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      02-02-2010, 02:42 AM   #23
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Cool!

So what kind of new rubber are you going to run?

Yeah, I missed out on the runs the other weekend. That was when Pencilgeek added those Video VBOX runs to his thread. The Video VBOX looks pretty sweet! I'll be up for some runs this coming weekend though.

thinking yokohama advan AD08 or Bridgestone RE-11 debating going for 305 or 295...worried about rubbing when driving hard
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thinking yokohama advan AD08 or Bridgestone RE-11 debating going for 305 or 295...worried about rubbing when driving hard
Both of those tires are awesome choices Sam...I think im gonna get more serious about this and just go with 18s with some meaty tires
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So what kind of new rubber are you going to run?

Yeah, I missed out on the runs the other weekend. That was when Pencilgeek added those Video VBOX runs to his thread. The Video VBOX looks pretty sweet! I'll be up for some runs this coming weekend though.
yeah let us know how u do...By the way Congrats on the mag cover
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I'm a fan of anyone who can produce a reliable, well running supercharger setup on the S65, both Gintani and ESS have a handful of cars out there running well, with thousands of miles on them, good stuff. In terms of performance, of course dyno sheets are an excellent start, but mainly they are a tool for tuning. Speedo vids are fun, but they are not exactly accurate, we've seen them from all the vendors, regardless good stuff as well.

However, so far the #'s and results we've seen that matter the most performance wise, IMHO, are these:

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Comparo run VT575 pulled many CLth's on a stock M3 and Roberts RS46/ESS tuned Stroker.

As an enthusiast who likes to go fast, and yes in a straight line, lol, I really appreciate this type of info! Robert, can we please get a Performance DB up? Thanks guys, but I want more!
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I did part of the design already. I even registered www.perfdb.com for the purpose. Just haven't had the time yet. Maybe I'll get some programming time tonight -- as my wife is hosting a bunch of ladies for their monthly self-esteem gambling night...you know...some game of chance with money involved -- but they all go home winners.
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Cool deal, thanks! When are you getting your car back? Can't wait to see how it does.
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I'm a fan of anyone who can produce a reliable, well running supercharger setup on the S65, both Gintani and ESS have a handful of cars out there running well, with thousands of miles on them, good stuff. In terms of performance, of course dyno sheets are an excellent start, but mainly they are a tool for tuning. Speedo vids are fun, but they are not exactly accurate, we've seen them from all the vendors, regardless good stuff as well.

However, so far the #'s and results we've seen that matter the most performance wise, IMHO, are these:

Gintani
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Comparo run - Stage 1 pulled 2-3 cars on a 470whp C63

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Comparo run VT575 pulled many CLth's on a stock M3 and Roberts RS46/ESS tuned Stroker.

As an enthusiast who likes to go fast, and yes in a straight line, lol, I really appreciate this type of info! Robert, can we please get a Performance DB up? Thanks guys, but I want more!
everyone definitely needs to get out there and do more runs! i want to beat DADSC63...on 6speedonline 60-130 list he ran 8.46 sec 60-130
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everyone definitely needs to get out there and do more runs! i want to beat DADSC63...on 6speedonline 60-130 list he ran 8.46 sec 60-130
Is his car faster then Joshs? cause I was under the impression Josh has one of the fastest c63s. He hit 12.0s in the 1/4 mile at Famoso. Im not sure but maybe even 11.9.
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I'm a fan of anyone who can produce a reliable, well running supercharger setup on the S65, both Gintani and ESS have a handful of cars out there running well, with thousands of miles on them, good stuff. In terms of performance, of course dyno sheets are an excellent start, but mainly they are a tool for tuning. Speedo vids are fun, but they are not exactly accurate, we've seen them from all the vendors, regardless good stuff as well.

However, so far the #'s and results we've seen that matter the most performance wise, IMHO, are these:

Gintani
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Comparo run VT575 pulled many CLth's on a stock M3 and Roberts RS46/ESS tuned Stroker.

As an enthusiast who likes to go fast, and yes in a straight line, lol, I really appreciate this type of info! Robert, can we please get a Performance DB up? Thanks guys, but I want more!
Yup, times and comparo runs are the best way to get an idea of how fast a car is IMO. Dont forget Ive also pulled 2-3 cars on a 996tt with exhaust.
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Is his car faster then Joshs? cause I was under the impression Josh has one of the fastest c63s. He hit 12.0s in the 1/4 mile at Famoso. Im not sure but maybe even 11.9.
Dad's C63 has the best performance #'s from what I've seen. He's in the low 11's in the 1/4 mile, as Sam posted mid 8's 60-130, and is making 500+whp all motor. Josh has ran with or pulled on some fast cars, but we need to run Josh's C63 60-130, at Famoso he was on street tires, with DR's he's in the 11's easily.
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Some of you guys will definitely have faster 60-130 times once you get some good tires and great weather. I am only trapping 124mph in perfect conditions in the 1/4 mile.

The only benefit I can see between the two cars is I only have one gear change 60-130. I start in 3rd and top out 4th. I am sure that only having one change definitely makes a difference when we are only talking fractions of a second. Good luck and be safe!!

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Some of you guys will definitely have faster 60-130 times once you get some good tires and great weather. I am only trapping 124mph in perfect conditions in the 1/4 mile.

