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      03-16-2010, 11:58 AM   #1
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Who was the last king of Jerusalem?

Ok here is a question. Who was the last King of Jerusalem? This might start a heated debate however once you hear the answer and where this is going maybe some of you will actually see this from a different point of view.
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I see no is answering this question. What gives? The answer will render no backlashes. I promise. Majority will get it wrong anyway LOL
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I'm guessing he drove a BMW!
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nah he didnt drive a bmw. i dont think he liked bmw's.
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Is this some Knights Templar shit you're getting at?
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... once you hear the answer and where this is going maybe some of you will actually see this from a different point of view.
Yes ... but right now it's going nowhere
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Yes ... but right now it's going nowhere
The last king of Jerusalem was King Abdullah Hussein of Jordan. Israel won Jerusalem from the Jordanians. Im just curious why the Palestinians are claiming Jerusalem as theirs and want East Jerusalem as their capital. Technically Jordan should be asking for it back since it was theirs. As least thats my opinion.
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Why not make it the capital of both races? Why does of have to be one or the other? That is why we will always conflict with each other
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Why not make it the capital of both races? Why does of have to be one or the other? That is why we will always conflict with each other
Israeli and Arab are not races.

Why should the Israelis give up any part of their capital? When the Arabs controlled East Jerusalem, Jews were forbidden from entering their most holy site, why should they voluntarily subject themselves to that again?
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Israeli and Arab are not races.

Why should the Israelis give up any part of their capital? When the Arabs controlled East Jerusalem, Jews were forbidden from entering their most holy site, why should they voluntarily subject themselves to that again?
Ive been saying that or years. But my main argument is that the Jordanians arent even asking for it back. So why do the Palestinians feel they have the right to it.
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Wasn't it the last Crusader king who got a butt whoopin by Saladin?

His name was Baldwin IV of Jerusalem.
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Wasn't it the last Crusader king who got a butt whoopin by Saladin?

His name was Baldwin IV of Jerusalem.
We werent discussing Saladin. We were discussing the last king of Jerusalem. And the last king of Jerusalem was Abdullah Hussein of Jordan
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We werent discussing Saladin. We were discussing the last king of Jerusalem. And the last king of Jerusalem was Abdullah Hussein of Jordan
He wasn't King of Jerusalem - he was the King of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan. The Ottoman Sultans weren't King of Jerusalem either - they were Ottoman Sultans.

The last King of Jerusalem was the last Crusader King aka Baldwin V from 1185-1186 under the regency of Count Raymond III of Tripoli. I mistakenly mentioned Baldwin IV as the last King of Jerusalem.

Baldwin the IV died of leprosy. After Baldwin V died Sibylla (sister of Baldwin IV) and Guy (Sibylla's hubby) tried to rule the kingdom - but it was destroyed by Saladin after the Battle of Hattin in 1187. The Europeans lingered in Acre and other towns until they went back to where they came from in the 1290's - they went back to Europe where they belonged.
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He wasn't King of Jerusalem - he was the King of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan. The Ottoman Sultans weren't King of Jerusalem either - they were Ottoman Sultans.

The last King of Jerusalem was the last Crusader King aka Baldwin V from 1185-1186 under the regency of Count Raymond III of Tripoli. I mistakenly mentioned Baldwin IV as the last King of Jerusalem.

Baldwin the IV died of leprosy. After Baldwin V died Sibylla (sister of Baldwin IV) and Guy (Sibylla's hubby) tried to rule the kingdom - but it was destroyed by Saladin after the Battle of Hattin in 1187. The Europeans lingered in Acre and other towns until they went back to where they came from in the 1290's - they went back to Europe where they belonged.
Cycler's point is that Hussein was the last monarch to rule Jerusalem. If you want to go by who claimed the title of King of Jerusalem, that would be Juan Carlos of Spain. His official title is:

His Catholic Majesty, the King of Spain, King of Castile, of León, of Aragón, of the Two Sicilies, of Jerusalem, of Navarre, of Granada, of Seville, of Toledo, of Valencia, of Galicia, of Sardinia, of Córdoba, of Corsica, of Murcia, of Jaén, of the Algarves, of Algeciras, of Gibraltar, of the Canary Islands, of the East and West Indies, of the Islands and Mainland of the Ocean Sea; Archduke of Austria; Duke of Burgundy, of Brabant, of Milan, of Athens and Neopatria; Count of Habsburg, of Flanders, of Tyrol, of Roussillon, and of Barcelona; Lord of Biscay and of Molina; Captain-General and Supreme Commander of the Royal Armed Forces; Sovereign Grand-Master of the Order of the Golden Fleece and of the orders awarded by the Spanish state.
—Title II The Crown, Article 56 (2), the Spanish Constitution of 1978.
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Israeli and Arab are not races.

Why should the Israelis give up any part of their capital? When the Arabs controlled East Jerusalem, Jews were forbidden from entering their most holy site, why should they voluntarily subject themselves to that again?
Oh that's funny, the Israelis have a right to it but the Palestinians don't....

That makes a ton of sense

Jews want peace yet they don't want arabs to have rights. Good luck with that.
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Oh that's funny, the Israelis have a right to it but the Palestinians don't....

That makes a ton of sense

Jews want peace yet they don't want arabs to have rights. Good luck with that.
Yes, Israel has the same right to Jerusalem that they have to Tel Aviv. The fought for it and won. That is the same right we have to NY, New Orleans and Dallas.

Israeli Arabs have more political rights than their brethren in any Arab nation except maybe Iraq.
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Yes, Israel has the same right to Jerusalem that they have to Tel Aviv. The fought for it and won. That is the same right we have to NY, New Orleans and Dallas.

Israeli Arabs have more political rights than their brethren in any Arab nation except maybe Iraq.
While we are on the subject I have another question. If Gaza was won from Egypt why are the Palestinians claiming that as well? Furthermore if the west bank was won from Jordan why are the Palestinians claiming that as well. So basically they are claiming a part that used to belong to Egypt. As well as a part that belonged to Jordan right after 1967. But before June 5th 1967 those lands did not belong to the Palestinians. And after June 10th when Egypt and Jordan lost that land to the Israelis then the Palestinians decided that Gaza and the West bank as well as Jerusalem was theirs and they want it. Interesting. Ok here is what I want. I want a piece of Long Island as well as a piece of Manhattan. I mean the Indians used to own it but once the US got that from them I think a portion should belong to me LOL
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