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      02-21-2010, 02:39 AM   #45
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My body. My choice.
Its not just your body anymore when your pregnant. There is now another body who should be given a choice.

If your adult enough to have sex then you need to deal with the consequences of being pregnant. Murdering a child is wrong no matter how scared the mother is. Deciding against having a child before getting pregnant is one thing, but getting pregnant then sitting around and deciding whether to kill the child or not is insane.

Glad the op got everything worked out.
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Its not just your body anymore when your pregnant. There is now another body who should be given a choice.

If your adult enough to have sex then you need to deal with the consequences of being pregnant. Murdering a child is wrong no matter how scared the mother is. Deciding against having a child before getting pregnant is one thing, but getting pregnant then sitting around and deciding whether to kill the child or not is insane.

Glad the op got everything worked out.
Pretty much what I was going to say, I really only feel like that if the father wanted it and say the mother didn't.

If neither of them want the baby, then it should be aborted. It's just a mass of cells technically.

I don't think abortion should be used as birth control that's for sure...just a last measure.
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Womens 110%

If by law, the male has to pay child care, then it would be a tough choice.


But I am pro abortion 111110000000%
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Im having the kid. Abortion is just wrong. I guess its time.!!
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Im having the kid. Abortion is just wrong. I guess its time.!!
No its not. You cant say that. When a baby comes, religion, dreams, hopes, ideas and all that shit doesnt exist for 5 min. Until reality hits you.

You will let a 16 year old female have a baby living below middle class?

How would the baby survive or better yet. The baby is going to grow up just to be like her mommy

Its a very controversial topic that can go back and forth just like gay marriage.

How old are you?


Im 20 now, and my generation and below, a baby will not survive.
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No its not. You cant say that. When a baby comes, religion, dreams, hopes, ideas and all that shit doesnt exist for 5 min. Until reality hits you.

You will let a 16 year old female have a baby living below middle class?

How would the baby survive or better yet. The baby is going to grow up just to be like her mommy

Its a very controversial topic that can go back and forth just like gay marriage.

How old are you?


Im 20 now, and my generation and below, a baby will not survive.
24. reality is gonna hit me sooner or later. Minds well hit me when im ready.!
Cuz rite now im really determinded ill give up everything for the kid and girl.
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Im having the kid. Abortion is just wrong. I guess its time.!!
I used to think the same thing.
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24. reality is gonna hit me sooner or later. Minds well hit me when im ready.!
Cuz rite now im really determinded ill give up everything for the kid and girl.
Best of luck to you.

24? You can squeeze an easy 3 years of freedom!!
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I used to think the same thing.
We need abortion.

Especially for rape cases with women.
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Especially for rape cases with women.
That and we need to do whats best for the child.
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Best of luck to you.

24? You can squeeze an easy 3 years of freedom!!
Shoot, I don't wanna have kids 'til I'm 30.

I like freedom.

I laugh and cringe at the same time at those stupid assholes on my facebook, same age as me (19-20) who have kids and are married. I'm like good job ending your life before it started.
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If neither of them want the baby, then it should be aborted. It's just a mass of cells technically.
This.

I don't consider the bunch of cells in the womb to be a separate life until the heart and brain starts to function. Anytime before that is perfectly fine with me for the mother to get an abortion. Now if the life of the child is endangering the life of the mother after the heart and brain begins to function, then the exception can be made and the woman can still get an abortion.
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That and we need to do whats best for the child.
I understand rape cases. I think that should be the only exception for abortion. But how is killing it doing whats best for it? "Oh well, sorry baby, it's best that we go ahead and kill you...maybe your brother or sister will have better luck." If you take the chance of having unprotected sex, then men and women need to live up to their actions and responsibilities. Having a child can actually save some individuals and couples by turning their lives in the right direction and making them grow up!
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This.

I don't consider the bunch of cells in the womb to be a separate life until the heart and brain starts to function. Anytime before that is perfectly fine with me for the mother to get an abortion. Now if the life of the child is endangering the life of the mother after the heart and brain begins to function, then the exception can be made and the woman can still get an abortion.
hmmm....so I can detect a heartbeat on ultrasound at about 5 weeks gestational age (meaning 1 week after the missed period) and I see fetal movement of the trunk and arm/legs at about 9 weeks gestation...

does that make a difference to you...

abortion is legal with few exceptions until 24 weeks gestation...
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Jerzey: Congrats man. I am glad that everything worked out. I agree with the others here, give up the weed. It will slow you down and now is definately NOT the time to be off point.

Just for reference, us guys have a choice: You either take responsibility for yourself and have safe sex or you don't and run the risk of pregnancy. THAT is your choice. After that, it's a woman's choice as it is her body which goes under the knife, not yours.

I have a 19 month old son and I can tell you that having a child is the single hardest thing that either of you will every do. But it's also the most rewarding job you will ever have.
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Having a child can actually save some individuals and couples by turning their lives in the right direction and making them grow up!
Having a child can also bring an innocent soul into this world to parents who are not qualified to raise it.

I do not advocate abortion as birth control, but let's be honest here. There are some people in this world that should not be parents. Forcing people to try can endanger the life of the child as well as perpetuate this welfare state system we allow to continue.

We can barely take care of the people living in this country now.

There is a phrase that goes something like it takes a village to raise a child. I can agree with this statement. However, subjecting the community to the whims of your loins is selfish and irresponsible.
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Having a child can also bring an innocent soul into this world to parents who are not qualified to raise it.

I do not advocate abortion as birth control, but let's be honest here. There are some people in this world that should not procreate . Forcing people to try can endanger the life of the child as well as perpetuate this welfare state system we allow to continue.

We can barely take care of the people living in this country now.

There is a phrase that goes something like it takes a village to raise a child. I can agree with this statement. However, subjecting the community to the whims of your loins is selfish and irresponsible.
Fixed. As much as i don't want to have a child, abortion is not the answer. There are plenty of people out there spending thousands on IVF because they can't get pregnant. I could be wrong (it's happened once before) but i don't think there is a shortage of people wanting to adopt a new born baby. There is however a shortage of people who want to adopt an 8 year old. Which is sad.

To the OP. These 9 months won't be long. They will be the shortest 9 months of your life. Actually i should say they will be the shortest SOBER 9 months of your life.
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while i understand your stance, the latter can often be worse than not bringing a child into a home that isn't ready for it. with all the red tape and problems with the adoption system, i tend to think that's not a good idea. hell, the child will probably spend the first years of it's like bouncing between foster families. that's something no child should experience if no arrangements can be made prior to the child's birth.
That is VERY weak post. What about the child who wants to experience this world. It should have a chance. I can't even believe some people think it would be better to abort the child than to adopt. There are HUNDREDS of parent's out there who would love a child and can't have one on there own. Your post is baseless. There is a show on MTV 16 and pregnant, watch it, it is a small show and a bunch of the girls gave away their babies to nice couples praying for a child.

I will play the devil's advocate and say the child DOES go through several foster parents and even get's treated badly and abused. There are plenty of people who grow up and overcome all that and become successful people. There are many examples which is a testament of the power of the human spirit in overcoming obstacles.

My advice is take the female to a professional (ie OBGYN doctor) and let the doctor tell you how the child would be affected (if at all). Don't take advice from ignorant post like the one above who obviously has no experience in this arena.

The goal for living in this world is to grow and mature. You are ending a child's life before it has a chance to begin is selfish to me. And to say that a child is just a mass of cells is baseless. You are intelligent enough to know if left alone is will become a person in due time; a child develops fast; I guess it has to now a days.

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