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      09-15-2009, 02:17 AM   #1
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Republican party defined by "crackpots"

By ANDIE COLLER | 9/10/09 8:21 PM EDT
Updated: 9/11/09 2:03 PM EDT



Joe Wilson’s outburst Wednesday night earned more than a personal rebuke from the president and a dagger-eyed gasp from the speaker of the House; it drew winces from Republicans worried that their party is becoming known less for the power of its ideals and more for the pettiness of its vitriol.

“Neither party has an exclusive on wack jobs,” says Republican media consultant Mark McKinnon. “Unfortunately, right now the Democrats generally get defined by President Obama, and Republicans, who have no clear leadership, get defined by crackpots — and then they begin to define the Republican Party in the mind of the general public.”

Turn on the TV, and you see what he means.

Here’s Orly Taitz, insisting that the commander in chief was born in Kenya. There’s a flock of angry protesters chanting “Just say no!” and carrying signs depicting a Democratic congressman with devil’s horns. Former GOP vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin warns darkly that Obama is planning “death panels” for senior citizens. Georgia Rep. Paul Broun equates the president’s plans with “Nazi” policies. Ohio Rep. Jean Schmidt — last heard calling John Murtha a “coward” — tells a birther: “I agree with you, but the courts don’t.”

And then, in the midst of all the catcalls, hand-held signs and “I’m not listening” BlackBerrying, Wilson interrupts Obama’s address to a joint session of Congress by shouting, “You lie!”

“The president was helped more by the optics of House Republicans than by his own speech,” says former Rep. Vin Weber (R-Minn.). “It’s not likely to do any long-term damage, but they need to be very careful how they oppose this president.”

One veteran GOP official puts it bluntly: “The image of a bunch of white guys booing an African-American president is about as bad as it gets.”

Republican leaders were quick to distance themselves from Wilson’s outburst. John McCain said Wilson should apologize, and he did — although he also insisted that he was right about Obama’s lack of candor.

Brian Jones, a former communications director for the Republican National Committee, finds it frustrating when lawmakers like Wilson hijack the party’s public persona.

“You have a little bit of tyranny of the minority with these people,” he says. “It may raise their profile, it may make them more attractive in their district — but does it really help the image of the party in the midst of an important debate? I think no. Obviously, there are some who will be cheering this, but I think the cake is baked with them in terms of how they feel about Obama and health care.”

But Texas Sen. John Cornyn, the chairman of the Republicans’ campaign arm in the Senate, suggests that it’s not fair to tar the GOP with its fringier elements — and that the criticism won’t last anyway.

“I think that it’s a free country,” he says. “Anybody can say what they want, they can identify themselves as a Democrat, independent, a Republican, a socialist or whatever they want to call themselves. That doesn’t mean they were representative of a political party or the mainstream of a political party.”

Down the line, he says, when the primary fields clear and the party’s candidates become better known, “then the voice of the Republican Party in states across the country [is] going to be their Republican nominee and candidate,” he says.

But “right now,” he says, “there’s sort of a void because that hasn’t formed yet.”

The question for the GOP: What will fill that void in the meantime, and will it leave an indelible stain on the party even after its election-year A-team emerges? Will the party be known for its Gang of Six — the senators working, with varying degrees of success, on a bipartisan health care plan — or for those who question everything from the president’s place of birth to his right to talk to the nation’s schoolchildren?
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      09-15-2009, 08:45 AM   #2
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I couldn't agree more.

And I'll bet our resident crack pots will come in here and tell us how we are all about to "destroy" the nation by allowing Obama to be president.
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This thread is funny coming as it does on the heels of a crackpot truther in the White House and the president's former employer found providing assistance in tax evasion and in setting up a brothel for child sex slaves in not one but at least three of their offices.
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This thread is funny coming as it does on the heels of a crackpot truther in the White House and the president's former employer found providing assistance in tax evasion and in setting up a brothel for child sex slaves in not one but at least three of their offices.
Thank you for proving the argument.
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Both parties are defined by their crackpots. Though, most manage to only see the crackpots on the other side.

This is nothing new.
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Thank you for proving the argument.
Thank you for proving you do not have an argument.

The idea that some random ill-mannered congressman is the face of the Republican Party but the Democrat Party is free from any taint left by a man the president himself hired & the felonious behavior of an organization he worked for and maintains close ties to borders on delusional.
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The way the Democrats and the media treated the Bush adminstration proved that rabid dogs can emerge as winners. Look at Barney Frank, John Murtha, Algore, Dick Durbin, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, etc., etc., etc. Maybe a few Republicans have picked up on it and are applying those lessons from their own perspective.

As yet, I haven't noticed Republicans gaining the complicity of the popular press.

There is nothing the socialists would like better than to have everyone else just give up and join up with them in destroying this once great nation.
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The greater problem is that the Republican Party has become far too much like the Democrat Party. They are both on the side of bigger and bigger government. Maybe one or the other will wake up and break away. Tyranny must be ended.
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Sweeping generalizations from either side widely accepted by the public, that's what kills politics.

Republicans are racist.

Democrats are tree hugging fruitcakes.

Everybody is a liar.

Now let's argue about it.
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Both parties are defined by their crackpots. Though, most manage to only see the crackpots on the other side.

This is nothing new.
Bingo.

For what it's worth, John McCain is a crackpot.
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Sweeping generalizations from either side widely accepted by the public, that's what kills politics.

Republicans are racist.

Democrats are tree hugging fruitcakes.

Everybody is a liar.

Now let's argue about it.

Well, that part is TRUE with respect to politicians, regardless of political party affiliation!

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Bingo.

For what it's worth, John McCain is a crackpot.
McCain and his kind are a significant part of what is wrong with the Republican party.
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Well, that part is TRUE with respect to politicians, regardless of political party affiliation!

No, apparently every one in this subforum is a liar too. Duh.
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