I wanna get a STI....but....

FBTO · 02-17-2010, 02:17 PM

Hi Guys. I know this is a BMW forum, but I thought since most of you are car guys I could come here to bounce off some thoughts. I am considering buying a 2010 Subaru WRX STI. (My first Subaru) But I am just not 100% sure if it is the best car for me. Also, after reading some of the long term test, the STI seems to take a bit of a beating.

I am basically looking for a fun car, that has a MANUAL tranny. Can fit my young kids (6 and 4) in the back seat once in a while. 4 wheel drive is nice, but not a must. I could do rear wheel drive. Might do a 1 or 2 track days a year. Just wondering if there are any other cars to consider before pulling the trigger on a STI.

Other options?
M3/335xi? (A bit overpriced compared to the value)
EVO X (Not really crazy about the looks)
Golf GTI (Front wheel, and not that strong)
G37x (Too many of them)
Audi A4/S4/S5 (A bit pricey and questionable reliabilty)
Merc and Lexus (No manual)

What other cars are out there that are/can be as fun as a STI? I am so in love with the White/Gold combo. But just don't know if the car is worth the $45k Canadian price tag? In that price range, (plus or minus $5k), what else is available?

Altough I can afford the above listed cars, the pricey ones might not be the best use of my money.

I sold my Lexus ISF last year, and although I loved the power and luxury, I missed the manual tranny.

Any advice?

Jaypod · 02-17-2010, 02:20 PM

Beat it!

http://www.toronto-subaru-club.com/forums/index.php

FBTO · 02-17-2010, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaypod

Beat it!

http://www.toronto-subaru-club.com/forums/index.php

Hell, I will beat you with my Camry...I have seen how you "drive" I use that word loosely...

SUB-ZERO · 02-17-2010, 02:35 PM

STIs are fun cars. If you can get past the boy-racer/big ass spoiler looks and your wife doesn't mind, then it will be a great choice. You can always remove the wing and get a nice neutral color (white, black, silver).

It is very safe, has all wheel drive and quick off the line. A poor man's Porsche....that's less good looking.

I had one and enjoyed it very much..had a TurboXS Stage 4+ kit in it and was running low 12s.

-SZ

Jaypod · 02-17-2010, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FBTO

Hell, I will beat you with my Camry...I have seen how you "drive" I use that word loosely...

I wouldnt know - too busy passing you, dont have the need to look in my rearview much. Too much power for you anyway.....

FBTO · 02-17-2010, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaypod

I wouldnt know - too busy passing you, dont have the need to look in my rearview much. Too much power for you anyway.....

When did you pass me? That never happened!

BTW, this is the 2010. No big tail!

SUB-ZERO · 02-17-2010, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FBTO

When did you pass me? That never happened!

BTW, this is the 2010. No big tail!

Looks good! Have you considered EVOs?

-SZ

bunnn · 02-17-2010, 03:05 PM

Recently a co-worker of my dad's traded in his allroad for an STI...he's raced in the past in Macau/England, and got his Formula Ford license back in the 80s ...I've driven both his car and mine..as did he..I love his car just as much as mine around town, would take it over a 335i ..it was really fun

I'd rather have an STI over an EVO, as the EVO feels seriously cheap all around, and the crowd of image of an EVO seems to be towards the younger crowd..but I wish the Ford Focus RS would come...I'd have that over any of the competiton

oh i just realized it's 2 doors..guess it wont work for you

jackolo · 02-17-2010, 03:10 PM

Ever consider an RS4? Just throwing it out there.

bunnn · 02-17-2010, 03:12 PM

OH yeah...there was discussionon how the RS4 AVANT and RS6 AVANT is being imported by Horchaus(MTM) to Canada..but the price is 70k and 115k respectively

it's so bad ass, minus the carbon build up issues

Brianrg · 02-17-2010, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FBTO

Hi Guys. I know this is a BMW forum, but I thought since most of you are car guys I could come here to bounce off some thoughts. I am considering buying a 2010 Subaru WRX STI. (My first Subaru) But I am just not 100% sure if it is the best car for me. Also, after reading some of the long term test, the STI seems to take a bit of a beating.

I am basically looking for a fun car, that has a MANUAL tranny. Can fit my young kids (6 and 4) in the back seat once in a while. 4 wheel drive is nice, but not a must. I could do rear wheel drive. Might do a 1 or 2 track days a year. Just wondering if there are any other cars to consider before pulling the trigger on a STI.

Other options?
M3/335xi? (A bit overpriced compared to the value)
EVO X (Not really crazy about the looks)
Golf GTI (Front wheel, and not that strong)
G37x (Too many of them)
Audi A4/S4/S5 (A bit pricey and questionable reliabilty)
Merc and Lexus (No manual)

What other cars are out there that are/can be as fun as a STI? I am so in love with the White/Gold combo. But just don't know if the car is worth the $45k Canadian price tag? In that price range, (plus or minus $5k), what else is available?

