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      09-30-2006, 05:55 PM   #1
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whats the deal w/ smg vs manual?

i have been looking for a used white m3(02-03) and i have found several but all smg... i hate not having manual.... how is the drive on this thing compared to having stick? thanx
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      09-30-2006, 06:59 PM   #2
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SMG is an autimated manual with a clutch driven by hydraulics. Shifts are pretty quick with it.
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never driven a car with SMG, but most comments say its pretty fast, much closer to manual than step., and it's pretty FAST!!!
but still misses the excitement and feeling of the manual...

for me, i would take it
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If it doesn't have a clutch pedal, it's an automatic. Automotive technology, SMG, DSG, etc., is just killing the art of driving.
I love AT's if my sole objective is to drive from point A to point B, but fun and excitement for me can only be had with a MT.
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If it doesn't have a clutch pedal, it's an automatic. Automotive technology, SMG, DSG, etc., is just killing the art of driving.
I love AT's if my sole objective is to drive from point A to point B, but fun and excitement for me can only be had with a MT.
hmmmmmm

i kinda agree with u...

but with DSG, guys chose suto not just to make it from point A to B, they also take it cuz its faster than MT...

and i heard SMG is pretty quick too...
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but with DSG, guys chose suto not just to make it from point A to B, they also take it cuz its faster than MT...

and i heard SMG is pretty quick too...
Yeah, you're right. But even if the AT shifts faster then any human can possibly shift, the fun is removed. I would sacrifice speed for driving excitement anytime. Even if it shaves off half a sec on the quarter mile.
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Yeah, you're right. But even if the AT shifts faster then any human can possibly shift, the fun is removed. I would sacrifice speed for driving excitement anytime. Even if it shaves off half a sec on the quarter mile.
Same here.
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if it doesn't have a torque converter, it's not an automatic


but I agree it's not the same as having a manual
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if it doesn't have a torque converter, it's not an automatic
Ok, you make a good point.
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If you have to ask, just get the freaking stick and save yourself $ for mod. Well, if you are looking at m3, you have a heavy wallet so you pro don't care about saving $.
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i drove my friend's, which is smg. i liked it with the paddle shifters. go test drive one and see how you like it.

i've also test driven an a3 with dsg. another good system.
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While I agree with the statements that its not an auto and not a manual, it is closer to a manual than automatic.

I really dont get the argument of 'its a quicker change' in any transmission debate. 90% of us in here are not professional drivers, and it probably is quicker shifting in an auto. But you dont get the driving pleasure from the auto like you do in a manual...

I say drop the argument. Every person is going to prefer something different, so lets all enjoy what we have chosen...
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SMG is okay, 6 speed ftw though.
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