ESS - product discussion / request

e.n335 · 03-07-2010, 04:37 AM

Hi,

I'd like to discuss about a product between ESS Stage I and ESS Stage II.

For regular inspections / emission tests I'd request for Stage I, intercooled, boosting 3-4PSI relative. Heat is enemy #1 in FI applications, so I'll go intercooled. This should provide around 500bhp and 520nm crank and would be very reliable. Nice performance bump for my daily commuter

. If such a configuration would be possible, what would be the list price for such a product ( US$ 10 - 11k would be ideal pricing from my point of view ) ? Background for my discussion / request is that I would like to get the best SC kit available for my M3, street legal where I live. I'm limited to +20% power above stock to keep the car street-legal and have to keep the OEM catalysts.

G-Power provides such a product, their Stage I, it's in the US$ 12 -13k price range. And they drill a hole into your engine ( SC oil support ), which I absolutely want to avoid.

ESS supercharged BMWs for years, if not decades. IMO they have best experience in this technology.

The ESS M3 power / torque curves look simply impressive.

Thank you in advance for your feedback.

Eugen

m328ci · 03-07-2010, 05:16 AM

Get ESS, you will not be disappointed.

m33 · 03-07-2010, 09:55 AM

how would they know how much power your kicking out ?
Go for the stage 2 ..... the kit performs flawlessly

ThorPR · 03-07-2010, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by m33

how would they know how much power your kicking out ?
Go for the stage 2 ..... the kit performs flawlessly

+1

I doubt they would put your car on a dyno to verify.

Roman@ESS · 03-07-2010, 10:42 AM

You can order the stage 2 kit and request a 500 hp configuration if you want. If you have questions feel free to PM or email me

e.n335 · 03-07-2010, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rom3n

You can order the stage 2 kit and request a 500 hp configuration if you want. If you have questions feel free to PM or email me

This sounds great

.

m33 · 03-07-2010, 01:17 PM

Now how you like that , My man Roman never ever let's you down .
But that would irretate the shit out off me knowing a have a 600+ kit configured to put out 500 ... =)

Bob MG · 03-08-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by m33

But that would irritate the shit out off me knowing I have a 600+ kit configured to put out 500 ... =)

Like banging with a tight rubber band around your balls

rockd · 03-08-2010, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob MG

Like banging with a tight rubber band around your balls

don't knock it til you tried it!

e46e92love · 03-08-2010, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockd

don't knock it til you tried it!

Lemans_Blue_M · 03-08-2010, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockd

don't knock it til you tried it!

Bob MG · 03-09-2010, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockd

don't knock it til you tried it!

Will give it go tonight and report first thing tomorow am!! Lol

xxe92xx · 03-09-2010, 01:16 AM

check out the gintani supercharger too...someone with a DCT trapped 130 in 1/4

m33 · 03-09-2010, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob MG

Will give it go tonight and report first thing tomorow am!! Lol

1036E90M · 03-09-2010, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.n335

Hi,

I'd like to discuss about a product between ESS Stage I and ESS Stage II.

For regular inspections / emission tests I'd request for Stage I, intercooled, boosting 3-4PSI relative. Heat is enemy #1 in FI applications, so I'll go intercooled. This should provide around 500bhp and 520nm crank and would be very reliable. Nice performance bump for my daily commuter

. If such a configuration would be possible, what would be the list price for such a product ( US$ 10 - 11k would be ideal pricing from my point of view ) ? Background for my discussion / request is that I would like to get the best SC kit available for my M3, street legal where I live. I'm limited to +20% power above stock to keep the car street-legal and have to keep the OEM catalysts.

G-Power provides such a product, their Stage I, it's in the US$ 12 -13k price range. And they drill a hole into your engine ( SC oil support ), which I absolutely want to avoid.

ESS supercharged BMWs for years, if not decades. IMO they have best experience in this technology.

The ESS M3 power / torque curves look simply impressive.

Thank you in advance for your feedback.

Eugen

Are any of the options you're mentioning above watercooled opposed to the intercooled option? I must say the FI route is intriguing the shit out of me

....

And don't do the rubber band balls thing :\. Don't you all want kids someday?

Sal@Evolve · 03-10-2010, 02:02 AM

The G-Power kits taps into the rocker cover only. Not expensive to replace. I'm sure if you insisted, the dealer would throw a brand new one in as part of the package.

