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      03-25-2010, 12:27 PM   #23
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So are you defending Ann Coulter's philosophy? Just curious if you agree with her or if you just think everyone who disagrees with you is stupid.
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Back on topic.

This bitch is a genius, she doesn't give a fuck about Muslims or any other race/religion, she just knows what to say to make people talk about her so she can make more money. That's what its all about, making herself look ruthless etc. but that bitch only cares about the money she's making. Pure genius.

Enjoy your lambo you bad bitch you.
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So are you defending Ann Coulter's philosophy? Just curious if you agree with her or if you just think everyone who disagrees with you is stupid.
I am defending her right to speak her mind without the threat of violence or prosecution.
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I am defending her right to speak her mind without the threat of violence or prosecution.
And you pick her to defend?
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And you pick her to defend?
She is the one being attacked.
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      03-25-2010, 01:07 PM   #28
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And you pick her to defend?
That bitch can say whatever she wants. Nothing she says has any meaning and the only people who are bothered by what she says are the ones who listen.

I'm telling you, this lady is a genius.
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She is the one being attacked.
So you honestly think that she should have the right to say whatever she wants in any country no matter who she offends. Do I have the right to burn a cross in my front yard, of course not.

She and many others need to learn some respect for fellow human beings.
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She and many others need to learn some respect for fellow human beings.
This only goes one way. If it was someone liberal, saying things they don't like, they will be all gung-ho about it, immediately forgetting about anything to do with the First Amendment.
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So you honestly think that she should have the right to say whatever she wants in any country no matter who she offends. Do I have the right to burn a cross in my front yard, of course not.

She and many others need to learn some respect for fellow human beings.
well she didnt burn a canadian flag so that's not really a fair comparison. Now if you said all Americans are ignorant morons I'd have no problem with it. You have the right to say whatever you want.
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I am defending her right to speak her mind without the threat of violence or prosecution.
I agree that she has that right, but it's sad that she uses it to promote hatred and racism. Just don't convince yourself that you're somehow defending justice by defending this person's right to free speech.
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She and many others need to learn some respect for fellow human beings.


It's so simple yet so unattainable
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So you honestly think that she should have the right to say whatever she wants in any country no matter who she offends. Do I have the right to burn a cross in my front yard, of course not.

She and many others need to learn some respect for fellow human beings.
In the absence of a true threat, incitement to immediate violence, or slander, yes I believe she has the right to say whatever she wants without fear of violence or prosecution. No one has a right not to be offended.

It seems you are the one lacking respect for her rights as a human being.
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well she didnt burn a canadian flag so that's not really a fair comparison. Now if you said all Americans are ignorant morons I'd have no problem with it. You have the right to say whatever you want.

The right to freedom of speech is not absolute in any country and the right is commonly subject to limitations, such as on "hate speech".
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I agree that she has that right, but it's sad that she uses it to promote hatred and racism. Just don't convince yourself that you're somehow defending justice by defending this person's right to free speech.
So, only speech you agree with is worth defending?
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Back on topic.

This bitch is a genius, she doesn't give a fuck about Muslims or any other race/religion, she just knows what to say to make people talk about her so she can make more money. That's what its all about, making herself look ruthless etc. but that bitch only cares about the money she's making. Pure genius.

Enjoy your lambo you bad bitch you.
Reminds me of how Hitler started out. I am not saying Ann Coulter is the next Hitler. But she preaches through hate.
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It seems you are the one lacking respect for her rights as a human being.
You again miss the point. Human beings don't have the inherent right to free speech. I am talking about decency to others. Treat people like you want to be treated.

Maybe they should have let her speak. She may have been arrested.
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In the absence of a true threat, incitement to immediate violence, or slander, yes I believe she has the right to say whatever she wants without fear of violence or prosecution. No one has a right not to be offended.

It seems you are the one lacking respect for her rights as a human being.
Under this theory I am allowed to call Ann Coulter a cunt and have you not be upset with me. By the way I am a republican, and find this woman a shame to the political party. Any extremist is bad regardless of political party or religious affiliation.
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You again miss the point. Human beings don't have the inherent right to free speech. I am talking about decency to others. Treat people like you want to be treated.

Maybe they should have let her speak. She may have been arrested.
Human beings DO have an inherent right to free speech. Who do you believe has an inherent power to limit the speech of another?

Of course she should have been allowed to speak.

What exactly would you have her arrested for?
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Under this theory I am allowed to call Ann Coulter a cunt and have you not be upset with me. By the way I am a republican, and find this woman a shame to the political party. Any extremist is bad regardless of political party or religious affiliation.
You are free to call her anything you want.

As Barry Goldwater famously said, "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice ... moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"
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From the understanding of Canadian law (from her column even) I think it would have been okay to charge and arrest her with a "hate crime". I do not agree with the violence that actually kept her from giving the speech though.

I believe you should be able to say whatever you want where ever you want. Just know there can be political and civil penalties. I do not think physical violence is the right thing to fight words with.
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From the understanding of Canadian law (from her column even) I think it would have been okay to charge and arrest her with a "hate crime". I do not agree with the violence that actually kept her from giving the speech though.

I believe you should be able to say whatever you want where ever you want. Just know there can be political and civil penalties. I do not think physical violence is the right thing to fight words with.
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Human beings DO have an inherent right to free speech. Who do you believe has an inherent power to limit the speech of another?

Of course she should have been allowed to speak.

What exactly would you have her arrested for?
Why not focus your energies on what is going on in China for example if you are so concerned with free speech.

Statements like the following serve no purpose other then to sell books.
“They’d better hope the United States doesn’t roll over one night and crush them. They are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent.”
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