Altough I can afford the above listed cars, the pricey ones might not be the best use of my money.

I sold my Lexus ISF last year, and although I loved the power and luxury, I missed the manual tranny.

Any advice?

STI without the tech package all the way or take your $45k down to the USA and pick up a used E90 M3!

SlammedM6 · 02-17-2010, 05:12 PM

yikes!
a Subaru? no thanks!
stay away IMO.

grab an RS4 or a used E90 M3. im sure there are good deals out there

Fanta · 02-17-2010, 05:23 PM

Some mechanics told me "Be aware of the head gasket!"

Jaypod · 02-17-2010, 06:37 PM

I dont know Dee - not sure about the Scoobi for $45K as a daily driver, if you had another car to play with maybe. I'd say look for a 335i for around $50 or even the S4 seems to be pretty reasonable.

Just get the M3 - you know you wanna!

bunnn · 02-17-2010, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fanta

Some mechanics told me "Be aware of the head gasket!"

this applied to the older models..i dont think it's an issue in the newer cars..

SlammedM6 · 02-17-2010, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaypod

I dont know Dee - not sure about the Scoobi for $45K as a daily driver, if you had another car to play with maybe. I'd say look for a 335i for around $50 or even the S4 seems to be pretty reasonable.

Just get the M3 - you know you wanna!

+1
At the end of the day, its exactly what you need.
a DD that can serve as a track car and as a great everyday car with a MANUAL tranny and can fit your 2 skids in the back seat!

Mr.Metak2you · 02-17-2010, 06:47 PM

I like the STI alot. Just make sure you do get a deal because they do depriciate. I have seen some advertised discounts of upto $8k off MSRP on leftover models. Just have to be patient and vigilant.

calintexas · 02-17-2010, 07:07 PM

I remember reading the the regular WRX was actually a better car (faster and easier to drive) than the STI. I think it had to do with the engine size which might have been addressed in the 2010 models. Could the regular WRX be a better less expensive choice?

Not many Subbie's down here.

darren johnson · 02-17-2010, 07:59 PM

You will keep second guessing yourself until you get the M3.

find one in the USA and get TFX International to bring it up for you. They can do all your paperwork and drop it off in your driveway.

darren johnson · 02-17-2010, 08:06 PM

or you could do this. Keep the Toyota for moving the kids around and get this for yourself.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...500-miles.html

crazy cheap prices in the USA on these right now.

FBTO · 02-17-2010, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaypod

I dont know Dee - not sure about the Scoobi for $45K as a daily driver, if you had another car to play with maybe. I'd say look for a 335i for around $50 or even the S4 seems to be pretty reasonable.

Just get the M3 - you know you wanna!

What is wrong with the STI as DD? It is better than a M3. Most of you guys put your M3 away for the winter. With the STI, you have a useable car all year round.

Jaypod · 02-17-2010, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FBTO

What is wrong with the STI as DD? It is better than a M3. Most of you guys put your M3 away for the winter. With the STI, you have a useable car all year round.

I sure dont! Don't get me wrong, I really like them, I just mean I think I would have to trade in the suit for a hoodie and a baseball cap to go to work - a little boy racer for me I guess.

There was a guy at Calabogie with one that had done quite a bit of work to it. Fully tuned he was pushing over 600HP but he said it wasnt that driveable, He had at about 400hp for the track day and it performed quite nicely and sounded great too - but he couldnt keep up with the M's (even in the wet).

02-17-2010, 02:17 PM	#1
FBTO M3 Destroyer!! Drives: 10 MB C63, 02 CBR954, 05 CR125 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 430 iTrader: (0)	I wanna get a STI....but.... Hi Guys. I know this is a BMW forum, but I thought since most of you are car guys I could come here to bounce off some thoughts. I am considering buying a 2010 Subaru WRX STI. (My first Subaru) But I am just not 100% sure if it is the best car for me. Also, after reading some of the long term test, the STI seems to take a bit of a beating. I am basically looking for a fun car, that has a MANUAL tranny. Can fit my young kids (6 and 4) in the back seat once in a while. 4 wheel drive is nice, but not a must. I could do rear wheel drive. Might do a 1 or 2 track days a year. Just wondering if there are any other cars to consider before pulling the trigger on a STI. Other options? M3/335xi? (A bit overpriced compared to the value) EVO X (Not really crazy about the looks) Golf GTI (Front wheel, and not that strong) G37x (Too many of them) Audi A4/S4/S5 (A bit pricey and questionable reliabilty) Merc and Lexus (No manual) What other cars are out there that are/can be as fun as a STI? I am so in love with the White/Gold combo. But just don't know if the car is worth the $45k Canadian price tag? In that price range, (plus or minus $5k), what else is available? Altough I can afford the above listed cars, the pricey ones might not be the best use of my money. I sold my Lexus ISF last year, and although I loved the power and luxury, I missed the manual tranny. Any advice?
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02-17-2010, 03:05 PM	#8
bunnn Colonel Drives: like a grandma Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,198 iTrader: (12)	Recently a co-worker of my dad's traded in his allroad for an STI...he's raced in the past in Macau/England, and got his Formula Ford license back in the 80s ...I've driven both his car and mine..as did he..I love his car just as much as mine around town, would take it over a 335i ..it was really fun I'd rather have an STI over an EVO, as the EVO feels seriously cheap all around, and the crowd of image of an EVO seems to be towards the younger crowd..but I wish the Ford Focus RS would come...I'd have that over any of the competiton oh i just realized it's 2 doors..guess it wont work for you __________________ Cheers Ben

