BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > M3 (E90 / E92 / E93) > M3 Photos/Video/Media Gallery
 
PYSPEED
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      01-11-2010, 05:13 PM   #1
Thorney
Enlisted Member
Thorney's Avatar
United Kingdom
4
Rep
37
Posts

 
Drives: E92 GT3
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Milton Keynes, UK

iTrader: (0)

Send a message via MSN to Thorney
BMW Performance Seats into an E92 M3

Saw a few posts about it and thought I'd share how to do it. Here they are in a customers car:



Full write up is here:

http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/e..._Seating.shtml

Pain the neck to fit but really suit the car perfectly.
Appreciate 0
      01-11-2010, 05:15 PM   #2
TheKosherStogie
Lieutenant Colonel
TheKosherStogie's Avatar
United_States
46
Rep
1,619
Posts

 
Drives: 08 M3 DCT AW/Red
Join Date: May 2009
Location: West Hollywood

iTrader: (1)

gorgeous
__________________
C6 CORVETTE ZR1
BW C13 - 1:53:7
E92 M3 ZCP
KW CS w/Rs3 - WSIR 1:32:8 / BW C13 1:59:2
APR Wing/Rs3 - WSIR 1:30:9 / BW C13 1:57:7
Appreciate 0
      01-11-2010, 05:16 PM   #3
Green///Hell
Colonel
Green///Hell's Avatar
United_States
37
Rep
2,675
Posts

 
Drives: E92 M3 6MT AW
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney/Chicago

iTrader: (5)

Yeah the seats are super easy to install in the Euro cars since you guys don't have to deal with the occupancy sensor in the passenger seat
We will get an airbag and seatbelt warning light on dash and in the iDrive

In my car I ran the OCS3 module with my Pole Positions, but the problem is the passengers airbag is turned off completely which I find dangerous
__________________
Appreciate 0
      01-11-2010, 05:24 PM   #4
TTBear
Lieutenant
TTBear's Avatar
Canada
24
Rep
578
Posts

 
Drives: '09 LP560, '14 M235i, '12 X6M
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Canada

iTrader: (6)

'Oleee sheeeeeeet..........


Do want.
__________________
"Anima sana in corpore sano"
Appreciate 0
      01-11-2010, 05:26 PM   #5
FStop7
I like cars
FStop7's Avatar
Vatican City State
96
Rep
5,059
Posts

 
Drives: M6
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Newbury Park, CA

iTrader: (3)

Meh, the effectiveness of airbags in savings lives isn't exactly well defined. The one thing that is known for certain is that they do almost nothing to make you safer if you're not wearing your seatbelt.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      01-11-2010, 05:26 PM   #6
Thorney
Enlisted Member
Thorney's Avatar
United Kingdom
4
Rep
37
Posts

 
Drives: E92 GT3
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Milton Keynes, UK

iTrader: (0)

Send a message via MSN to Thorney
Quote:
Originally Posted by Panda///Monic View Post
Yeah the seats are super easy to install in the Euro cars since you guys don't have to deal with the occupancy sensor in the passenger seat
We will get an airbag and seatbelt warning light on dash and in the iDrive

In my car I ran the OCS3 module with my Pole Positions, but the problem is the passengers airbag is turned off completely which I find dangerous
Sadly we do, pita to fit as each sensor has to be de-programmed then programmed back up one by one, in the UK several dealers have given up (even with dealer tools) and we're the first and only independent to successfully instal them, and that needed another 8k upgrade to our BMW diagnostic software! Its the little things, like the mirrors working and disabling the correct seat belt helper, bloody high speed canbus!
Appreciate 0
      01-11-2010, 06:01 PM   #7
BROCHOP
Captain
BROCHOP's Avatar
United_States
6
Rep
640
Posts

 
Drives: YMB M4
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: South Florida

iTrader: (0)

