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      02-11-2010, 11:02 AM   #23
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As a corpsman myself, I think you may be idealizing our importance to some extent (actually I notice a lot of other corpsmen do this, too - they seem sort of brainwashed to me). Sure, medics of all stripes are indispensable, but to expect the POTUS to know anything about corpsmen (anything at all) - well, that's just wishful thinking. Let's face it, we're small potatoes and just don't get recognized at that level.
Everyone makes mistakes and has peculiarities of speech. I thought people made too big a deal about Bush's slip ups and I think the same thing now. That said, I'm a bit aghast that someone on his staff hasn't noticed and corrected his mistake by now.
You don't have to be a historian of the caliber of Gordon Wood to have a basic understanding on the pronunciation of the word "Corps". Seriously, he has a whole functioning service arm in the military that has that word as part of their name. People would be aghast if he called it the United States Marine "Corpse"

Between the deferential over-bowing to heads of state, blowing off the French President to go on a date night, ducking the Dalai Lama, and his multiple 'Corpse-man' mis-pronounciations just beffudles me what the hell his Protocol Office is doing..
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Granted, it's not a terribly obscure word. It is a bit puzzling that he would have trouble with it.
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If, for the sake of argument I accept your claim that Bush's mispronunciation of nuclear is more likely based on his learning to pronounce it incorrectly or simply a reflection of a regional dialect, we are still left with the fact that it is NOT the result of an unfamiliarity with the word. It also still leaves us with the fact that Obama's continuous mispronunciation of corpsman is.

The outrage is still properly directed only at Obama and his staff.

All you have to offer is a Clintonian-style word parsing as to why you direct your outrage at Obama, while defending Bush up and down?

You started this thread with a comment taking on hypocrites who would attack Bush, but then give Obama a free pass. Now you are turning around and using a Clintonian-style parsing to attack Obama, while giving Bush a free pass!

What exactly ARE your values? Because it appears that you are willing to completely drop your values to suit your political attack of the moment.
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As a corpsman myself, I think you may be idealizing our importance to some extent (actually I notice a lot of other corpsmen do this, too - they seem sort of brainwashed to me). Sure, medics of all stripes are indispensable, but to expect the POTUS to know anything about corpsmen (anything at all) - well, that's just wishful thinking. Let's face it, we're small potatoes and just don't get recognized at that level.
Everyone makes mistakes and has peculiarities of speech. I thought people made too big a deal about Bush's slip ups and I think the same thing now. That said, I'm a bit aghast that someone on his staff hasn't noticed and corrected his mistake by now.
Agreed. What you guys do for us, nobody outside the Navy/Marine Corps or military family in general will fully get and is certainly not something a President who hasn't served, and who's daily tasks involve international affairs, should be expected to know. Medics aren't the ones romanticized in the movies. Hell, I never heard the term "corpsman" until I was 17, shortly after stepping off the yellow footprints at MCRD and coming face to face with one shoving a needle in my.... well YOU know.
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Agreed. What you guys do for us, nobody outside the Navy/Marine Corps or military family in general will fully get and is certainly not something a President who hasn't served, and who's daily tasks involve international affairs, should be expected to know. Medics aren't the ones romanticized in the movies. Hell, I never heard the term "corpsman" until I was 17, shortly after stepping off the yellow footprints at MCRD and coming face to face with one shoving a needle in my.... well YOU know.
+1. I didn't know wtf a corpsman was until I was getting stuck with all sorts of needles at MCRDSD. Regardless, he still needs to fix himself if he is the leader of the military.
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His staff fucked up. He's a dumbass for not knowing. Needs to fix it.
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All you have to offer is a Clintonian-style word parsing as to why you direct your outrage at Obama, while defending Bush up and down?

You started this thread with a comment taking on hypocrites who would attack Bush, but then give Obama a free pass. Now you are turning around and using a Clintonian-style parsing to attack Obama, while giving Bush a free pass!

What exactly ARE your values? Because it appears that you are willing to completely drop your values to suit your political attack of the moment.
Who the hell are you to question my values?

My values are such that a man who leads our armed forces should take sufficient interest in the men and women under his command to become familiar with the basic jobs they perform and the proper pronounciation of their basic terminology.

I also believe that those who called our previous president a moron for simply mispronouncing a word should be just as hard if not harder on this one for mispronouncing a word because he is completely unfamiliar with it.

And if you don't like my values Nixon you can crawl back under your rock
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      02-16-2010, 09:48 AM   #33
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Who the hell are you to question my values?

My values are such that a man who leads our armed forces should take sufficient interest in the men and women under his command to become familiar with the basic jobs they perform and the proper pronounciation of their basic terminology.

I also believe that those who called our previous president a moron for simply mispronouncing a word should be just as hard if not harder on this one for mispronouncing a word because he is completely unfamiliar with it.

And if you don't like my values Nixon you can crawl back under your rock
Man, you're right it is Nixon! Only he would say something like "Clintonian-style word parsing".

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Who the hell are you to question my values?

My values are such that a man who leads our armed forces should take sufficient interest in the men and women under his command to become familiar with the basic jobs they perform and the proper pronounciation of their basic terminology.

I also believe that those who called our previous president a moron for simply mispronouncing a word should be just as hard if not harder on this one for mispronouncing a word because he is completely unfamiliar with it.

And if you don't like my values Nixon you can crawl back under your rock
It wasn't JUST the lack of being able to pronounce words correctly. It was many many things he did that made him look like a moron. The lack of decent speech skills just added to the overall appearance of him being a dunce.

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It wasn't JUST the lack of being able to pronounce words correctly. It was many many things he did that made him look like a moron. The lack of decent speech skills just added to the overall appearance of him being a dunce.
You bought into a media storyline. Obama has done just as many if not more stupid things than Bush did. Did you hear about him trying to enter the Oval Office through a window?



The 'media' loves to portray conservatives as stupid (Reagan, Bush, Palin) while liberals are never stupid no matter how many stupid things they do.

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+1. I didn't know wtf a corpsman was until I was getting stuck with all sorts of needles at MCRDSD. Regardless, he still needs to fix himself if he is the leader of the military.
lol...typical Marine words...
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lol...typical Marine words...
You an 0651?
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You an 0651?
yeah..I am
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yeah..I am
At least I didn't say something like, "..it would behoove Obama..." haha.
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At least I didn't say something like, "..it would behoove Obama..." haha.


why the question about MOS? do I know you?
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why the question about MOS? do I know you?
No, I made the assumption that you were a Marine and confirmed said assumption via MOL. haha.
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No, I made the assumption that you were a Marine and confirmed said assumption via MOL. haha.
ok...kinda creepy..
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Obama=fail. This is just another example.

To be elected to the highest office and mispronounce a term to describe some of the men and women that protect him, on more than one occasion, is not ignorance. It is disrespect.
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ok...kinda creepy..
just utilizing the resources the Corps provided me with...I wanted to see if you were a dude I thought I knew; I recognize the last name.
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