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      03-15-2010, 02:40 AM   #1
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(VID) I'm Boosted! Gintani Stage 2+ E92 M3 Supercharger In Action

I'm finally boosted! I have been driving the car for a week, and have done quite a bit of spirited driving, the car is SCARY FAST! I couldn't be more happier with the results. The Customer service from everyone at Gintani is fantastic, they really took care of me, and kept me informed through the entire install process. Alex, Arno, Josh, and G were just as excited as I was, they are quality people who understand what enthusiasts want out of their BMW's, THANK YOU!

The pictures I've seen of the kit don't quite do it justice, I must say the hardware is top notch, well built, well crafted, and the fitment is fantastic, they flat out did an amazing job.

A few of the pluses I like about the kit is they choose to utilize an 8 Rib pulley and a crank pulley that is independent of the accessories. The charge cooler is massive, the PCV pieces are extremely well built. They also built me a custom W/M tank located in the trunk, with a level sensor, they installed gauges for me, along with a CF gauge pod, and they took the time to relocate the cigarette lighter, talk about CS!

I went with the Stage 2+, the "+" meaning 1psi more than Stage 2, it's at 7.5psi, with the addition of a WM kit. Eventually I will go with 8.5psi, and a retune. The car drives just like stock, no hiccups, fast DCT shifts, great daily drivability as well, even more important the car has performed from day one. I will post up Vbox graphs very soon as well!

Here's a vid that does a better job at explaining/showing what the car has been able to achieve. Enjoy!



Dyno Plots-

CF SAE w/ NA Bolt On Run



CF DIN



CF STD



Updated with Vbox Graphs

60-100 MPH



60-130 MPH on a almost perfectly flat road, slight decline -0.43%



0-60 MPH & 1/4 mile Run on a almost perfectly flat road, slight decline -0.24%



**Note when you read 0-60, 100 or 1/4 mile times, etc. in the Vbox software it will not show you the "1' rollout time." The "1' foot rollout function is used for most magazine times, and for 1/4 mile tracks. The times you see intially after the runs on the Vbox screen will not match the graphs you read after, so I used another program which does include the 1' rollout so you can see your results as they intially appeared on the Vbox Screen.

11.41 ET with "1' Roll Out"



0-60 and 0-100, with "1' Roll Out" as they intially appear on the Vbox screen.



vBox FILES:
130Drew_SC_Stage_2+.zip


***EDIT***

The above dyno's are not a true indication of what the car actually was making the more relevant/accurate dyno's and an explanation of the dyno discrepancy are here.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=392834

From the above link/thread.

I'll admit Dyno's don't mean a whole heck of a lot to me in comparison to real world performance results/Vbox data. However, over the course of the past several months it seems my Gintani Stage 2+ dyno's have created a lot of questions and at times some over the top drama, but this thread is about the #'s before and now, nothing else!

My initial dyno of 517WHP was not stellar, and when I heard the #'s, I was not excited. I expected more especially when you see other vendors had posted dyno's near 600whp at 6-7psi on pump gas! HOWEVER, after I drove the car, did every Vbox test I could, ran a few comparo's I knew the car was performing much better than that 517whp # indicated, and frankly I didn't care anymore about the initial dyno because real world results were more important to me than dyno's and I was loving the performance results.

Here's a few reasons why -

1. The very night I picked up my car, the Vbox performance #'s, were in line or very close to Enzo's, ZR1's, LP640's, Carrera GT's, Modded 996/7TT's, Modded GT-R's, etc. The car annihilated a stock 997tt and modded M5.

2. 7.3s on the Vbox no other car has hit that making only 517/532whp, even those that dynoed the same or more than me, except Mike's 560whp @5.5psi & 100 shot ESS SC'd M3 that ran an outstanding 7 seconds flat! Regardless his Dyno #'s and mine did not correlate in the least, but our Vbox times were very close.

3. Comparo runs, the car has ran with 600whp GT-R's, even pulled at times, highly modded 550+whp 996TT's, ran with a 750 BHP 997TT, a 635whp HPF Stage 3 E46 M3 and many more, the car run after run does very well against cars that at the time had dynoed much more than me. I knew that other supercharged cars making the same or even more power on the dyno, did not do as well as my car has against similar cars.

4. 11.45 @ 131 MPH, The other car that trapped 130 MPH was a Gintani car, that is flat out moving folks.

Discovering The Reason For The 517 and 532 #'s

Some, including myself thought maybe the cats were the reason for the lower #'s because the car was absolutely performing in the real world and on the Vbox, so after I changed the xpipe to the Gintani catless setup I went back and dynoed again, and I hit 532WHP, not a bad #, but it was still not correlating with the results I was seeing on the road, and based on my performance #'s that dyno result still didn't make much sense at all. So I experimented a bit.

