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Nice job, looks like you'll have no problem beating the N54 trap record with your car.
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I keep seeing people state that 1/4 mile time is skill. That's just not the case with this type of car and a DCT transmission.

I have drag raced for 20 years and the only skill evolved is being able to keep your cool and to cut a good light (unless you have a manual transmission). The DCT at Drew's power level is just not capable of achieving an amazing 60' time (it's great for 60-130 runs though ). I'm sure Drew would love to bolt some slicks on the back, do his burnout, and floor it on the last yellow but he does not want to be the second DCT transmission build up.

Great MPH Drew!
You have to throw some negative comments then top it off with a positive comment? Would it hurt you to just leave a positive comment and go on your way?

Please go to the drag strip and post some time slips, I'd love to see what a boosted m3 and the bottle would do.

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You have to throw some negative comments then top it off with a positive comment? Would it hurt you to just leave a positive comment and go on your way?

Please go to the drag strip and post some time slips, I'd love to see what a boosted m3 and the bottle would do.

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I was simply disagreeing with other people who think in order to achieve a good ET requires some special drag racing skill. The car's job is to get a good ET, while it's the racers job get a good light.

So don't be so up tight...tightie. My comment was not meant to be negative. I think Drew's ET is really good knowing what he has to work with, because like I've already said it's hard to get a good 60' time at that power level with the DCT transmisson. I still like the MPH better though.
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I was simply disagreeing with other people who think in order to achieve a good ET requires some special drag racing skill. The car's job is to get a good ET, while it's the racers job get a good light.

So don't be so up tight...tightie. My comment was not meant to be negative. I think Drew's ET is really good knowing what he has to work with, because like I've already said it's hard to get a good 60' time at that power level with the DCT transmisson. I still like the MPH better though.
No worries, I'm not up tight about it Didn't look at it from your perspective, thanks for explaining.

I just think he deserves more credit.. He's done some good work..

But please, get to a drag strip.. You seem like a cool guy from what you post! That 60-130 time is fast! I'd love to see what you put down.
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it is very hard to get a good E.T. with the SC and DCT combo. I wasnt pushing nearly as much power as drew and couldnt get a decent E.T. at all. Had other drivers try as well. Either bogs down or spins the drags. And seems that cars that trap 130+ can make it into the 10's with proper grip
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once again, very nice. you always seem to break these records!
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No worries, I'm not up tight about it
But please, get to a drag strip.. You seem like a cool guy from what you post! That 60-130 time is fast! I'd love to see what you put down.
I'm saving up for some rear wheels and drag radials, so once I get those I plan on going. I will probably wait until the fall though, it's getting nice and warm here in Georgia.

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it is very hard to get a good E.T. with the SC and DCT combo. I wasnt pushing nearly as much power as drew and couldnt get a decent E.T. at all. Had other drivers try as well. Either bogs down or spins the drags. And seems that cars that trap 130+ can make it into the 10's with proper grip
Yes sir... The DCT clutch is either engaged or not. You can't slip the clutch like you can in the 6 speed.

My first sports car was a 1993 Camaro, first year of the LT1 engine. I went 10.50 @ 130mph, so anybody that has the power to run 125 or faster can run 10s if they can get a good 60' time.
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You mention getting a good light, but I was under the impression that most of these open test and tune days at the local drag strips don't factor in r/t in the ET. I thought the timing started once the wheels broke the beam, not on the green.
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some serious times right there... a bit weak on the tq. #'s tho?
I wondered how long it would take for a 135/335 owner to get in here and post their classic torque argument. Let me know when you know what a flat torque curve and a linear power band are. As to my statement about the 1/4 mile time not being mentioned on the front page. I don't care about MPH at the drag strip. Drag races aren't won on MPH. MPH is nice to brag about and show off all your uber horsepower, but 1/4 mile times and winning races are what matters. They show that your whole car is working including your suspension/tires to maximize all that power off the line. Get back out there and set some good 60 foot times and get in the 10s. Also your reaction time is never factored into your elapsed time at the drag strip. It only matters when doing bracket or heads up racing.
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