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      02-12-2010, 06:40 PM   #1
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Apex ARC-8 18x10 Square setup with Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta 275/35/18

My track setup.

Some photos of the new rims/tires compared to the OEM set. Fronts have about 3/4 inch clearance at full steering lock. The come out flush with the fender when straight.

Wheels 19.95 lbs each.

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nice..square set up seems fun. wheels look good and are light
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looking good, they should work well for me at laguna seca
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hahahahaa

i just ran this exact set up except on Nitto NT-01's on the streets of willow

great set up and i love the look of the ARC- 8
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On stock suspension?
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if this is your track set up, why are you running Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta?

go with NT-05 if you want street/track tires
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if this is your track set up, why are you running Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta?

go with NT-05 if you want street/track tires
I've read a lot of good stuff about the Vreds, I want to see how they will hold up with track/autox.
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I found this on another forum. I'm guessing this is you

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yeah that him, which forum? any interlagos blue sedan pics?(me)
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yeah that him, which forum? any interlagos blue sedan pics?(me)
There is indeed

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1408131

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thats what i want
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I found this on another forum. I'm guessing this is you

Sure is!! Just got back from Streets at willow today. I ran this setup. It worked very well. A lot of fun and a lot of track time. Driving Concepts hosted. Great Instructors.

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Sure is!! Just got back from Streets at willow today. I ran this setup. It worked very well. A lot of fun and a lot of track time. Driving Concepts hosted. Great Instructors.
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Nice set-up.
I'd be interested to hear how you like them as a track tire.
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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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Nice set-up.
I'd be interested to hear how you like them as a track tire.
They're not bad for track. They feel just as grippy as the PS2's were and seem to be less susceptible to chunking. Unfortunately I can't make a direct comparison because I changed from staggered to square setup (and wider tires as well), so I'm getting a lot more oversteer than I remember with the PS2 staggered setup. The oversteer however is very predictable and controllable.

I think I'd like to compare them with Nitto Nt01s next time with the same square setup.
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They're not bad for track. They feel just as grippy as the PS2's were and seem to be less susceptible to chunking. Unfortunately I can't make a direct comparison because I changed from staggered to square setup (and wider tires as well), so I'm getting a lot more oversteer than I remember with the PS2 staggered setup. The oversteer however is very predictable and controllable.

I think I'd like to compare them with Nitto Nt01s next time with the same square setup.
Nice, I'm thinking about doing just that for next month, the Arc-8 s along with the nt-01s. Glad your liking them. Also glad I didn't get the stock 18's, paying more and getting a dedicated setup seems like a far better option.
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      03-05-2010, 04:32 PM   #18
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Nice, I'm thinking about doing just that for next month, the Arc-8 s along with the nt-01s. Glad your liking them. Also glad I didn't get the stock 18's, paying more and getting a dedicated setup seems like a far better option.
I put 275/35 Vreds on my stock rears as well. I brought both oem rears, as spares, to streets at willow just in case I hit a flat on the way.
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Do they get greasy when they get hot? I almost slid off at Willow once when the PS2's just wouldn't grip.
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Do they get greasy when they get hot? I almost slid off at Willow once when the PS2's just wouldn't grip.
I was pushing pretty hard but no major sliding.

However, I kept DSC on all the time at Streets for 2 reasons,

a) I wanted to work on my smoothness, with it off I usually spend a lot more time rear end out and working to control the car (which is a lot of fun, but not my goal for the day). You can tell very quickly with DSC on, how smoothness helps based on the speed that you can get around a given corner. Too much DSC interruption and a lot of time is lost waiting for the nanny to give back the gas pedal.

b) the cars were allowed run a lot closer together than any event I've been at before. I didn't want to spin out with some some guy on my ass.
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Hey Paddy,

Do they come close to rubbing? Do you think I can fit 295s in the back?

What offsets are your rims and do you have any spacers?

Thanks!
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