What is the best performance upgrade you can buy with $6000 - Page 4

Top_Gear · 10-04-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rom3n

Rumor has it there will be a low cost entry level Supercharger for the E9X M3 very soon that makes nice power

"Low cost entry supercharger" probably means absence of air/water cooling in a forced induction system.

Sounds like a bad idea ...

J08M3 · 10-04-2009, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rom3n

Rumor has it there will be a low cost entry level Supercharger for the E9X M3 very soon that makes nice power

Is it going to make more power than using all the simple bolts ons that are currently available?

Roman@ESS · 10-04-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Top_Gear

"Low cost entry supercharger" probably means absence of air/water cooling in a forced induction system.

Sounds like a bad idea ...

Why a bad idea ? We have several low boost supercharger kits that do not require cooling. We have used these types of kits for many years on several different BMW models. If you do some research you will see that other BMW and non BMW FI vendors do also. For customers who want a low cost, simple to install system that makes good power they work great when they have proper design and tuning.

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Originally Posted by J08M3

Is it going to make more power than using all the simple bolts ons that are currently available?

Even if our stage 1 kit only made 120 whp and 80 ft/lb tq over stock it would be better than any simple bolt on combination available for this car.

This is a dyno of our entry level R&D stage 1 kit. This test kit has has no cooling. It was run on 91 octane in 80 deg weather four times back to back. The difference in power between each run was plus/minus 3 whp. We also removed our CAI from the kit and pulled warm air in from the engine bay with a simple filter attached to the blower to try and create a worst case scenario.

J08M3 · 10-04-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rom3n

Even if our stage 1 kit only made 120 whp and 80 ft/lb tq over stock it would be better than any simple bolt on combination available for this car.

This is a dyno of our entry level R&D stage 1 kit. This test kit has has no cooling. It was run on 91 octane in 80 deg weather four times back to back. The difference in power between each run was plus/minus 3 whp. We also removed our CAI from the kit and pulled warm air in from the engine bay with a simple filter attached to the blower to try and create a worst case scenario.[/IMG]

Sounds interesting

keep us posted

RGuard250 · 10-04-2009, 04:45 PM

Definitely interested in this kit!

psuwcc112 · 10-04-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rom3n

Why a bad idea ? We have several low boost supercharger kits that do not require cooling. We have used these types of kits for many years on several different BMW models. If you do some research you will see that other BMW and non BMW FI vendors do also. For customers who want a low cost, simple to install system that makes good power they work great when they have proper design and tuning.

Even if our stage 1 kit only made 120 whp and 80 ft/lb tq over stock it would be better than any simple bolt on combination available for this car.

This is a dyno of our entry level R&D stage 1 kit. This test kit has has no cooling. It was run on 91 octane in 80 deg weather four times back to back. The difference in power between each run was plus/minus 3 whp. We also removed our CAI from the kit and pulled warm air in from the engine bay with a simple filter attached to the blower to try and create a worst case scenario.

How much for the entry level SC?

kugo188 · 10-04-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by psuwcc112

How much for the entry level SC?

+1 hopfully around 6k

Roman@ESS · 10-04-2009, 08:20 PM

Pricing has not been set yet but it will be below $10k.

graider · 10-04-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rom3n

Pricing has not been set yet but it will be below $10k.

below 5k would be golden, lol. i'm sure everyone and their moms would jump on this.

psuwcc112 · 10-04-2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by graider

below 5k would be golden, lol. i'm sure everyone and their moms would jump on this.

+1

H Bomb · 10-04-2009, 08:59 PM

what warranty to you offer with your kits??

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rom3n

Why a bad idea ? We have several low boost supercharger kits that do not require cooling. We have used these types of kits for many years on several different BMW models. If you do some research you will see that other BMW and non BMW FI vendors do also. For customers who want a low cost, simple to install system that makes good power they work great when they have proper design and tuning.

Even if our stage 1 kit only made 120 whp and 80 ft/lb tq over stock it would be better than any simple bolt on combination available for this car.

This is a dyno of our entry level R&D stage 1 kit. This test kit has has no cooling. It was run on 91 octane in 80 deg weather four times back to back. The difference in power between each run was plus/minus 3 whp. We also removed our CAI from the kit and pulled warm air in from the engine bay with a simple filter attached to the blower to try and create a worst case scenario.

Eugene-TAIWAN · 10-04-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tightie

Yes, you are ignorant. You are sitting here calling me out like I purposely blew my motor. It wasn't the drivers fault, you don't know shit. My car was on the dyno when it blew, it had the wrong software on it. It had the Stage 3 software and I have stage 2. It has nothing to do with me, Gpower already took fault and they are repairing my motor.

I doubt if the tables turned and it was your car being down right now, I'm almost positive you wouldn't want stupid little remarks like that.

It's people like you who make me want to sell my m3.

My heart goes out to you bro. i would hate for something like that happen.

Roman@ESS · 10-04-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by graider

below 5k would be golden, lol. i'm sure everyone and their moms would jump on this.

Sorry but it wont be that cheap

Quote:

Originally Posted by H Bomb

what warranty to you offer with your kits??