The Gintani "Ram Intake" at the time had a very small air filter, smaller than stock, so after the 532 dyno run, I simply took the filter off, and the results were pretty crazy, lol, 600WHP & 397WTQ on the very next pull! But of course at 10-11psi, lol, way too much for the octane I was running, but the ECU protected the motor, and unfortunately it enabled a temporary limp mode where your redline is reduced for a certain amount of miles. Regardless, at 8psi the car was around 540whp SAE at only 7100rpms! Where on the run just before I hit the 532WHP @ 8psi near redline.

So after this we installed a new intake, did some slight retuning, but the Vbox #'s were basically the same. What I've come to realize is the initial airbox with it's "ram air" induction worked optimally while the car was moving. But stationary on a dyno it was not getting enough air, it was choking the car quite a bit, and skewing the actual dyno results in comparison to how it was performing! I was satisfied that this was the reason and after that hit i hit 7.3s 60-130 and the 131 trap, all in line with how the car was running in comparo runs, so curious once again I went back and dynoed.

What The Gintani Stage 2+ Kit Actually Measures on The Dyno Jet (The Standard)

FWIW I am seeing 8psi on my AEM boost gauge, but do from time to time see 9psi. I'm posting the dyno results with all 3 different CF's. I also ran a few more Vbox pulls this morning and hit 7.4, 7.5 & 7.6, but not in that order.

91 octane 564WHP & 364WTQ





91 octane + WATER/METH 573WHP & 374WTQ X3 runs, very consistent.





Old Intake vs. New Intake, Dyno's overlaid, HUGE difference.



Running on another Dyno Jet

I also went to another local DJ, HK Motorsports, in Van Nuys and did some runs. We did three pulls the first one on 91 octane, the next two runs on 1-2 gallons of 91 mixed with 2 gallons of 100 at the pump, as you can see I gained notta by simply pouring it in. The 2nd run was done in 5th, that is the main reason for the 12whp difference.










Big Arno from Gintani in their "True" Mini, stopping by the Dyno session to see how it went, lol.
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ESS VT3-750 - 60-130MPH 6.14s - 10.81 @ 135.13 MPH 690WHP/463WTQ
Shift-S3ctor E92 M3 - 1/2 Mile Trap Speed WR - 174.13 MPH

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Congrats Drew! You pulled hard on the cars in the comparo's!!
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damn that is sweeettttt
how long did the installation take?

any rough cost numbers for the kit/labor?
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Very nice. You will do this kit justice. Can't wait to see some of your heads-up videos.
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Congrats Drew! You pulled hard on the cars in the comparo's!!
You'll have to go on Youtube to find that other vid. Thanks man!
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Wow! Congrats!
Thanks man!


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damn that is sweeettttt
how long did the installation take?

any rough cost numbers for the kit/labor?
Thanks! The install took a few weeks, as I had 3 gauges, a WM kit and tank installed as well, I believe Gintani still has a special on kits, contact them for info.

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Very nice. You will do this kit justice. Can't wait to see some of your heads-up videos.
Thanks man, wow, I very much appreciate the kind words!
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Can't wait to see your car again brotha!!!! Gintani really put together a very well designed kit!!!
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I love this video! Congrats on your new kit. Now let's get your car ready for the next Mojave Mile in September!
Thanks Robert, appreciate that Bro! If I didn't have to put a rollcage in, I would do it for sure!
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SICK VID! congrats Drew. I cant wait to see how many cars u will put to shame at the Mexico runs now that ur boosted

Man I love ur vid bro, it pumps me up. lol
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Congrats brotha!!!!

The vid, everything from it's content, music, and the way it was put together is superb. Has the feel of a trailer to a action packed movie, pun intended. It's like a lil teaser of what's going to take place on the streets of Mexico. Looking forward to more vids, runs, reviews and fun times!

The kit looks amazing! The cooler in the mani is huge, and so is the heat exchanger.

You running dual nozzles for the meth? What size are they?

And wow, you WRECKED the modded m5 and 997tt in the other vids!
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LOL. So true! The vid was like an action movie trailer.
+1...I just watched that vid like 10 times, its so cool.
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soo sick.. enjoy the new power!
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Yo Drew!! the VID is just so sick!!! so sick!!!

the music the sounds of the exhaust I mean WTF!!!! SO SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CAN YOU TEACH ME?

Hey I am very happy for you!!! 7.7 sec is not an easy time to beat.

How did the tires hold up for you?
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Sickest video ever! Gintani FTW!
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I especially like the part when the screen jumps a lil when it shows the power/torque... it's like "o_O WTFBBQ?" lol
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HOLY SH#T!!!!!! Great video! VBOX RUNS WOW!!!!
THOSE TIMES ARE RIDICULOUS!
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Wow Drew congrats. Gintani SC is a fucking BEAST. Didn't know it was THAT fast, holy hell. Be safe, you're piloting a rocket ship now.
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great comparison runs!!! wow..smoked them
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