BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > M3 (E90 / E92 / E93) > General M3 Forum (E90 + E92 + E93)
 
Strasse Wheels
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-06-2011, 02:05 AM   #1
ZeroFear
New Member
2
Rep
10
Posts

Drives: m5
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: florida

iTrader: (0)

Test drives for expensive cars

How many of you guys were allowed to test drive an M3 or other high end expensive car before buying? I've been looking around to purchase another toy and all the dealers are really uptight about test drives. Do you have to be like 65 years old and wearing a suit to get a test drive?
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2011, 02:14 AM   #2
Sean Alexander
Long-term Enthusiast
Sean Alexander's Avatar
United_States
1
Rep
95
Posts

Drives: '14 Porsche Cayman S
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Irvine, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to Sean Alexander
Yes, you have to be, LIKE, 65 or something.

I've been test driving and buying Corvettes, 911s and M3s since 1995, when I was 26. The trick is to be respectful, professional and not seeming desperate to take a ride in something. Ask relevant questions, discuss a couple options / color selections, etc... then casually ask if you and the salesperson could take a ride in one. Sounding and acting like a real buyer goes a loooong way. Driving up in a nice car, wearing decent clothes and perhaps having a nice watch on your wrist do help a bit, but can only take you so-far. Your mouth and eyes have to do the rest.
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2011, 02:15 AM   #3
geneatals
Ninja
geneatals's Avatar
Philippines
50
Rep
3,221
Posts

Drives: 2011.5 E90 M3
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: So Cal (SFV)

iTrader: (2)

^this
__________________
2011.5 E90 M3 AW l Black Novillo Leather | Carbon Fiber Leather Trim | ZCP | ZP2 | M-DCT | Navigation | Moonroof | 6FL l Pics/Mods
Retired: 2008 535i l AW l Black Dakota Leather l Bamboo Anthracite l ZPP l ZSP l 6FL
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2011, 02:29 AM   #4
M3Bahn
Lieutenant
M3Bahn's Avatar
80
Rep
487
Posts

Drives: M3
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: ATL

iTrader: (0)

I just test drove an M3 with 5 miles on it alone, it all depends on your relationship with the dealer if they already know you or if you have bought cars from them before. I never even asked to test drive it just wanted to take a look at color etc and they offered it up.
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2011, 02:41 AM   #5
kibosh
Private First Class
kibosh's Avatar
United_States
1
Rep
117
Posts

Drives: 2011.5 E92
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Seattle

iTrader: (0)

if you drive an M5 like your profile says, you should have no trouble getting a test drive in an M3. Unless you have a really up tight dealer, or they are just asses. In either case, your best bet would be to find another dealer.

Also, check this thread
__________________
2011.5 E92
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2011, 03:00 AM   #6
buymenow00
New Member
0
Rep
26
Posts

Drives: 2011.5 M3 E90 Alpine/Black
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (0)

I had no problems test driving an M3 at any dealer. But I was refused a drive in a Mercedes E63...I was allowed to sit in it with engine running. The MB dealer said their policy was because buyers of these cars like them with as few miles as possible...hmmm.
__________________
Current: 2011.5 E90 M3 - DCT - ZCP - Alpine White/Black

Retired: 2005 330i ZHP / 2007 M Coupe / 2003 M5 / 2001 530i/5 / 1992 325i / 1981 320iS
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2011, 05:30 AM   #7
E. Honda
Private First Class
E. Honda's Avatar
United_States
2
Rep
178
Posts

Drives: 2007 Nissan 350Z
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: West LA/UCLA

iTrader: (0)

I took a 2011 IB E93 M3 for a spin by myself, courtesy of the dealer. That would be because of the relationship I have with them though.
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2011, 07:03 AM   #8
mr_yogi
Lieutenant
United_States
9
Rep
487
Posts

Drives: Success
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Atlanta, GA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeroFear View Post
How many of you guys were allowed to test drive an M3 or other high end expensive car before buying? I've been looking around to purchase another toy and all the dealers are really uptight about test drives. Do you have to be like 65 years old and wearing a suit to get a test drive?
Word on the street (or at least these forums) is that florida dealers are really uptight.
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2011, 10:43 AM   #9
SchnellM3
Digger
SchnellM3's Avatar
United_States
66
Rep
2,613
Posts

Drives: 03 E46 M3, 09 E92 M3, 09 X6 50
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Pa

iTrader: (5)

Garage List
I remember back when the NSX first came out I wanted one so bad. I went to the dealer and they had the exact color that I wanted. I went in did the usual chatting about the car and explaining how I will write them a check that day for the car all I want to do is test drive it first. They wouldn't let me drive it. I explained I don't even need to leave the lot, just drive around and they wouldn't budge. I drove by looking at that car in the show room for 3 more months until they sold it
__________________
2009 E92 M3 /// Melbourne Red /// Fox Red /// M DKG

Full Innotech Exhaust - DINAN Intake - IND Engine Bay Appearance - IND Hand Stitched Boot Covers - and much more....
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2011, 10:55 AM   #10
mike33176
Lieutenant
United_States
12
Rep
432
Posts