2 years

RGuard250 · 10-04-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rom3n

Sorry but it wont be that cheap

2 years

Roman,

I know you are getting 100x of the same questions, but when is the ETA of this stage 1 kit? If it is priced under 7k, I guarantee you this will sell like the next generation i-phone on their release date. Most people are probably looking for a significant increase in power that won't require head/block work, axle-shafts, aftermarket clutch, loss of mileage, ect. This kit would be perfect! Would it have an option to add a inter/aftercooler later on or is it set as is?

kugo188 · 10-04-2009, 11:09 PM

easy installment,
simple design,
great reliability,
hopfully no ecu tuning required,
equal to or slightly more than 500hp, 500nm,
$6,000-7,000 USD depending on the supercharger used
0-100km in 4secs?

you will have the kit selling like pancakes WORLDWIDE!

Finnegan · 10-04-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kugo188

easy installment,
simple design,
great reliability,
hopfully no ecu tuning required,
equal to or slightly more than 500hp, 500nm,
$6,000-7,000 USD depending on the supercharger used
0-100km in 4secs?

you will have the kit selling like pancakes WORLDWIDE!

Yep!

Roman@ESS · 10-04-2009, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RGuard250

Roman,

I know you are getting 100x of the same questions, but when is the ETA of this stage 1 kit? If it is priced under 7k, I guarantee you this will sell like the next generation i-phone on their release date. Most people are probably looking for a significant increase in power that won't require head/block work, axle-shafts, aftermarket clutch, loss of mileage, ect. This kit would be perfect! Would it have an option to add a inter/aftercooler later on or is it set as is?

Im sorry I can't answer all of your questions at this time. What I can tell you is that a stage 1 kit would not be designed to be simply upgraded but by changing a few core components it could. If a customer was considering higher HP or a kit they could upgrade with simple changes they should consider purchasing our 600 or 650 HP stage 2 kits. I can also tell you that all of the parts in even a stage 1 kit are very high quality and are the same parts used in our high performance stage 2 kits. Our goal in producing a stage 1 product would not be to cut corners and bring a low quality low cost product to the market. Our goal would be to bring an option to the market for customers who feel that another 100-130 HP would make their car perform at a level they would be completely happy with.

If you want to discuss any of our kits in detail feel free to email me

kugo188 · 10-04-2009, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rom3n

Im sorry I can't answer all of your questions at this time. What I can tell you is that a stage 1 kit would not be designed to be upgraded. If a customer was considering higher HP or a kit they could upgrade they would need to purchase our 600 or 650 HP stage 2 kits both of which have the option to produce additional power if the customer wanted. I can also tell you that all of the parts in even a stage 1 kit are very high quality and are the same parts used in our high performance stage 2 kits. Our goal in producing a stage 1 product would not be to cut corners and bring a low quality low cost product to the market. Our goal would be to bring an option to the market for customers who feel that another 100-130 HP would make their car perform at a level they would be completely happy with.

If you want to discuss any of our kits in detail feel free to email me

very well said.
don't mind higher prices at all as long as they are high quality products

I think easy of installment and simple design is key.

e.g., In many developing countries like China, there are lots of luxuary car owners, but the country is lacking skilled mechanics to do the more complex mods.

RGuard250 · 10-04-2009, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rom3n

Im sorry I can't answer all of your questions at this time. What I can tell you is that a stage 1 kit would not be designed to be upgraded. If a customer was considering higher HP or a kit they could upgrade they would need to purchase our 600 or 650 HP stage 2 kits both of which have the option to produce additional power if the customer wanted. I can also tell you that all of the parts in even a stage 1 kit are very high quality and are the same parts used in our high performance stage 2 kits. Our goal in producing a stage 1 product would not be to cut corners and bring a low quality low cost product to the market. Our goal would be to bring an option to the market for customers who feel that another 100-130 HP would make their car perform at a level they would be completely happy with.

If you want to discuss any of our kits in detail feel free to email me

Roman,

Do you have any pictures of this stage 1 kit as opposed to your stage 2?

kugo188 · 10-05-2009, 01:16 AM

what parts do the stage 1 kit consist of?
is it similar to the g-power stage 1 kit?

McLuVan · 10-05-2009, 02:14 AM

tunermotorsport stage 2
4.10 FD
then strip off everything
and holy shit you got yourself a 400rwhp, tire eating, 3000lb CAR!
LOL...

McLuVan · 10-05-2009, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rom3n

Rumor has it there will be a low cost entry level Supercharger for the E9X M3 very soon that makes nice power

really?
5k and below
will be fricking AMAZING!!!!!
O_O

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RGuard250 Titanium TCP Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Honolulu Posts: 168 iTrader: (0)	Definitely interested in this kit!

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kugo188 Enlisted Member Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Beijing Posts: 35 iTrader: (0)	easy installment, simple design, great reliability, hopfully no ecu tuning required, equal to or slightly more than 500hp, 500nm, $6,000-7,000 USD depending on the supercharger used 0-100km in 4secs? you will have the kit selling like pancakes WORLDWIDE!

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kugo188 Enlisted Member Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Beijing Posts: 35 iTrader: (0)	what parts do the stage 1 kit consist of? is it similar to the g-power stage 1 kit?