H Bomb · 03-10-2010, 02:35 AM

that isn't there normal kit and if he is worried about his car passing emmisions etc he couldn't use what that guy has on his. reg gintani yes but not what the one that trapped 130

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Originally Posted by xxe92xx

check out the gintani supercharger too...someone with a DCT trapped 130 in 1/4

MrLOL · 03-10-2010, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m33

how would they know how much power your kicking out ?
Go for the stage 2 ..... the kit performs flawlessly

He lives in switzerland

A country that hates the car beyond belief. All forms of motorsport are now totally banned in switzerland. No track days, no Formula 1, No rallying etc..

All ILLEGAL.

they also have all sorts of strange laws about certain road being off limits after 10pm, your not allowed to wash your car on a sunday,

They even proposed to ban any car that emits more than 250g/km of CO2

http://green.autoblog.com/2008/08/05...-car-laws-any/

Switzerland really hates the car !

xxe92xx · 03-10-2010, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H Bomb

that isn't there normal kit and if he is worried about his car passing emmisions etc he couldn't use what that guy has on his. reg gintani yes but not what the one that trapped 130

the only way a supercharger wont pass emissions is if your running catless or your race cats are causing a CEL....but minus the 130 (which was one hit wonder if you know what im talking about, which doesnt have anything to do with gintani) gintani's supercharger is very good

Lemans_Blue_M · 03-10-2010, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxe92xx

the only way a supercharger wont pass emissions is if your running catless or your race cats are causing a CEL....but minus the 130 (which was one hit wonder if you know what im talking about, which doesnt have anything to do with gintani) gintani's supercharger is very good

Actually, it's a little more complicated than that...

You will automatically fail a VISUAL emissions check in states like California as soon as the inspector opens your hood. Unless the supercharger system on your car is C.A.R.B. certified, you will fail inspection right there...

LV-E92M3 · 03-10-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemans_Blue_M

Actually, it's a little more complicated than that...

You will automatically fail a VISUAL emissions check in states like California as soon as the inspector opens your hood. Unless the supercharger system on your car is C.A.R.B. certified, you will fail inspection right there...

OMG....that's crazy... then they have to replace it to stock?

LV-E92M3 · 03-10-2010, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PencilGeek

We have a 5-year period without smog checks in CA. My plan is to drive the car for 5 years, then classify it "PNO" == "Planned Non Operational." Basically, it becomes a track car after that. Heck, it's already a track car.

I know you took out all the interior parts out and I was surprised. your car is amzing..

03-07-2010, 04:37 AM	#1
e.n335 Moderator Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH Posts: 4,482 iTrader: (0)	ESS - product discussion / request Hi, I'd like to discuss about a product between ESS Stage I and ESS Stage II. For regular inspections / emission tests I'd request for Stage I, intercooled, boosting 3-4PSI relative. Heat is enemy #1 in FI applications, so I'll go intercooled. This should provide around 500bhp and 520nm crank and would be very reliable. Nice performance bump for my daily commuter . If such a configuration would be possible, what would be the list price for such a product ( US$ 10 - 11k would be ideal pricing from my point of view ) ? Background for my discussion / request is that I would like to get the best SC kit available for my M3, street legal where I live. I'm limited to +20% power above stock to keep the car street-legal and have to keep the OEM catalysts. G-Power provides such a product, their Stage I, it's in the US$ 12 -13k price range. And they drill a hole into your engine ( SC oil support ), which I absolutely want to avoid. ESS supercharged BMWs for years, if not decades. IMO they have best experience in this technology. The ESS M3 power / torque curves look simply impressive. Thank you in advance for your feedback. Eugen
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03-07-2010, 09:55 AM	#3
m33 Banned Drives: E92 VT650 MCB Individual Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CT Posts: 2,677 iTrader: (5)	how would they know how much power your kicking out ? Go for the stage 2 ..... the kit performs flawlessly

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m33 Banned Drives: E92 VT650 MCB Individual Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CT Posts: 2,677 iTrader: (5)	Now how you like that , My man Roman never ever let's you down . But that would irretate the shit out off me knowing a have a 600+ kit configured to put out 500 ... =)

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xxe92xx Banned Drives: 08 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 783 iTrader: (2)	check out the gintani supercharger too...someone with a DCT trapped 130 in 1/4

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Sal@Evolve BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: Slow Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Luton, Bedfordshire Posts: 793 iTrader: (0)	The G-Power kits taps into the rocker cover only. Not expensive to replace. I'm sure if you insisted, the dealer would throw a brand new one in as part of the package.