I feel as though those are the seats that should have come in the M3. Especially for that massive price tag. They look perfect, enjoy them!
__________________
Current: '15 Yas Marina Blue F82 M4 Coupe/Loaded with no CCB
Gone: '11 E92 335is DCT Blk Sph /Oyster/Every Option
Gone: '05 E46 330iZHP Jet Blk/Natural Brown Too many Mods to list.
Appreciate 0
      01-11-2010, 06:51 PM   #8
FStop7
I like cars
FStop7's Avatar
Vatican City State
96
Rep
5,059
Posts

 
Drives: M6
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Newbury Park, CA

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by xtose92 View Post
I feel as though those are the seats that should have come in the M3. Especially for that massive price tag. They look perfect, enjoy them!
The OEM M3 seats are barely worthy of the car, definitely the biggest weakness
__________________
Appreciate 0
      01-11-2010, 06:52 PM   #9
tom @ eas
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
tom @ eas's Avatar
United_States
328
Rep
10,632
Posts


 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Anaheim, CA

iTrader: (13)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thorney View Post
Sadly we do, pita to fit as each sensor has to be de-programmed then programmed back up one by one, in the UK several dealers have given up (even with dealer tools) and we're the first and only independent to successfully instal them, and that needed another 8k upgrade to our BMW diagnostic software! Its the little things, like the mirrors working and disabling the correct seat belt helper, bloody high speed canbus!
The Retrofit path specifies to code the Performance Seats as "Sport Seats" which is available using DIS or autologic. This is the only way these seats can be coded properly. I'm not aware of how a module or sensor can be "deprogrammed".

US vehicles have different set of standards for OC3 monitoring, whereas the seats won't code properly in our vehicles without the OC3 module or simply dealing with the error messages.

I agree with the cost of proper programming tools, they're not cheap.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      01-11-2010, 07:39 PM   #10
bavarian19
General
bavarian19's Avatar
United_States
235
Rep
18,815
Posts

 
Drives: Car
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: VA

iTrader: (23)

Nice seats!
Appreciate 0
      01-11-2010, 10:48 PM   #11
rzm3
Moderator
rzm3's Avatar
224
Rep
4,603
Posts

 
Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: USA

iTrader: (14)

Quote:
Originally Posted by tom @ eas View Post
The Retrofit path specifies to code the Performance Seats as "Sport Seats" which is available using DIS or autologic. This is the only way these seats can be coded properly. I'm not aware of how a module or sensor can be "deprogrammed".

US vehicles have different set of standards for OC3 monitoring, whereas the seats won't code properly in our vehicles without the OC3 module or simply dealing with the error messages.

I agree with the cost of proper programming tools, they're not cheap.
Yup, and the '09+ cars have active head restraints, which is another PITA....
__________________
E92 M3 DCT - AiM EVO4 Data Logger / AiM SmartyCam HD / KW Competition 2-Way / OMP ARS Racing Seats / Brembo GT 365 / Pagid Yellow RS-29 / Rear Seats Delete
Appreciate 0
      01-11-2010, 11:53 PM   #12
michaeldorian
Captain
United_States
26
Rep
964
Posts

 
Drives: Beater Nissan Truck
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Seattle, WA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by rldzhao View Post
Yup, and the '09+ cars have active head restraints, which is another PITA....
It really sucks. The problem seems so simple to solve, but it appears no one has been able to produce a fix/module or a work around.

I would think if someone produces a working solution that emulates active headrest and OC3 with airbag on or selectable, there's some money to be made.

I know I'll pay 500+ for a working solution. What a darn pity this is.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2010, 12:02 AM   #13
CarbonFiberKreations
Lieutenant
CarbonFiberKreations's Avatar
9
Rep
471
Posts

 
Drives: m3
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: florida

iTrader: (0)

Those seats look beautiful...
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2010, 12:13 AM   #14
KANdaddy
Lieutenant Colonel
KANdaddy's Avatar
44
Rep
1,709
Posts

 
Drives: 2013 Estoril 328i M Sport
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Cali

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaeldorian View Post
It really sucks. The problem seems so simple to solve, but it appears no one has been able to produce a fix/module or a work around.