The only benefit I can see between the two cars is I only have one gear change 60-130. I start in 3rd and top out 4th. I am sure that only having one change definitely makes a difference when we are only talking fractions of a second. Good luck and be safe!!

They are both great cars!!

no doubt are both great cars, i wasnt heading in that direction, just jealous that your car is that fast NA! and i got a blower!

you truly got an amazing c63, mazel tov!

anyone the the max speed of each gear for the m3? maybe better to start in 3rd?
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no doubt are both great cars, i wasnt heading in that direction, just jealous that your car is that fast NA! and i got a blower!

you truly got an amazing c63, mazel tov!

anyone the the max speed of each gear for the m3? maybe better to start in 3rd?
Sammy the DCT shifts so fast I don't think it will help starting in 3rd, but next time out let's give it a try, you do need to start accelerating earlier than 50 though.

Agreed on Keith's C63 beast, outstanding and he is a very cool cat as well.
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Thanks for the kudo's Sammy,
We really are having fun with this car. Its ridiculous at times but fun.
We have to put a 6 point cage in it so we don't get run off from the tracks anymore. SUCKS!!

How many gears do you have?? I don't know anything about the M3 tranny.
We have seven speeds and I think thats an advantage down low.

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Thanks for the kind words. Its all good competition and support. I was seriously looking into getting a good used M3 or M5 and trying to put together a good package. I personally think the cars look great!

All you west coast guys need to make a road trip and we'll run together sometime.
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Thanks for the kudo's Sammy,
We really are having fun with this car. Its ridiculous at times but fun.
We have to put a 6 point cage in it so we don't get run off from the tracks anymore. SUCKS!!

How many gears do you have?? I don't know anything about the M3 tranny.
We have seven speeds and I think thats an advantage down low.

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6 point cage...now thats my kinda car. Thats gonna b sick in a Benz. I dont think Ive ever seen a cage in a Benz before.
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Dad's C63 has the best performance #'s from what I've seen. He's in the low 11's in the 1/4 mile, as Sam posted mid 8's 60-130, and is making 500+whp all motor. Josh has ran with or pulled on some fast cars, but we need to run Josh's C63 60-130, at Famoso he was on street tires, with DR's he's in the 11's easily.
Sounds like a very fast car then. We should set up a Mexico run with him.
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Thanks for the kudo's Sammy,
We really are having fun with this car. Its ridiculous at times but fun.
We have to put a 6 point cage in it so we don't get run off from the tracks anymore. SUCKS!!

How many gears do you have?? I don't know anything about the M3 tranny.
We have seven speeds and I think thats an advantage down low.

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I'm a 7 speed dual clutch
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I'm a fan of anyone who can produce a reliable, well running supercharger setup on the S65, both Gintani and ESS have a handful of cars out there running well, with thousands of miles on them, good stuff. In terms of performance, of course dyno sheets are an excellent start, but mainly they are a tool for tuning. Speedo vids are fun, but they are not exactly accurate, we've seen them from all the vendors, regardless good stuff as well.

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As an enthusiast who likes to go fast, and yes in a straight line, lol, I really appreciate this type of info! Robert, can we please get a Performance DB up? Thanks guys, but I want more!
In response to your questions here, I have a couple of my own. You say that ESS and Gintani have a handful of cars out there with thousands of miles on them? I have heard of several ESS customer installs, all over the globe, but only one or two customer installs for Gintani. Is this true?

Also, please let me know what kind of runs, times or other items you would like and I try to get these up as soon as I can. I am with you that the more out there about all the kits the better, so I am trying to do my part here!

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In response to your questions here, I have a couple of my own. You say that ESS and Gintani have a handful of cars out there with thousands of miles on them? I have heard of several ESS customer installs, all over the globe, but only one or two customer installs for Gintani. Is this true?
i know 3 cars running around...and 2 being worked on.... but i also know of 3 or 4 ess cars, maybe theres a couple more. I dont want to turn this thread in to some competition of whos got more cars out there. There is enough bickering on this forum, not into it. Not saying thats what you were doing but can easily see shit head that way.

If you got some 60-130 data, put it up. or you got some ideas on how to get some better times, let me know!
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i know 3 cars running around...and 2 being worked on.... but i also only know of 3 or 4 ess cars, maybe theres a couple more. I dont want to turn this thread in to some stupid competition. If you got some 60-130 data, put it up. or you got some constructive ideas on how to get some better times, let me know!
DLSJ5 mentioned that both Gintani and ESS had a handful of customers and I did not know of a handful of Gintani customers. That was all I was referring to. I only know of you and Niterider. I don't want to create a "stupid competition" either.

As for the "constructive ideas", I was asking DLSJ5 exactly what I could provide to help satisfy his request. I do not have any VBOX times, but that will change this weekend. I will post up whatever I run with the VBOX too. As for a drag strip times/slips, I will try to get out there too and post up.

Bottom line, we both love our cars and it seems that everyone wants to compare to the nth degree. I am only asking how to help satisfy their cravings as I love driving the car, regardless of who is faster.
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Aight...well hit it up this weekend and good luck! Watch out for starting at the top of 2nd gear..can be too much wheel spin(what I did)..want to start for low in rpm range in 2nd and hold on
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