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      02-12-2010, 08:15 PM   #111
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Thanks for the info. Still not feeling this competition package though...
Sorry,

I didn't read through all of the posts, but I have a 2011 E92 being built week 12 and having been through the process, I will say this..... the upgrade to the 19" wheels in previous years was $1200. The ZCP package is $2500 which includes the wheel upgrade, EDC tune and 10mm suspension kit. In my mind it is worth the extra $1300 to have this option.

I personally am extremely excited to get this car. I am burned out on my 2008 E90 M3 and I can't wait to see the 2011 technology package that is upgraded significantly from my 2008 model.

I am going to have a blast driving this wonderful vehicle! And in 2014, I will be driving the V6 TT M3!
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      02-12-2010, 09:20 PM   #112
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I am burned out on my 2008 E90 M3 and I can't wait to see the 2011 technology package that is upgraded significantly from my 2008 model.
I think your expectations might be a bit overdone and I'd hate for you to be disappointed.

The change in ride height, wheels, and EDC are likely to be somewhat subtle. I just don't see these producing a night/day effect. I'm not saying they aren't worth the "extra" $1,300. If you think you will dip that far down into the car's capability then ZCP is, I agree.

Now if you're talking about the new since-2009 iDrive and Nav then that is night/day.
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      02-12-2010, 09:44 PM   #113
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Not impressed. I rather have IND do the mods.
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      02-12-2010, 10:29 PM   #114
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That's correct.
Excellent! thanks
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      02-12-2010, 10:40 PM   #115
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Not impressed. I rather have IND do the mods.
+1 on an IND inspired competition package. LoL!

They never cease to amaze me with the work they do especially on the M3.
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      02-12-2010, 11:03 PM   #116
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somehow i feel the rims and front splitter just made the car look worse. now it looks like a 335i with some aftermarket add on. anyone think the same?
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      02-12-2010, 11:26 PM   #117
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+100... that will get very old fast

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South - Is this like the M button or fog lights where it resets every time you start the car. I would hate to have to press the M button and now a second button every time I start the car...

Ugh... Hope its not coming to the US. and +1 on the engine wear...

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      02-12-2010, 11:39 PM   #118
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Not feeling it

Splitter, spoiler, wheels, and the extra add-ons are not going to justify a purchase on my behalf.

Thanks for the post!
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      02-13-2010, 12:14 AM   #119
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+1 on an IND inspired competition package. LoL!

They never cease to amaze me with the work they do especially on the M3.
I agree!!!!
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      02-13-2010, 12:41 AM   #120
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I am not feeling the front splitter or rear wing. he only thing that is worth it is the EDc wheels and 10mm lower suspension. I hope BMW has a splitter delete and rear wing delete option. They flat out look Fugly!
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      02-13-2010, 12:55 AM   #121
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What's the point of wider wheels if you are still using the same rubber (245/35)
They wanted to offer the new style, but didn't want a separate casting from the GTS wheel.

Which begs the question, why didn't they just use 265/285 rubber as on the GTS?

Well, apparently (based on what Mark's M has said he was told) there are potential clearance issues. Although, if I recall, he finally convinced them to give him the wider tires. If I got this package or got the wheels aftermarket, I'd definitely go buy some wider rubber. At least 255/275, if not the 265/285.
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      02-13-2010, 01:20 AM   #122
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GTS tire sizes

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They wanted to offer the new style, but didn't want a separate casting from the GTS wheel.

Which begs the question, why didn't they just use 265/285 rubber as on the GTS?

Well, apparently (based on what Mark's M has said he was told) there are potential clearance issues. Although, if I recall, he finally convinced them to give him the wider tires. If I got this package or got the wheels aftermarket, I'd definitely go buy some wider rubber. At least 255/275, if not the 265/285.
The GTS uses 255-35-19 Pirelli P-zero Corsa front and 285-30-19 rear. There is zero fitment issues with this setup using H&R springs.
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      02-13-2010, 01:48 AM   #123
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Like the wheels; don't care for the splitters. One thing I found interesting for the Individual program - "Frozen grey paint finish available for all models of 6-series." This could possibly leave some wiggle room to being able to get Frozen Grey as an Individual color for the regular M3. This would be similar to Brilliant White, which was a standard Individual color for the 6 series, but not for the M3.
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      02-13-2010, 01:49 AM   #124
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They wanted to offer the new style, but didn't want a separate casting from the GTS wheel.

Which begs the question, why didn't they just use 265/285 rubber as on the GTS?

Well, apparently (based on what Mark's M has said he was told) there are potential clearance issues. Although, if I recall, he finally convinced them to give him the wider tires. If I got this package or got the wheels aftermarket, I'd definitely go buy some wider rubber. At least 255/275, if not the 265/285.
And the stretched tires make the fender gap look bigger... defeating the purpose of the 10 mm drop
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      02-13-2010, 03:16 AM   #125
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The GTS uses 255-35-19 Pirelli P-zero Corsa front and 285-30-19 rear. There is zero fitment issues with this setup using H&R springs.
Thanks for the size correction. As for the figment issue, that's fine but you can read Mark's comment here and decide your own interpretation.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=103

As he notes, people add wider tires aftermarket all the time, but modding a car is not the same thing as offering the parts as a factory option. Whatever the reason, I suspect it boils down to something technical in nature.

That said IIRC, Mark eventually convinced them to equip his car with the GTS tires. However, he's basically getting a custom M3 to begin with.

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And the stretched tires make the fender gap look bigger... defeating the purpose of the 10 mm drop
Agreed. I was going to bring that up in my post too. And the other thing is that you have the edges of your wheel sticking out which is begging for scratches or rash, and frankly looks silly.
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      02-13-2010, 03:24 AM   #126
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As a Person who is ordering the 2011 ZCP E92 M3, Im not really feeling the Front Splitters and rear deck lid spoiler as of now, Might grow on me later IDK... But I guess it doesn't matter to me as I'm going to change the Front Bumper and Trunk Lid to the
Vorsteiner Aero Kit so oh well

If BMW was going through the trouble of putting front Splitters on the ZCP Bumper, I just wished they would've put something like the E46 M3 CSL Splitters on there but just freshened up the looks a Lil bit for the E9x... That would've Looked much nicer IMHO. I guess the only thing Ill be keeping on the my ZCP for a bit will be the New ZCP/GTS Wheels but painting them the same color as
the GTS Wheels...

Man I dont know why BMW Couldn't put those 6pot Brakes on the ZCP M3 like they put on the 135tti
I mean Come On BMW, You Couldn't Put These Brakes On the ZCP E9x M3??????

Wow that wouldve been SICK if we got these brakes on the ZCP M3....
I would be MORE then happy to have paid for them coming from the factory.
Guess I have to get brakes but my point is I would love to have seen BMW have it come on the car standard for the ZCP....
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      02-13-2010, 04:34 AM   #127
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Like the wheels; don't care for the splitters. One thing I found interesting for the Individual program - "Frozen grey paint finish available for all models of 6-series." This could possibly leave some wiggle room to being able to get Frozen Grey as an Individual color for the regular M3. This would be similar to Brilliant White, which was a standard Individual color for the 6 series, but not for the M3.
Frozen Gray has been ordered by several M3 owners already. Here's one:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=341015

Frozen Black too:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348757
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Everyone here is forgetting one thing, this option isn't to make the normal M3 look like the GTS, or even drive like it. What it was developed for is to keep the current car competitive against stiffer, newer competition, namely the RS5.

And you know the funny thing, you crave N/A engines so much that on this occasion you are lucky that the RS5 has this very engine, had it got the original engine intented for it these minor tweaks to the M3 would ever had been enough, the gap between them would have called for something beyond this reasonably priced option to something costing more than $10k.
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      02-13-2010, 04:48 AM   #129
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Thankfully, CF splitters and spoiler are not

part of the ZCP package. I don't care for them either, nor do I care for the CF roof, hense I'm getting a moonroof. The CF roof looks OK with certain colors--blue is not one of them, and I'm getting Interlagos Blue. To me the ZCP wheels look great--much more sporty/aggressive than the regular 19's--which, to me, hava a more formal more luxury car oriented appearance and have been around for a long time--they are little changed from the ones I have been driving around on for the past 9 years in my '01 M3.
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Frozen Gray has been ordered by several M3 owners already. Here's one:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=341015

Frozen Black too:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348757
I was thinking those were all "edition" or "limited edition" M3s and not "regular" M3s that were ordered with an Individual color. Too many different special versions of the E9X M3!
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      02-13-2010, 07:23 AM   #131
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I didn't read through all of the posts, but I have a 2011 E92 being built week 12 and having been through the process, I will say this..... the upgrade to the 19" wheels in previous years was $1200. The ZCP package is $2500 which includes the wheel upgrade, EDC tune and 10mm suspension kit. In my mind it is worth the extra $1300 to have this option.
If you are getting the Technology Package, it is priced at $2275 if you are getting the ZCP ($2960 if not), so if you are already planning on going with 19" wheels and the ZTP package, the delta is closer to $500.
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I'have got it. The CF splitters and spoiler are parts of BMW Performance program. The CF spoiler is the one for all the E92/93. The one for E90 is already out since the E90/91 facelift. There are also CF mirror caps for M3 now. But it is really bad that there is no BMW Performance CF Intaike & Manifould as there is for N52 engines. Also no exhaust nor brakes upgrade.
BMW 135i has 6 piston front brakes
BMW 135i Performance has upgraded 6 piston front brakes
BMW M1 will have even larger and stronger 6 piston front brakes
as if a M1 with FI is/will be more a trackable/tracked than a NA M3.
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