I would think if someone produces a working solution that emulates active headrest and OC3 with airbag on or selectable, there's some money to be made.

I know I'll pay 500+ for a working solution. What a darn pity this is.
ditto
__________________
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2010, 12:19 AM   #15
OC ///M
Dr. Octagon
OC ///M's Avatar
United_States
26
Rep
1,820
Posts

 
Drives: Moonstone e92 M3
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: So Cal

iTrader: (0)

I'm curious as to the specific weight difference vs. OEM. I know the stocks are super heavy with the multiple motors.
__________________
OC ///M

2013 E92 M3 Individual
Sold: 2011 E92 M3 SSII | Sold: 2008 E92 M3 SSII | Into a Wall: 2008 E92 M3 SSII | Sold: 2007 E92 335i JB
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2010, 12:40 AM   #16
tom @ eas
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
tom @ eas's Avatar
United_States
328
Rep
10,632
Posts


 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Anaheim, CA

iTrader: (13)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by OC kid View Post
I'm curious as to the specific weight difference vs. OEM. I know the stocks are super heavy with the multiple motors.
Performance Seats are 5lbs heaver than OEM.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2010, 12:48 AM   #17
doba_s
Major General
doba_s's Avatar
United_States
149
Rep
6,099
Posts

 
Drives: M3, 1M
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: San Francisco

iTrader: (26)

Send a message via Skype™ to doba_s
seats look great !
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2010, 01:28 AM   #18
aus
Major General
118
Rep
7,420
Posts

 
Drives: Odysse
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Seal Beach, CA

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by tom @ eas View Post
Performance Seats are 5lbs heaver than OEM.
So they have no power adjustments, the air bags won't work AND you get a warning light?
__________________
Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2010, 01:51 AM   #19
OC ///M
Dr. Octagon
OC ///M's Avatar
United_States
26
Rep
1,820
Posts

 
Drives: Moonstone e92 M3
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: So Cal

iTrader: (0)

'Performance' Seats

Quote:
Originally Posted by tom @ eas View Post
Performance Seats are 5lbs heaver than OEM.
Quote:
Originally Posted by aus View Post
So they have no power adjustments, the air bags won't work AND you get a warning light?
Don't get me wrong, the Perf. seats look beautiful and snug, and the current seats we're stuck with (esp. the stateside version) are lacking at best, but I must admit, ordering the performance seats just slipped a few notches on the priority list. The weight gain was news to me. I thought by losing all of the ancillary crap the "performance" upgrade would net a bit more of a weight reduction. Now it seems that Advantages < Disadvantages...
__________________
OC ///M

2013 E92 M3 Individual
Sold: 2011 E92 M3 SSII | Sold: 2008 E92 M3 SSII | Into a Wall: 2008 E92 M3 SSII | Sold: 2007 E92 335i JB
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2010, 01:59 AM   #20
Maseroche
Major
Maseroche's Avatar
Bahrain
15
Rep
1,402
Posts

 
Drives: '08 BMW M3
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Bahrain

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 BMW M3  [0.00]
Do these seats sit lower in the car? My main gripe is that I'm sitting way to high for my liking.
__________________
Khalid
'08 BMW M3


Appreciate 0
      01-12-2010, 02:57 AM   #21
leeor
Banned
United_States
53
Rep
2,393
Posts

 
Drives: 2010 Blue Prius III
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (4)

looks real sweet, i wouldent mind getting those
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2010, 03:11 AM   #22
KadeSdad
Colonel
KadeSdad's Avatar
42
Rep
2,072
Posts

 
Drives: E350 CDI Sport Cabriolet
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: UK

iTrader: (3)

Hi John

They look great, would love a set in mine!

I need you to remap my car John www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332870 we spoke in December if you remember?

Marcus
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:39 AM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST