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      10-20-2009, 10:54 AM   #1
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Pullys EVO vs Rouge

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has anyone tried Evo pulley and then swap fpr Rouge Pulley? I wonder if I make more HP whit Rouge Pulley
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I think the Rogue pulley is a bit more conservative. I think it was 12 or 14% reduction while AA and others are 16%. I got the rogue and it was a definite improvement. After a couple months I still see no ill effects.
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has anyone tried Evo pulley and then swap fpr Rouge Pulley? I wonder if I make more HP whit Rouge Pulley
Still need a bit more info from you - what is your production date and are you equipped with 6MT or DCT?

A strong point on the Rogue pulleys is that replacement belts are avaialble from most local part houses, especially since you are posting from PR.
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I thought the Rogue was a 16% under-drive as well . I was under the assumption that only Evo-sports DCT pulley was different from the rest.

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I think the Rogue pulley is a bit more conservative. I think it was 12 or 14% reduction while AA and others are 16%. I got the rogue and it was a definite improvement. After a couple months I still see no ill effects.
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I thought the Rogue was a 16% under-drive as well . I was under the assumption that only Evo-sports DCT pulley was different from the rest.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...6&postcount=28

I have no idea what the numbers are for the Evo pulley.
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Still need a bit more info from you - what is your production date and are you equipped with 6MT or DCT?

A strong point on the Rogue pulleys is that replacement belts are avaialble from most local part houses, especially since you are posting from PR.
I have no idea on the production date of the car but 2009 and is a DCT.Thanks for the input!
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I went with AA's pulley.

I assumed their pulley was one of the most reliable options since they had the double-sided belt, and I felt it was proven to work safely.
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I have no idea on the production date of the car but 2009 and is a DCT.Thanks for the input!
This is exactly what I was getting at.

The Rogue UDPs includes a power steering pulley so standardized belts can be used, rather than the specialized double-walled 6-rib that is currently on DCTs and post 5/08 6MT builds.

Its up to you, we've installed plenty of the Rogue units in which there are many happy users here on the forum.
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I went with RE because they are reliable and no stories of belts snapping. AA on the other hand I have heard some guy on the forum had his AA custom belt snap of him. EVO I haven't hard anything.
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I went with RE because they are reliable and no stories of belts snapping. AA on the other hand I have heard some guy on the forum had his AA custom belt snap of him. EVO I haven't hard anything.
Here's the link to the thread on the guy who had his belt snap: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...ight=aa+pulley

AA's first batch of the double-sided belts were perhaps the wrong size and maybe even defective, from what I understood on that thread. They've already addressed that issue and solved any, and all the problems out there.

Most importantly, Omar and the gang at AA proved what customer service is all about, when the situation happened and how they immediately solved it........And that's why I went with their pulley.
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If you have an earlier build (04/08 for example) 6MT then you don't need a double sided belt, correct?
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If you have an earlier build (04/08 for example) 6MT then you don't need a double sided belt, correct?
ya something like that!
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If you have an earlier build (04/08 for example) 6MT then you don't need a double sided belt, correct?
Correct.
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This is exactly what I was getting at.

The Rogue UDPs includes a power steering pulley so standardized belts can be used, rather than the specialized double-walled 6-rib that is currently on DCTs and post 5/08 6MT builds.

Its up to you, we've installed plenty of the Rogue units in which there are many happy users here on the forum.
Hi Tom,

Thanks for the info but do you think I will free up more HP whit the Rouge?
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I don't think the Rogue will make more horsepower.
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Hi Tom,

Thanks for the info but do you think I will free up more HP whit the Rouge?
Results will be similiar with all pulley setups currently on the market (most are 12-15% reduction).

Rogue pulleys are a proven 8-10hp at the wheels.
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Since Rogue is a 12% under-drive vs 16% for the others, I would think it would make less power .
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Since Rogue is a 12% under-drive vs 16% for the others, I would think it would make less power .
There's not going to be a noticeable difference between them in terms of power output. The difference in the amount of underdrive is more significant in terms of the accessories running off that pulley. The more conservative number is less likely to cause any issues when idling on a hot day with all of your accessories on. That said, I haven't heard anyone report issues with this with the AA pulley, but it doesn't hurt to play it safe.
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Has any one swicth from one to another and did some dyno runs before and afther like whit the computer reflash
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Has any one swicth from one to another and did some dyno runs before and afther like whit the computer reflash
Flashes and tunes are entirely independent of and irrelevant to modified pulleys.
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I think the Rogue pulley is a bit more conservative. I think it was 12 or 14% reduction while AA and others are 16%. I got the rogue and it was a definite improvement. After a couple months I still see no ill effects.
FYI. HP Autowerks is 12% also.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=304901
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Went with Rogue and Tom at EAS for the install, local/great service. The rogue also resembles the stock pulley in color I believe which makes it harder to identify if a dealer was to inspect. (correct me if wrong)
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