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      12-13-2009, 07:40 AM   #45
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JUST ANOTHER REASON WHY WE SHOULD ALL ONLY OWN BMW's!

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      12-13-2009, 09:03 AM   #46
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cooper on dry track and with some more experience beats the pros caddy brought in. however ctsv is impressive.
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      12-13-2009, 09:35 AM   #47
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where did you watch it?
Speed Channel.
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      12-13-2009, 09:45 AM   #48
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Many congrats to you, Michael.
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      12-13-2009, 09:48 AM   #49
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This is amazing. Nice job representing the Forum community.

Thanks BMW for doing this, really makes a huge difference to all of us.

Now, can I have a job?!
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      12-13-2009, 11:12 AM   #50
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cooper on dry track and with some more experience beats the pros caddy brought in. however ctsv is impressive.
Unfortunately that is not the case. I have gained some knowledge since the CTSV challenge and I also got a good tip from Johnny O after the challenge was over. Do I think I could have been within a second or so of Heinricy in an M5 with what I know now, yes.
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      12-13-2009, 11:33 AM   #51
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1.05-1.17

that can't be the latterals G's your pulling or are they?
This morning I saw a 1.23 and a couple 1.22's and its like 28-30 degrees
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      12-13-2009, 12:43 PM   #52
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Congratulations!
I saw the Infomercial on Speed.
I think a stunt such as this by GM does not improve the image/mystic of the CTS-V.
The Caddy did not lack media coverage prior to this challenge, and was already the darling of the automotive press. I thought it was a lose/lose for GM on this one...
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      12-13-2009, 12:56 PM   #53
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Unfortunately that is not the case. I have gained some knowledge since the CTSV challenge and I also got a good tip from Johnny O after the challenge was over. Do I think I could have been within a second or so of Heinricy in an M5 with what I know now, yes.
ill put my money on you in your M3. you werent the head of design of the M3 on the nurburgring like what caddy had to bring in.
Was the track wetter when you went or in the later session.. its hard to tell.
anyway you were fantastic! and caddy was shocked
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      12-13-2009, 12:58 PM   #54
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i wonder how michael cooper would have done in a DCT in liew of stick.
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      12-13-2009, 12:58 PM   #55
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ill put my money on you in your M3. you werent the head of design of the M3 on the nurburgring like what caddy had to bring in.
Was the track wetter when you went or in the later session.. its hard to tell.
anyway you were fantastic! and caddy was shocked
It was wetter when I went out. Heinricy went out an hour and a half later and Johnny O 2 hours after me
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      12-13-2009, 01:01 PM   #56
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It was wetter when I went out. Heinricy went out an hour and a half later and Johnny O 2 hours after me
ok you know better than me but that could mean a couple seconds. anyway great job and be careful.
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      12-13-2009, 01:10 PM   #57
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Great job to MC... talk about stacking the deck in their favor. It was hard to tell from the video, but where on the track were those "obstacles walls"? It seems to me with the really long straight aways of course the M is going to suffer against 550+hp... ah well, it is what it is.

Nonetheless, an impressive showing in an event obviously set up to favor the V.
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      12-13-2009, 01:12 PM   #58
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Great job to MC... talk about stacking the deck in their favor. It was hard to tell from the video, but where on the track were those "obstacles walls"? It seems to me with the really long straight aways of course the M is going to suffer against 550+hp... ah well, it is what it is.

Nonetheless, an impressive showing in an event obviously set up to favor the V.
The obstacles wall's were about 1/3 of the way down the back straight, which at monticello is the longest straight.
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      12-13-2009, 01:15 PM   #59
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I saw the Infomercial on Speed.
That's all it was indeed. Same thing with the SHO 'challenge'. I never watch crap like that. At least Ford just ran one SHO; GM had to bring SEVEN CTS-Vs, plus 'banned' pro-drivers to beat the amateurs, PLUS tons of practice the other drivers didn't have, and still had the nerve to call the CTS-V the winner, when the M3 won under THEIR own rules? Freaking ridiculous.
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      12-13-2009, 01:21 PM   #60
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I love how the guy who helped design the car, raced the car around the ring and admittedly knows the car inside and out had to come out and race to save face for GM... Then there's the guy that has been racing 2.5 times the amount of time that Michael Cooper has been alive... Gotta love marketing/advertising. Can we get BMWs designers/ring testers out for a drive?
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      12-13-2009, 02:54 PM   #61
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The CTS-V challenge was a joke. They should have accepted a loss and given Cooper his proper respect

Good for BMWNA too, I'm glad they didn't let this go unnoticed. Maybe discount on BMW future products for him would've sweetened the deal
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      12-13-2009, 03:06 PM   #62
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The CTS-V challenge was a joke. They should have accepted a loss and given Cooper his proper respect

Good for BMWNA too, I'm glad they didn't let this go unnoticed. Maybe discount on BMW future products for him would've sweetened the deal
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Its actually on Speed again right now (in Canada anyways)
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      12-13-2009, 03:07 PM   #63
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watching now, on Speed...
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      12-13-2009, 03:31 PM   #64
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Very cool of BMW! Congrats Michael!

I watched the challenge last night - interesting that they ran all the opposition first...when the track was still wet ; )

The "mystery"driver got to go last and turned in the best time. Not that the CTS-V isn't a great car and would not have won anyway, but I bet Michael would have shaved some more time off if he could have run later in the day.
yea i just saw the show.. how fortunate for the GM drivers to drive on a dry track
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      12-13-2009, 03:41 PM   #65
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      12-13-2009, 07:41 PM   #66
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