02-17-2010, 03:10 PM	#9
jackolo Groin Grabbingly Trascendent Drives: 997 & ///M Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Edmonton AB Posts: 342 iTrader: (5)	Ever consider an RS4? Just throwing it out there. __________________

02-17-2010, 03:12 PM	#10
bunnn Colonel Drives: like a grandma Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,198 iTrader: (12)	OH yeah...there was discussionon how the RS4 AVANT and RS6 AVANT is being imported by Horchaus(MTM) to Canada..but the price is 70k and 115k respectively it's so bad ass, minus the carbon build up issues __________________ Cheers Ben

02-17-2010, 05:12 PM	#12
SlammedM6 Brigadier General Drives: 2011 RR Sport Autobiography Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 4,923 iTrader: (2)	yikes! a Subaru? no thanks! stay away IMO. grab an RS4 or a used E90 M3. im sure there are good deals out there __________________

02-17-2010, 02:20 PM	#2
Jaypod BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: Frozen M3 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 4,670 iTrader: (7)	Beat it! http://www.toronto-subaru-club.com/forums/index.php

02-17-2010, 02:35 PM	#4
SUB-ZERO Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2008 997TT Arctic Silver Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: VA Posts: 1,563 iTrader: (0)	STIs are fun cars. If you can get past the boy-racer/big ass spoiler looks and your wife doesn't mind, then it will be a great choice. You can always remove the wing and get a nice neutral color (white, black, silver). It is very safe, has all wheel drive and quick off the line. A poor man's Porsche....that's less good looking. I had one and enjoyed it very much..had a TurboXS Stage 4+ kit in it and was running low 12s. -SZ

02-17-2010, 05:23 PM	#13
Fanta C Drives: M3, Carrera & C320 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ottawa Posts: 501 iTrader: (1)	Some mechanics told me "Be aware of the head gasket!"

02-17-2010, 06:37 PM	#14
Jaypod BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: Frozen M3 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 4,670 iTrader: (7)	I dont know Dee - not sure about the Scoobi for $45K as a daily driver, if you had another car to play with maybe. I'd say look for a 335i for around $50 or even the S4 seems to be pretty reasonable. Just get the M3 - you know you wanna!

02-17-2010, 06:47 PM	#17
Mr.Metak2you Brigadier General Drives: LEXUS LS(DailyDriver) Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Astral Projecting: ∞ 23.516 -122 02.625 0242.101 ĕv'rē-hwâr' Posts: 4,379 iTrader: (11) Garage List 2013 BMW M3 [0.00] 2011 1M Coupe (Sold) [4.30] 2008 E90 M3 (Sold) [4.30] 2007 Z4 Mcpe (Sold) [5.00] 2005 BMW M3 (Sold) [5.00]	I like the STI alot. Just make sure you do get a deal because they do depriciate. I have seen some advertised discounts of upto $8k off MSRP on leftover models. Just have to be patient and vigilant. __________________

02-17-2010, 07:07 PM	#18
calintexas Major Drives: 2010 E90 M3 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: North Texas Posts: 1,395 iTrader: (1)	Not Totally Subaru Savy I remember reading the the regular WRX was actually a better car (faster and easier to drive) than the STI. I think it had to do with the engine size which might have been addressed in the 2010 models. Could the regular WRX be a better less expensive choice? Not many Subbie's down here. __________________

02-17-2010, 07:59 PM	#19
darren johnson New Member Drives: E 93 2008 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 25 iTrader: (0)	You will keep second guessing yourself until you get the M3. find one in the USA and get TFX International to bring it up for you. They can do all your paperwork and drop it off in your driveway.

02-17-2010, 08:06 PM	#20
darren johnson New Member Drives: E 93 2008 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 25 iTrader: (0)	or you could do this. Keep the Toyota for moving the kids around and get this for yourself. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...500-miles.html crazy cheap prices in the USA on these right now.

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