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      03-05-2010, 08:48 PM   #23
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I wouldn't worry about it. You're competing with the fact that about 70 sets of these have sold on this forum in the last 6 months, which is pretty high volume for wheels in this price range. The demand has been temporarily satisfied.

Give it another 6 months, and the market for RACs will likely be pretty hot, once they're not available any other way.
Thanks guys. That makes sense. I think offering them for the GB price is a fair deal for forum members you might have missed out. You'll be surprised at the low ball offers I'm getting.
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what you paid is fair, if your not in a rush then wait like the others said and once people can't get them you know how it goes you want what you can't have lol

if your in a rush then you may have to deal with the lowballers unfortantly
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what you paid is fair, if your not in a rush then wait like the others said and once people can't get them you know how it goes you want what you can't have lol

if your in a rush then you may have to deal with the lowballers unfortantly
Definitely.
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Good luck either way they are sweet wheels for sure
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      03-11-2010, 01:53 AM   #27
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      03-11-2010, 02:37 AM   #28
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Cant believe you still got these at your house, bump for a great guy and a great set of wheels
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Michael,

Here's what you do:

1) Take down this listing for now.
2) In about 6-8 weeks everyone will be posting pictures of their newly acquired RG63 wheels, in between all of the high fives and flowing champagne, in the second GB thread.
3) That thread will be full of new people asking how they can get in on the party.
4) Most will be devastated to know that one simply does not purchase the RG63 at a store or through a web site, and that the ship carrying said wheels has, in all likelihood, sailed (forever).
5) You come into the picture and reply with the fact that you have an extra set for sale.
6) ???
7) Profit.
8) I get 15% of the net proceeds.

You're welcome.
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Yes these wheels are beautiful.. I have a set of Dymag's on my E93 M3 and I may even like these better!
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where can i get a set, and how do these compare to the HRE P40 wheels?
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      03-16-2010, 09:51 AM   #32
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where can i get a set, and how do these compare to the HRE P40 wheels?
At this point, you can only buy them from someone who participated in the first group buy, of which only 2-3 sets are for sale out of 50 produced. A second group buy of 20 sets was just ordered, which should arrive sometime this summer, and RAC has announced they will not do a 3rd run.

Both these RACs and the P40 are forged, but the RACs are 8T forged vs. 4T for the P40s. I believe the P40s also weigh 4-5lbs. more per wheel. HREs are also more expensive, and you're paying for a prestige name. RAC has a long history with BMW-M cars, and they did a highly regarded version for the E46 M3. They also did an incredibly light racing wheel for the Lotus Elise/Exige.

By the tech specs, these RACs are superior, and meet the highest certification standards in the wheel industry (JWL). However, there's no question HRE monoblocks are also quality wheels. Google Champion and Neez wheels, to learn a little more, and keep in mind the RACs are made in the same factory with the same process.

If you're at all interested in learning how the RACs came into being, here's 177 pages of reading material that will keep you busy for awhile.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...&highlight=RAC
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where can i get a set, and how do these compare to the HRE P40 wheels?
You can buy the RAC's from Ralph Shepard (at retail price - $5K+) as he has a few extra sets from the 2 group buys, or you can buy them from an owner here. PM Ralph at R A C Monolites shep01 to inquire about a retail purchase.

Here is a link with a detail discussion of after market wheel manufacturing by Lemans Blue M. He was addressing Dinan wheels vs. HRE specifically, but he talks about TANEISHA in detail and states that they also make the RAC wheels: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...3&postcount=14. NEEZ, CHAMPION, OZ RACING, Dinan, and RAC MONOLITES wheels are top of the market high performance wheels. HRE wheels are well made and very effectively marketed.

Edit: foosh beat me to it. Oh well! You notice, we say pretty much the same thing.
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If these wheels are so rare. How would one get a replacement for a damaged(beyond repair) wheel?
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If these wheels are so rare. How would one get a replacement for a damaged(beyond repair) wheel?
you don't or buy 4 wheels from a private party
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      03-17-2010, 08:31 AM   #36
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If these wheels are so rare. How would one get a replacement for a damaged(beyond repair) wheel?
Design, materials, and construction of the wheel make them very resistant to damage. If one is damaged it will likely be bent and be readily repairable by straightening. Shep does have a few extras if a wheel can't be repaired. Buried in the group buy post Shep has addressed repairs. I recall that he said that only one wheel (or possibly 2) of all those has designed and sold (as RAC's) has been so damaged that it could not be repaired.
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Design, materials, and construction of the wheel make them very resistant to damage. If one is damaged it will likely be bent and be readily repairable by straightening. Shep does have a few extras if a wheel can't be repaired. Buried in the group buy post Shep has addressed repairs. I recall that he said that only one wheel (or possibly 2) of all those has designed and sold (as RAC's) has been so damaged that it could not be repaired.
Correct, and to briefly elaborate it's very tough to destroy (beyond repair) an 8T forged wheel without totalling the car along with it. Cosmetic stuff is a different issue, and easily repaired.

It's pretty easy to destroy the run-of-the-mill stuff that's often offered advertised on this forum. Many don't understand what they are buying when making wheel choices, other than whether they look good or not.
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      03-17-2010, 12:11 PM   #38
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Found the Repair Statement By Shep

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Design, materials, and construction of the wheel make them very resistant to damage. If one is damaged it will likely be bent and be readily repairable by straightening. Shep does have a few extras if a wheel can't be repaired. Buried in the group buy post Shep has addressed repairs. I recall that he said that only one wheel (or possibly 2) of all those has designed and sold (as RAC's) has been so damaged that it could not be repaired.
It is in the 2nd group buy thread here: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...3&postcount=37. The risk of unrepairable damage is pretty low.
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      03-19-2010, 01:31 AM   #39
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      03-27-2010, 02:03 AM   #41
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      04-10-2010, 12:05 PM   #43
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