BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > E90/E92 M3 Technical Topics > Coding / ConnectedDrive / Audio-Video / Electronics / Bluetooth / I-Drive & Nav
 
Evolve Automotive
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      05-07-2010, 11:51 AM   #1
808MGuy
Colonel
49

 
808MGuy's Avatar
 
Drives: 2009 E90 M3
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Oahu, Hawaii


Posts: 2,287
iTrader: (3)

Is iDrive really that bad?

Last weekend I did some work on a 2008 Corvette. I replaced the factory head unit with a Kenwood Nav unit. As I was playing with it a little, I noticed that in terms of ease of use and intuitive layout, iDrive is so much better. Trying to teach my dad how to use iDrive was a 5 min conversation. After about a week of using the Kenwood, he's still confused. One thing the Kenwood does have over iDrive is that the Garmin based nav kick a$$. There's nothing that even comes close to it.

Bottom line, iDrive is not the pill that people used to constantly complain about in BMWs. It does have a slight learning curve but once you've figured it out (which shouldn't take that long) you'll start to see the genius in it.
__________________
09 E90 M3 - Interlagos Blue / Black Novillo / Sycamore Anthracite / Eibach / HRE

Appreciate 0
      05-07-2010, 01:09 PM   #2
ersin
Brigadier General
United_States
42

 
ersin's Avatar
 
Drives: 08 IB E92 M3
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Maryland


Posts: 4,068
iTrader: (1)

It's a lot better now than it has been in the past. I recall playing with it at the dealer when it first came out on the 7 series. Slow and clunky best describes it. (Although that wasn't the worst thing about the car -- it was Bangle ugly too.) Nowadays it is much better and easier to use. Everybody talks about how much better other car nav+ systems are. I think BMW has now caught up.


Cheers.
__________________

I've been assimilated. 6MT/ZPP/18"/PS extended.
Appreciate 0
      05-07-2010, 02:00 PM   #3
FruitCake
Banned
Taiwan
38

 
Drives: '10 E92 M3
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Los Angeles


Posts: 1,680
iTrader: (19)

i love it, never had a problem with it.
Appreciate 0
      05-07-2010, 02:08 PM   #4
mexicanmike
Captain
United_States
9

 
Drives: 09 E93 Jerez Black
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Morgan Hill, CA


Posts: 636
iTrader: (0)

iDrive was clunky as hell when it first came out. In a large sedan, or even a sedan for that matter, I would prefer a touch screen interface. I have always been pleased with the interface that Lexus has in their cars and now with the voice recognition "learning" capabilities it has gotten even better. Yes, you need to program each contact one by one for voice dial if you want extreme accuracy, but the option is there. I though it was cool that I could enter a contact, edit the contact, and record their name in my voice so the voice recognition system almost never missed.

In a 6MT car and a sports car I like the placement of the iDrive nob. You can be leaning back, hand near the shifter and still have complete control of the on board system.(I have DCT, so I don't have to shift, but it is still more comfortable than leaning forward if it was touch screen.)

I am happy with the iDrive in my 09, but I played with the 08 iDrive and it was much, much worse.
Appreciate 0
      05-07-2010, 02:11 PM   #5
C17MooseDriver
Captain
United_States
8

 
C17MooseDriver's Avatar
 
Drives: E92 AW M3 6MT
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: San Antonio, TX


Posts: 868
iTrader: (0)

I've never used the old iDrive, but I love my current one. Once you learn it, it's pretty easy to use. I'm glad they added buttons back to the knob because it makes it quick and easy to use.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      05-07-2010, 02:25 PM   #6
swamp2
Lieutenant General
United_States
213

 
swamp2's Avatar
 
Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: San Diego, CA USA


Posts: 10,201
iTrader: (1)

The Nav is really the only terrible part of the iDrive system. And with regards to that it is really only the menu structure part of the user interface that stinks.
Appreciate 0
      05-07-2010, 03:29 PM   #7
ss134
Brigadier General
United Kingdom
66

 
ss134's Avatar
 
Drives: ...a hard bargain...
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Germany/UK


Posts: 3,787
iTrader: (1)

The new i drive is amazing IMO - took me no time at all to get used to it.
Appreciate 0
      05-07-2010, 07:54 PM   #8
J08M3
Major General
United_States
102

