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      10-29-2009, 10:38 AM   #23
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yes, but talking smack from the first game is what matters on a car forum
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I'm not talking smack. Just pointing out some obvious things the Cav's are going through. It was even more evident last night againt Toronto. They'll come around.
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its all coming to fruition now, deshawn stevenson was right, lebron IS over rated + shaq is way down hill...lebron isnt going to compete for a championship until atleast 2011
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its all coming to fruition now, deshawn stevenson was right, lebron IS over rated + shaq is way down hill...lebron isnt going to compete for a championship until atleast 2011
LeBron is definitely not overrated. His team is. LeBron did all he could last year in the playoffs but his teammates were no where to be seen.
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oh well he cant bring out the best in teammates like jordan or kobe does. okay he's not over rated just underachieved
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I'm not talking smack. Just pointing out some obvious things the Cav's are going through. It was even more evident last night againt Toronto. They'll come around.
i knwo you're not talking smack... that's what im here for
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its all coming to fruition now, deshawn stevenson was right, lebron IS over rated + shaq is way down hill...lebron isnt going to compete for a championship until atleast 2011
damn... that's true man. lebron needs a change of mentality and maybe team before he can put on a ring

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oh well he cant bring out the best in teammates like jordan or kobe does. okay he's not over rated just underachieved
bingo, you nailed it! he's like Kobe when Kobe was a dick and everyone around him was stupid.
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bingo, you nailed it! he's like Kobe when Kobe was a dick and everyone around him was stupid.
He's not a dick though. Sometimes it seems like he tries too hard to get guys involved and passes on making plays himself. Then when it gets to crunch time he holds onto the ball too much.

The guys around Lebron aren't stupid they just don't have much big game experience.

I really don't think Lebron in overrated, far from it actually. The guys a beast and can do things others dream of. He'll have his ring, maybe not this year but will in the next few. He won't be leaving Cleveland either with the exception of the Lakers and maybe the Heat but both are far fetched. He will not be going to a team that will require rebuilding such as the Knicks and Nets.
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He's not a dick though. Sometimes it seems like he tries too hard to get guys involved and passes on making plays himself. Then when it gets to crunch time he holds onto the ball too much.

The guys around Lebron aren't stupid they just don't have much big game experience.

I really don't think Lebron in overrated, far from it actually. The guys a beast and can do things others dream of. He'll have his ring, maybe not this year but will in the next few. He won't be leaving Cleveland either with the exception of the Lakers and maybe the Heat but both are far fetched. He will not be going to a team that will require rebuilding such as the Knicks and Nets.
Actually, I think he will be going to one of the NY teams.
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Actually, I think he will be going to one of the NY teams.
Explain why. Other then Market and being buds with Jay-Z there is no other good reason. Both teams will need major rebuilding let a lone they can't even offer him the same money the Cav's are capable.

1.He'll take a pay cut. Not like it matters to him but he want's to be the first billion dollar entertainer/athelet so any pay cut slows that process down.
2.He won't win a ring any where quicker then he would a Cav.
3.He's in a "larger" market but with internet, tv, etc. do the market sizes really even matter anymore like they used to
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Explain why. Other then Market and being buds with Jay-Z there is no other good reason. Both teams will need major rebuilding let a lone they can't even offer him the same money the Cav's are capable.

1.He'll take a pay cut. Not like it matters to him but he want's to be the first billion dollar entertainer/athelet so any pay cut slows that process down.
2.He won't win a ring any where quicker then he would a Cav.
3.He's in a "larger" market but with internet, tv, etc. do the market sizes really even matter anymore like they used to
I think the market is the main reason he will be leaving. If he really wanted to stay in Cleveland then he would've signed the contract extension already.
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I think the market is the main reason he will be leaving. If he really wanted to stay in Cleveland then he would've signed the contract extension already.
There's no point in signing the extension. He get's more money with a new contract plus can add more clauses(ie trade clauses if they don't win by a certain year, etc.) and escalators(bigger bonuses for MVP, Champ MVP, Rings, etc.).

There is a better likelyhood of Bosh or Wade landing in Cleveland then Lebron leaving Cleveland.
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my preditions:

Lakers over Celtics in the finals

Spurs/Nuggets ; Cavs/Magic has chances but I still like the Laker's chance of winning it all.

oh and i'm a Wizard fan (probably aren't that many out there lol). Gilbert and Wiz FTW.. I say Wiz will fall between be 4th or 5th seed and win round 1
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my preditions:

Lakers over Celtics in the finals

Spurs/Nuggets ; Cavs/Magic has chances but I still like the Laker's chance of winning it all.

oh and i'm a Wizard fan (probably aren't that many out there lol). Gilbert and Wiz FTW.. I say Wiz will fall between be 4th or 5th seed and win round 1
wiz fan ryt here, actually mor eof a gilbert arenas fan...smoothest player i have ever seen with unlimited range. my top 4 to watch

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Saw a funny California License plate the other day in Irvine.

"SUNS WIN" with a Phoenix Suns sticker on the window. WTF have the Suns won to justify getting that license plate? HAHHAHAA
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a game against miami?

dude laker bench is so goddamn useless! they always make us lose. 4 freaking points the whole game last night man, WTF!!! it's like our bench is the clippers (i said that on my fb already)...
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dude laker bench is so goddamn useless! they always make us lose. 4 freaking points the whole game last night man, WTF!!! it's like our bench is the clippers (i said that on my fb already)...
They'll do better once Gasol comes back and LO goes to the bench.
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My Blazers are sucking hard. 2-3... what kind of BS is this? A loss to Atlanta??? Really???
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a game against miami?

dude laker bench is so goddamn useless! they always make us lose. 4 freaking points the whole game last night man, WTF!!! it's like our bench is the clippers (i said that on my fb already)...
Gasol coming back and Odom back to the bench cannot be an excuse for that horrendous showing last night...i mean these guys been playing with each other since last year and prior to that..and yet they can't seem to coordinate or learn each other's tendencies (spots, help defense, etc..) WTF! And don't even go to Vujacic...what a waste of millions of $$$, at least Bynum's earning his new contract...

I'm going to see them this Friday against Memphis..i certainly hope Gasol will be back
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They'll do better once Gasol comes back and LO goes to the bench.
haha that's not a solution at all dude... those guys need to step up and shoot and make their shots.

anyway...

but what's up with the OT??? dammit i missed both games while i was sitting in goddamn LA traffic
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Gasol coming back and Odom back to the bench cannot be an excuse for that horrendous showing last night...i mean these guys been playing with each other since last year and prior to that..and yet they can't seem to coordinate or learn each other's tendencies (spots, help defense, etc..) WTF! And don't even go to Vujacic...what a waste of millions of $$$, at least Bynum's earning his new contract...

I'm going to see them this Friday against Memphis..i certainly hope Gasol will be back
yah i just read the stats and im like wtf with vujacic? if you want to look gay at least play hard enough so people dont think you really are

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yah i just read the stats and im like wtf with vujacic? if you want to look gay at least play hard enough so people dont think you really are

jk...
Check D-Fish's stat last night. 34 mins 0 points, 0 rebounds, 0 assists.
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