Drives: 09 Jerez/ Black, E90 M3
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Miami

iTrader: (1)

Send a message via ICQ to mike33176
I go out and test drive every new car that I want to. What I do is print my credit report from that day(I have access to it thru one of the credit monitoring sites) and bring it in. I'm 40 and with a 792 middle score and very good income, they'll let you drive anything if you appear to be a serious buyer. For an example, I drove a 2011 Porsche GT3 RS on Friday. What a fantastic car. Fake like you're a serious buyer and if you do what I do and, if you're not in your 20's, they'll let you drive about anything you want to.
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2011, 10:59 AM   #11
ksoze
Captain
ksoze's Avatar
United_States
16
Rep
620
Posts

Drives: 2011 E93 M3
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Maryland

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SchnellM3 View Post
I remember back when the NSX first came out I wanted one so bad. I went to the dealer and they had the exact color that I wanted. I went in did the usual chatting about the car and explaining how I will write them a check that day for the car all I want to do is test drive it first. They wouldn't let me drive it. I explained I don't even need to leave the lot, just drive around and they wouldn't budge. I drove by looking at that car in the show room for 3 more months until they sold it
The NSX pre-release frenzy was unreal. The Acura dealers had full waiting lists six months in advance. Tests drives were the drive home for a lucky buyer and any cars that stayed at a dealer were behind ropes..

I had the luck of having a friend get the # 1 spot at both local Acrura dealers. He then pre-sold both cars months before taking delivery and made mad coin. I also had the luck of being asked to drive home one from the dealer before it was shipped to the buyer - that was a nice drive!
__________________
2011.75 E93 JB/FR | 2002 E46 M3 Convertible | 2002 E53 X5 3.0 | 2000 E39 540i | 1998 E36 M3 | 1988 E28 M5 | 1987 E28 528i
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2011, 11:11 AM   #12
jmflukeiii
Captain
9
Rep
727
Posts

Drives: 2011 Jet Black M3 ZCP Coupe
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Tampa, FL

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Alexander View Post
Yes, you have to be, LIKE, 65 or something.

I've been test driving and buying Corvettes, 911s and M3s since 1995, when I was 26. The trick is to be respectful, professional and not seeming desperate to take a ride in something. Ask relevant questions, discuss a couple options / color selections, etc... then casually ask if you and the salesperson could take a ride in one. Sounding and acting like a real buyer goes a loooong way. Driving up in a nice car, wearing decent clothes and perhaps having a nice watch on your wrist do help a bit, but can only take you so-far. Your mouth and eyes have to do the rest.
I didn't even have to ask, in fact I wasn't even planning on taking a drive. The salesman was the one who suggested it and it was more than a suggestion, it was more of "we are going to go do a test drive now". I'm 26 now, but run my own business and act as such; Rolex, LV shoes, and nice clothes probably help as well. Also, Its their job to judge whether the person in front of them is an actual buyer or not. Maybe it was just too easy to tell that I was definitely going to buy the car.
__________________
2011.5 E92 M3 Jet Black, DCT, Competition, Premium 2, and Convenience Packages, Black Novillo, Enhanced Premium Sound, 15% Tint, Black Kidneys/Reflectors/Gills/Roundels, DINAN Full Exhaust, DINAN Tune.
2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Black everything.
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2011, 11:12 AM   #13
CalgaryX3
Lieutenant
Canada
8
Rep
557
Posts

Drives: 2007 E90 335i / 2011 E90 M3
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Calgary, Alberta Canada

iTrader: (0)

Nope..nadda. Never had an issue here. The only exception was my S2000 which I purchased without a test drive. Those things were like gold for our local Honda dealers-prospective customers weren't even able to sit in the demo models which were roped off (and usually presold) in the showrooms.

A
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2011, 12:12 PM   #14
ES_TRADER
Colonel
114
Rep
2,889
Posts

Drives: 328i, 335i, M3, 535i, X5, 36M
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: OC

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2014 Ford Raptor  [0.00]
2012 328i E92  [5.00]
2013 X5  [0.00]
2013 335i F30  [4.00]
1990 Toyota Previa  [0.00]
1997 E36 M3  [5.00]
2011 E92 M3  [0.00]
2011 535i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmflukeiii View Post

I didn't even have to ask, in fact I wasn't even planning on taking a drive. The salesman was the one who suggested it and it was more than a suggestion, it was more of "we are going to go do a test drive now". I'm 26 now, but run my own business and act as such; Rolex, LV shoes, and nice clothes probably help as well. Also, Its their job to judge whether the person in front of them is an actual buyer or not. Maybe it was just too easy to tell that I was definitely going to buy the car.
Sometimes the most unsuspecting customer is the person who buys the car, not the guy decked out in Italian clothes wearing diamond crusted Swiss watches. Because of this, I made it a point specifically to drive up in 20 year old Toyota wearing beat up jeans and old t shirts for all my test drives. Never had a problem at 6 dealerships I went to except for one salesman who refused a test drive but all it took was for me to say "get me your manager right now."

