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      11-22-2006, 02:05 PM   #23
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The amount of ignorance on this board (and society, in general) is appaling.

People who try to pass this off as "it's just words" and "he only directed it at one person" need to really wake-the-fuck up. Michael Richards has some serious problems with African-Americans (and perhaps rage, anger, etc.) and it was absolutely disgusting for him to say those things. He has lost an enormous amount of respect from society and he knows it......

To anyone who doesn't think he crossed any lines or that "it's just words"..........FUCK YOU! (but it's just words, right?).
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The amount of ignorance on this board (and society, in general) is appaling.

People who try to pass this off as "it's just words" and "he only directed it at one person" need to really wake-the-fuck up. Michael Richards has some serious problems with African-Americans (and perhaps rage, anger, etc.) and it was absolutely disgusting for him to say those things. He has lost an enormous amount of respect from society and he knows it......

To anyone who doesn't think he crossed any lines or that "it's just words"..........FUCK YOU! (but it's just words, right?).
who ever said kramer needed to like black people.

even if he does hate them, do you care? because you shouldn't

it's a free country here, and as long as he's not running around lynching people you should calm down a bit.

just to share a bit, I hate indian food.
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who ever said kramer needed to like black people.

even if he does hate them, do you care? because you shouldn't

it's a free country here, and as long as he's not running around lynching people you should calm down a bit.

just to share a bit, I hate indian food.
If Michael Richards said he hated soul food, the reactions wouldn't have been quite the same.

WARD, YOU RACIST LOL!
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it's a free country here, and as long as he's not running around lynching people you should calm down a bit.
uhmmm....no. At least that is a fringe, but obviously legal, viewpoint within America. Mr. Richards could never be elected into any office at this point without some unforeseen set of circumstances.
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Those saying "it's just a word" is really quite disturbing. The fact is unless you are black you can NEVER appreciate where those offended are coming from, plain and simple, you just CAN'T. Unless you are black and have grown up black you simply don't have the right to downplay or rationalize his statements by saying "they're just words", you just DON'T...man the ignorance here, which appears all too prominant, is very very uncomforting.
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uhmmm....no. At least that is a fringe, but obviously legal, viewpoint within America. Mr. Richards could never be elected into any office at this point without some unforeseen set of circumstances.

I'm not disagreeing with you there, he's certainly not fit for a gvt office


I'm not trying to say that it's good or OK, but he certainly has a right to say/feel however he wants.
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If Michael Richards said he hated soul food, the reactions wouldn't have been quite the same.

WARD, YOU RACIST LOL!

if he said he hated mexican food I would track him down and stab him
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To put it in perspective, replace "ni gger" with "spic" or "chink" or "kike" or "imbread white fucking trash", then replay the clip and this should hopefully give you a new perspective...

Keep in mind I am white/hispanic and much associated with the "white crowd" but I just dont see how someone of his caliber (mainstream, hollywood celeb that is) can come off so ignorant and uneducated...
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To put it in perspective, replace "******" with "spic" or "chink" or "kike" or "imbread white fucking trash", then replay the clip and this should hopefully give you a new perspective...
that's just the thing, I wouldn't care


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that's just the thing, I wouldn't care


That maybe true, but you obviously have a different background/perspective/viewpoint than many others. It is pretty clear that in America that the words used my Mr. Richards are unacceptable for those that value and respect diversity. You simply can't ignore America's past and pretend everyone else should too.
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that's just the thing, I wouldn't care


Okay so you would'nt care and to be honest if it were me I may not either (most likely not the case I have the temperment of a pitbull)...but I can garentee one thing, if he were to say it to say a close friend, or buddy or lets even say your mother or father who you happened to take with you there would be...well....serious repercussions
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Whether it was said or not, I find it disapointing that some people still think that way.
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that's just the thing, I wouldn't care
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In my eyes, and maybe it's cause I'm a cracker ass cracka, (oh I'm going to hell for that one ) but I don't see the difference between a black person being called the n word, a fat person being called lard ass or a mentally disabled person being called a dee dee dee. They're all hateful and humiliating. But if Richards had started calling a fat person in the audience lard ass and railing on them we wouldn't be here would we?

So where's the ignorance? I understand the n word is hateful. If it's such a hateful word, why does the african american population still allow it's use by entertainers that are african american? Because it's just a word and depending on context it has different meanings.

Nobody's arguing what Richards did was right or justifiable. I'm arguing that it only matters as much as you let it matter.

What is really starting to piss me off is all the people coming out of the woodwork complaining about how it's so racist blah blah blah but they let LAPD get away with the racial beating last week. Not a word mentioned. That's the shit that needs going after, not some hack comedian.

1st amendment guarantees you the right to free speach, but it doesn't grant you the right of verbal harassment. There's no amendment that gives anybody the right to put the beat down on somebody.

Well, unless you're GWB and congress says it's okay.
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like others have said, Kramer didn't call you the N word.
Which is why I said in my earlier post that he doesn't need to apologize to me. I can remember attending a majority white school that I've actually helped integrate because of the kolor of my skin. And I've been called the "N" word in those schools by those not in my color scheme. And I was told by one my friends in my neighborhood that he was moving because his father said that there were too many black people moving into the neighborhood. And that's his father's right to do so. So I had to develop thick skin at an early age towards ignorance. My point is not everyone will walk away or turn the other cheek. It's just reality. Scar tissue my friend.
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It's very nice to see we such kind and understanding people on this forum.

Trust me when I say this. I've been called the N word all my life and it never gets any easier to hear it.

It feels like someone is saying you're not human to me, you're beneath me and when I call you this name, I'm showing you how I donít like you, I donít care about you and your race. Stay in your placeÖ

Itís hard enough sometimes to just be human, let alone someone attacking you along the way.

People always have a way of letting you down.
Ain't that the truth - as an Italian American growing up in a WASP community I had to face a lot of insults as you can well imagine...Richards was way out of line...we all belong to the human race and we had better start learning how to get along....
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who ever said kramer needed to like black people.

even if he does hate them, do you care? because you shouldn't

it's a free country here, and as long as he's not running around lynching people you should calm down a bit.

just to share a bit, I hate indian food.

FIRST of all, who said you need to reply to my post trying to explain something you're not capable of? Get off this "it's a free country" bullshit because it's not as free as people think.........just ask the soldiers in the Middle East.

Yes, I would care if someone (ESPECIALLY in the public eye/mainstream) was openly saying those things to someone..........it's blatant racism/discrimination/ignorance/etc.

PS: You probably hate Indian food because you've watched Indiana Jones too many times and think Indian food is monkey brains and stuff like that......you ignorant fucktard. :mad:
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If it's such a hateful word, why does the african american population still allow it's use by entertainers that are african american?
exactly

Why is it ok for someone like Chris Rock to use the "cracker" and not be vilified for that?

All I am saying is that ANY racial remarks (and I am East Indian BTW) should not be tolerated...having said that I think there is a little bigot in all of us..

Just a side when someone calls me "PAKI" that really turns my screw...

As for what he said - it was really really bad....he just couldnt handle the pressure..that's why people say that you should never sit at the front in a comedy club if you dont want to picked on..

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PS: You probably hate Indian food because you've watched Indiana Jones too many times and think Indian food is monkey brains and stuff like that......you ignorant fucktard. :mad:

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......you ignorant fucktard. :mad:
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