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      01-05-2010, 12:55 PM   #1
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BMW M Performance School Question

I received a gift certificate (Christmas) for the one-day M performance school in South Carolina. I also noticed there is a two-day M performance school in South Carolina as well (not the advanced school at VIR). Has anyone done both? Any recommendation on whether I should spend the extra $2K for the two day class or should I just enjoy the free one-day M school? I live in Charlotte so the trip will be easy :-)

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      01-05-2010, 01:08 PM   #2
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You can't go wrong either way. You'll have a blast and become a better driver in your M as well.

I would take the free 1-day, and save your $ for the Advanced at VIR later on. That's what I'm going to do.
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Yeah I would do the free 1day like Sleeper mentioned since you don't have to travel very far for the class and use the money you would have spent for the 2day on the VIR. Keep in mind, you can not do the VIR without first completing the Mschool. So think of the 1day Mschool as a foot in the door for the VIR class!
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i agree with the above posts. i did the 1 day M school and it was very nice. i am hoping to do the advanced at VIR too
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Do you guys run with your local CCA chapter?
WAY less money and they have GREAT instructors.
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I've done both and they are both a lot of fun. If you get a chance though, I highly recommend the advanced M-School at VIR. It's a blast and the instructors are great. It is a lead-follow type of arrangement and if you're doing well the instructor will push you are far as you're comfortable.

We were in the rain for much of the weekend, and I always thought that I'd hate rain (I would always turn around and go home if the autocross or time trial was in the rain) but it was great fun and if you were faster than your classmates in the group but you were behind the instructor, well, Bye-Bye.

Club events are much, much less expensive by at least a third or more depending on how you prep your car and where you stay. However, some of the guys at the advanced M-class had done it 3-4 times because they figured it was worth saving the wear and tear on their cars ( I thought our cars were designed for this so I don't endorse that idea).
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I've done both and they are both a lot of fun. If you get a chance though, I highly recommend the advanced M-School at VIR. It's a blast and the instructors are great. It is a lead-follow type of arrangement and if you're doing well the instructor will push you are far as you're comfortable.

We were in the rain for much of the weekend, and I always thought that I'd hate rain (I would always turn around and go home if the autocross or time trial was in the rain) but it was great fun and if you were faster than your classmates in the group but you were behind the instructor, well, Bye-Bye.

Club events are much, much less expensive by at least a third or more depending on how you prep your car and where you stay. However, some of the guys at the advanced M-class had done it 3-4 times because they figured it was worth saving the wear and tear on their cars ( I thought our cars were designed for this so I don't endorse that idea).

Good info from someone who's done both.
And I agree that our cars are designed for this... except the damn power steering pump!! Buying new tires and pads would still be cheaper than the driving school since you should be able to use them for a couple events or more.
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You cannot compare HPDE club events with the PC M school. The instruction at the Performance Center is much more structured, and each exercise is designed to lead into the next discipline in driving. Additionally, you drive all the M cars, and each one of these requires a different approach to driving skills. From my experience in the two day course, a lot more time is spent on skid pads, rat races, and fig. 8s all in wet conditions. These exercises are execellent tools to ingrain car control. Brakes and their use are highlighted, implemented, so when combined with high speed driving, a lot more meaningful. There are other proceedures which participants are exposed to. You simply do not get these at your normal HPDE session. However, seat time at HPDEs is most important in reinforcing memory and coordination, and getting to know your car, and your abilities.

In short, both are good. I just do not think that you can compare one to the other in attempting to decide which is best. The worst time I ever had at the track was good.
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