I think the best salesman don't judge buyers by their cars or clothes etc. Because they treat everyone equally with the same amount of courtesy and they are the ones that win the deal.
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2011, 12:14 PM   #15
Radiation Joe
Veni Vidi Vici
Radiation Joe's Avatar
United_States
39
Rep
2,749
Posts

Drives: '11 JB/BBe-6sp-e90
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Macungie PA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2011 e90 M3-Sold  [4.25]
2003 RS6 - Sold  [0.00]
2009 e90 M3 - Gone  [0.00]
2003 M3 SOLD  [0.00]
old 2002  [5.00]
When I was 23 I had the Chevy salesman hold my martini while I test drove a Corvette. All perfectly legal at the time. I was wearing jeans and old cowboy boots at the time.
__________________

Dinan compliment of stuff plus PF rotors and RG63s. Enough for now.
Why, yes. I am an abrasive bastard.
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2011, 12:52 PM   #16
avalon652
Private
avalon652's Avatar
0
Rep
76
Posts

Drives: 2008 AW M3 Coupe (MT)
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Portland, OR

iTrader: (0)

It all comes down to the dealer...when I bought my first m3 I was driving within 10 minutes with no issue. I was looking for an x5 for my wife at a different dealer (because mine didn't have a v8 to test drive) and they had no interest in even speaking to us (even though we rolled up in my e92). I'm 27 and am usually in jeans and tshirt...occasionally with a nice watch...I guess they could feel the competitors vibe off me
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2011, 01:03 PM   #17
Serious
1M advocate
Serious's Avatar
United_States
9
Rep
773
Posts

Drives: 2007 RS4. 2012 S1000RR
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Seattle

iTrader: (0)

3 step process to get a guaranteed teat drive.

1. Be male
2. Call a day ahead and make an appointment
3. Show up in relatively nice clothes (not necessarily a suit)
__________________
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2011, 01:26 PM   #18
ns2000x
Converted
ns2000x's Avatar
Canada
10
Rep
907
Posts

Drives: '11 E90 M3
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Ottawa, Canada

iTrader: (0)

Local dealer had an E90 M3 in Jerez/Fox (not too unlike my order) and the cheese ball CA didn't even offer to unlock it on the lot to get a better look inside.

I went to the other dealer in town and placed my ~$100k CDN (tax in) order.
__________________

'11 BMW M3 E90 Jerez - Fox
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2011, 01:29 PM   #19
ns2000x
Converted
ns2000x's Avatar
Canada
10
Rep
907
Posts

Drives: '11 E90 M3
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Ottawa, Canada

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ns2000x View Post
Local dealer had an E90 M3 in Jerez/Fox (not too unlike my order) and the cheese ball CA didn't even offer to unlock it on the lot to get a better look inside.

I went to the other dealer in town and placed my ~$100k CDN (tax in) order.
PS: I obviously had no problems driving the S4 at my local dealer, the Mercedes rep was trying to get me behind the wheel of a C63 whenever the weather was nice. Jag dealer offered me a drive in an XFR but when one showed up I think he lost confidence in me as a buyer. Too bad for him, for the same price and much better finance rates (ie 0%) the power might have been addictive enough.
__________________

'11 BMW M3 E90 Jerez - Fox
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2011, 01:48 PM   #20
mike33176
Lieutenant
United_States
12
Rep
432
Posts

Drives: 09 Jerez/ Black, E90 M3
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Miami

iTrader: (1)

Send a message via ICQ to mike33176
Quote:
Originally Posted by richpuer View Post
Sometimes the most unsuspecting customer is the person who buys the car, not the guy decked out in Italian clothes wearing diamond crusted Swiss watches. Because of this, I made it a point specifically to drive up in 20 year old Toyota wearing beat up jeans and old t shirts for all my test drives. Never had a problem at 6 dealerships I went to except for one salesman who refused a test drive but all it took was for me to say "get me your manager right now."

I think the best salesman don't judge buyers by their cars or clothes etc. Because they treat everyone equally with the same amount of courtesy and they are the ones that win the deal.
I wear jeans, flip flops and a t-shirt everytime! Having complete knowledge of the car is the most important IMO. I'm usually able to tell the sales person/manager something about the car that they didnt know about. Actually, I think I'm going to go and drive a new GTR today, thanks for the thread OP!
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2011, 01:48 PM   #21
andrew270681
Private First Class
andrew270681's Avatar
Australia
4
Rep
165
Posts

Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sydney, Australia

iTrader: (2)

The first time i went for a test drive in a M3 the dealer drove the car while i sat in the passenger seat. Thats the last time that i will ever walk into that dealership.
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2011, 02:31 PM   #22
immiketoo
Colonel
immiketoo's Avatar
83
Rep
2,873
Posts

Drives: Smoothly
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Chicago Burbs

iTrader: (0)

Depends on the dealer and the marque. BMW has always been fantastic. Porsche as well, but other brands like Nissan(GTR) and Ferrari (Duh) are less accommodating. The trick for me is knowing at least as much about the cars as the salesperson. Easy.
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by double eagle View Post
Thickness feels good to me and my hands aren't that big.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:13 AM.




m3post
m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST