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      12-11-2009, 10:00 PM   #1
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Lucent Motorsports - said AC Schnitzer has Cams for E9x M3

Lucent Motorsports in La, Ca said AC Schnitzer has Cams for E9x M3, but only available in europe.

Ive searched and couldnt find it....never heard of it on here and was sure it would have been discussed on here if it was.
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i wonder how juicy the benefits will be .....
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i wonder how juicy the benefits will be .....
Prob 5HP for 20k
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He said it provided good amount of power,i believe he said 40hp
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You got lots of power already
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I'm fairly certain that CEC Wheels (also in L.A.) is the U.S. distributor for ACS. They would be an ideal source to confirm this info.
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Don't bother with cams, I did it in my e46 M3. Was pretty expensive for the power it gave me, but it was the last NA mod left for me on that particular car.

You also have to have a really good shop do the install.
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You got lots of power already
not for me....just curious...i figured i know what is out there for my car...not sure how it would of slipped by me! but the fact that i dont know anyone whos heard of it, and nobody has on the forum so far...makes me wonder
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He said it provided good amount of power,i believe he said 40hp
OK, 40hp for 20k.

I'm sure there will be hotter cams coming out. This is still a relatively new and complex engine. I'm surprised that s/c kits are already available from multiple manufacturers.
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Who did you talk to at Lucent?
forgot his name, believe he is the owner, asian, on the shorter side
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OK, 40hp for 20k.

I'm sure there will be hotter cams coming out. This is still a relatively new and complex engine. I'm surprised that s/c kits are already available from multiple manufacturers.
It's really just an engine its nothing new or revolutionary. I find a lot of people when talking about this car see it as some formula 1 thing that happened to make it into a street car.
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CAMs for the S65 aren't any type of boiler-plate design -- if that's what you're thinking. Cam profiles are boiler-plate, but the cam blanks are anything but. The S65 cams require a very special blank that has a very specific timing block designed into it. The timing block is required for VANOS. So it's not like you can just say "grind this profile onto these blanks" and away you go. It's a bit more complicated than that. Assuming you actually have the blanks to begin with, you'll need very special equipment to grind the profiles onto these blanks -- so that they are perfectly aligned with the timing blocks.
if its that complicated its gona be a nice chunk of change..
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BUT HAS ANYONE EVEN HEARD OF ANYONE MAKING CAMS FOR THE M3??
I TRIED GOING TO AC SCHNITZER SITE, BUT COULDNT FIND ANYTHING ON CAMS FOR E9x
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BUT HAS ANYONE EVEN HEARD OF ANYONE MAKING CAMS FOR THE M3??
I TRIED GOING TO AC SCHNITZER SITE, BUT COULDNT FIND ANYTHING ON CAMS FOR E9x
Schrick make cams and more than likely it would be feasible AC Schnitzer could be sourcing from them...

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...hlight=schrick

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http://www.avl-schrick.com/dat/MK/Sc...202009%20E.pdf
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He said it provided good amount of power,i believe he said 40hp
That would be fairly aggressive cams - changing cams doesn't change the area under the curve, it just shifts where the area is - so if cams gave you +40HP @ 8300RPM you'd probably be losing just as much @ 3000RPM....

Cams are fine for drag cars and track cars, for street cars that are daily drivers they aren't worth it...
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That would be fairly aggressive cams - changing cams doesn't change the area under the curve, it just shifts where the area is - so if cams gave you +40HP @ 8300RPM you'd probably be losing just as much @ 3000RPM....

Cams are fine for drag cars and track cars, for street cars that are daily drivers they aren't worth it...
Always a tradeoff, just like nearly all mods. You're not actually saying you think they could get anywhere near 40 hp are you?
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BUT HAS ANYONE EVEN HEARD OF ANYONE MAKING CAMS FOR THE M3??
I TRIED GOING TO AC SCHNITZER SITE, BUT COULDNT FIND ANYTHING ON CAMS FOR E9x
The internet isn't going to have all the answers.
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forgot his name, believe he is the owner, asian, on the shorter side
Arling? He usually knows his stuff.
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It's really just an engine its nothing new or revolutionary. I find a lot of people when talking about this car see it as some formula 1 thing that happened to make it into a street car.
I would think that production volume vrs r&d costs would be the main reason for the lag in aftermarket parts.
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The owner of Lucent motors is Tom. Asian guy who is always smoking a cigar. haha He's probably who you talked to.

Also, I know Schrick once made cams with for the S65. Probably will cost alot for it to work though, because you have to tune the Vanos to work in conjunction with the different LSA, valve lift, duration etc. Not sure if its worth the hassle or the $$.
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Always a tradeoff, just like nearly all mods. You're not actually saying you think they could get anywhere near 40 hp are you?
It wouldn't surprise me - I've seen 20HP gains with cams on EVO engines, so 40HP on an engine twice the capacity isn't out of the realms of possibility. Of course it really depends on how aggressive the factory cams are, which is an unknown...
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