 
J08M3's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 M3 COUPE
Join Date: May 2008
Location: NEW YORK


Posts: 6,012
iTrader: (8)

My main issue with it is the location.... It's annoying with the double hump, and the screen doesn't actually turn completely off... so at night it always catches my eye while looking out the windshield. The menu structure isn't great either. I've had other aftermarket systems with touch screen interfaces and they were so much more user friendly and easier to navigate through the menus. For a car with this much tech, the iDrive interface really falls a bit short in my opinion.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      05-07-2010, 08:03 PM   #9
ss134
Brigadier General
United Kingdom
66

 
ss134's Avatar
 
Drives: ...a hard bargain...
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Germany/UK


Posts: 3,787
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by J08M3 View Post
My main issue with it is the location.... It's annoying with the double hump, and the screen doesn't actually turn completely off... so at night it always catches my eye while looking out the windshield. The menu structure isn't great either. I've had other aftermarket systems with touch screen interfaces and they were so much more user friendly and easier to navigate through the menus. For a car with this much tech, the iDrive interface really falls a bit short in my opinion.
Are you talking about the new or old idrive?
Appreciate 0
      05-07-2010, 08:32 PM   #10
808MGuy
Colonel
49

 
808MGuy's Avatar
 
Drives: 2009 E90 M3
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Oahu, Hawaii


Posts: 2,287
iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by J08M3 View Post
My main issue with it is the location.... It's annoying with the double hump, and the screen doesn't actually turn completely off... so at night it always catches my eye while looking out the windshield. The menu structure isn't great either. I've had other aftermarket systems with touch screen interfaces and they were so much more user friendly and easier to navigate through the menus. For a car with this much tech, the iDrive interface really falls a bit short in my opinion.
Which aftermarket heads have you used? I played with pretty much all of the most popular ones. Pioneer, Kenwood, Clarion, Eclipse and none of them have been easier to use than the iDrive. As the posted above said, are you talking about '08 iDrive or '09? It makes a big difference. Both of them can't be turned completely off but I've never had an issue with that.
__________________
09 E90 M3 - Interlagos Blue / Black Novillo / Sycamore Anthracite / Eibach / HRE

Appreciate 0
      05-07-2010, 08:41 PM   #11
Krozi
Colonel
United_States
49

 
Krozi's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 E92 ///M3 Alpine White
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: SoFla - Bonita Springs


Posts: 2,707
iTrader: (21)

I really like the iDrive, too bad I don't have the upgraded ones in the 2009+ models....the Navigation sub-menu was a little complcated at first...but after using it once or
twice I got the hang of it...
__________________

2008 E92 ///M3 Alpine White//Fox Red//6MT//
Florida Bimmer - Join us on FaceBook!
Appreciate 0
      05-08-2010, 12:10 AM   #12
elp_jc
Brigadier General
United_States
79

 
Drives: .
Join Date: May 2008
Location: .


Posts: 4,910
iTrader: (0)

I like my '08 iDrive a lot, and the knob looks way better than the new one IMO. Fortunately, I don't care for any of the improvements with the '09. The only part that needs practice if finding some features that are not intuitive at all, but that happens even on Hondas (current vehicle location is under the 'icon' menu). The worst thing about BMW is the use of icons for everything without a written definition at the bottom of iDrive; you have to guess, or experiment, and sometimes it throws everything off . But I like it immensely better than any touchscreen; not only because you don't have to reach at all, but because the screen doesn't look like crap when it's off (smeared fingers all over the place, and you just can't remove them).

Hey, I know where everything is and how to operate everything by now except just couldn't get the damn map to show up without having to program a destination: Is it possible? Got around it by choosing a destination and cancelling the route, but curious about the answer. Thanks.
Appreciate 0
      05-08-2010, 03:46 AM   #13
FruitCake
Banned
Taiwan
38

 
Drives: '10 E92 M3
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Los Angeles


Posts: 1,680
iTrader: (19)

I've used the 2008 iDrive on an M5 and my 2010 iDrive on my M3. I liked the iDrive on the 2008, i LOVE the iDrive on the new one
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:52 PM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST