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      02-12-2010, 12:21 PM   #23
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They are just carbon fiber flaps, so should just attach to the factory M3 bumper
I wonder how much my local dealer is looking to overcharge me for these pieces
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      02-12-2010, 12:21 PM   #24
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You gotta be kidding me!!!!! Auto start stop function!!!


Ill just stick to a used 08, 09, or 10
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      02-12-2010, 12:24 PM   #25
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Are these the same wheels on the GTS? They look different.
Not feeling the CF pieces from the pics. Gotta see them in person.
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      02-12-2010, 12:40 PM   #26
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      02-12-2010, 12:41 PM   #27
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that colour looks like frozen estoril blue.
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      02-12-2010, 12:44 PM   #28
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You gotta be kidding me!!!!! Auto start stop function!!!


Ill just stick to a used 08, 09, or 10
Why is it bad? it reduces emmissions and increases MPGs!
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      02-12-2010, 12:45 PM   #29
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Good info and that car has plenty of CF to go around = )

I also thought it was sitting a little higher

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Question ZCP wheel sizes - ?

I like the wheels but does that mean the ZCP will come with 19x9 wheels on the front and rear? I thought it was confirmed that the rears were 19x10.

The add-on CF bits look to be nicely done and are guaranteed to match the roof I would imagine. I'm still not sure how I feel about them however. The taillights are growing on me but I won't retrofit without a plug and play harness, which probably isn't realistic.

I like the ZCP wheels and springs so far - I'm sure these will be popular retrofits.
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      02-12-2010, 12:55 PM   #31
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man oh man - I really want to order one of the last real M3s with all performance options and individual color selection
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      02-12-2010, 12:56 PM   #32
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I agree

is it me or does that M3 look like it's sitting higher than normal???
That was my first reaction to the pics as well. It does seem higher to the eye. 10mm lower is not much, but it looks different than I imagined.

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Are these the same wheels on the GTS? They look different.
They look the same, except for the color. I would love to have these painted like the GTS ones.
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Why is it bad? it reduces emmissions and increases MPGs!
i just dont like that idea. this is a sports car. if i wanted that i would get a hybrid.
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      02-12-2010, 12:57 PM   #34
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Love those wheels...

Ordered the competition package largely because I really like the wheels so much better than the other 19"s. The package is obviously mostly just cosmetic. I could actually live without the 1 cm drop--hopefully I won't hit any curbs as a result, but improved handling can't hurt, though I doubt I'll ever push the car hard enough to really notice the difference. I understand that though the wheels are wider, the tires are the same size, so at least there won't be a further penalty price-wise for new rubber. Don't care much for the rear spoiler. The rear lights are OK, not significantly better than the old--suspect they'll look better when you apply the brakes. Auto Start-Stop function is a surprise. Will be interested to see if we really get it in US. I am anxious to see how it works, but if it can be turned off, I'm fine with it. It would be nice if it really did improve gas mileage significantly.

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Hmm.. with auto stop start, does the $1300 gas guzzlers tax still apply?
Very good question. Gotta love those wheels.
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      02-12-2010, 01:04 PM   #36
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Oh Buy, Im a little worried about this one... Has anyone used this in the active hybrids? I dont want my car to trun off at every stop light, and then rev up when I want to go again.

Does anyone know if this function can be deactivated?

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yeah I don't like that
wouldn't that put additional wear on your engine?
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wait start and stop is coming to the US?
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i just dont like that idea. this is a sports car. if i wanted that i would get a hybrid.
If it is offered on US M3's, it sounds like it can be disabled according to post # 8 on the first page. Manufacturers have to meet new mileage and emissions requirements one way or another, sports cars are no exception (see Porsche's 911 hybrid concept). It doesn't seem like it would be a bad thing for regular around town driving.
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      02-12-2010, 01:25 PM   #39
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What is the color? Isn't it Frozen Blue, based on the color of LeMans Blue Metallic?

If not there are still some things I do not like about the M3 LCI:
-No lightweight front seats (BMW Performance)
-No sport exhaust (BMW Performance/ M3 GTS)
-No carbon airbox (BMW Performance/Motorsport)
-No Alcantara
-No LED blinkers and corona rings
I believe the color is Monte Carlo Blue, but not 100% sure I could be wrong.



I think I like the spoiler, need more pictures of it. Not feeling the splitters at all.

I hope there's a reasonable price on people who want to upgrade their EDC programming to the ZCP
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wait start and stop is coming to the US?
We don't know for sure yet. This press release is the International Version, so the US might not see this start/stop feature.

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Oh Buy, Im a little worried about this one... Has anyone used this in the active hybrids? I dont want my car to trun off at every stop light, and then rev up when I want to go again.

Does anyone know if this function can be deactivated?
Yes, it can be deactivated via a button found in the center console (between the heated seat buttons in pre 2010 cars).


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      02-12-2010, 01:42 PM   #41
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Auto start stop

I have heard that leaving an automatic BMW in Sport will also disable the start stop.

Start stop is not bad - from my experience the engine is restarted as soon as you take your foot off the brake - before you can even get it on the accelerator pedal. If you drive an automatic with both feet then you might be in trouble!

Auto start stop will take a dent out of the super-low city MPG on an M3 without making the car any slower.

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Hmm.. with auto stop start, does the $1300 gas guzzlers tax still apply?
I read somewhere that the EPA does not use the Start/Stop feature in their testing and calculations yet...
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New retrofit options: carbon fiber front lip spoilers and rear deck lid spoiler (pictured below)
BMW still hasn't figured out that decorative spoilers went out of style 10 years ago.
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Splitters look weak compared to aftermarket options

Rear spoiler looks OK but CSL trunk looks better

Wheels look WAY too small, like 16"

Car sits awfully high for being 10mm lower

Stop/start feature = lame and hard on the engine
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