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      09-17-2009, 12:33 PM   #45
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Well, IMHO, America is headed to Hell in a handbasket . . .
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Well, IMHO, America is headed to Hell in a handbasket . . .
DAMN STRAIGHT, and OBAMA is carrying it!
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      09-17-2009, 12:51 PM   #47
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I've personally been seeing the decay long before I ever heard the name Obama. Decay in the foundation of America. We never had parents on the fields fighting when I played youth sports. The local church and school fundraising "fiestas" were a far cry above where they are now. Even the county fair was far better than these days.
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      09-17-2009, 12:54 PM   #48
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yeah well human decency is going down the shitter, nothing you can do.
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      09-17-2009, 01:03 PM   #49
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On the contrary, join me in being a shining light of hope for a return to common decency. I'm not giving up, you shouldn't either.

(No, I voted for Alan Keyes)
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      09-17-2009, 01:14 PM   #50
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yeah well human decency is going down the shitter, nothing you can do.
Be the change you want to see in the world
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      04-22-2011, 06:42 PM   #51
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I just ordered in advance a copy of the book from Amazon.com. I went with the hardcover edition, rather than kindle. If I didn't order now, I would likely forget to do it after release.

I am not very optimistic about it having any impact at all on this issue, but I can at least hope that it will lead to impeachment. This is my version of hope and change.
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      04-22-2011, 08:16 PM   #52
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And the passport information is relevant. He traveled to pakistan in 1981. A usa passport was not allowed entry in the country at that time. He must have used a different countries passport, making his a citizen or dual citizen of that country and thus not eligible.
Or he had a visa granted without his passport being stamped. The small number of pseudo-countries or territories out there that are not recognized by the free world will do this so they can gain your business and not have you draw attention to yourself when you re-enter your own country. "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" is a quick example of which I have first-hand knowledge.

I don't know anything about Obama going to Pakistan and nor do I care. The fact that he went there is not sufficient evidence that he has foreign or dual citizenship, that's all.
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      04-23-2011, 12:19 AM   #53
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He might've been born here but something on his birth certificate says something that would embarrass him. It probably says he's a Muslim. But I suppose I consider myself a "birther."
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Unless a state like Louisiana passes a birther bill, which is already in the works, which says any presidential candidate must show their birth certificate in order to run in their state; then Obama will never show it because right now it's causing the real issues like the debt, gas prices and wars to go unnoticed.
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      04-23-2011, 12:24 PM   #55
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So the real issues of 6 months ago that ARE getting better are no longer issues? I love how everyone jumped on his dick about unemployment when it was at 10%, and now that it's at 9% and getting better it's no longer an issue. Such assknobbery...
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So the real issues of 6 months ago that ARE getting better are no longer issues? I love how everyone jumped on his dick about unemployment when it was at 10%, and now that it's at 9% and getting better it's no longer an issue. Such assknobbery...
Uhh, i'm pretty sure unimployment pretty much IS still an issue dude. But you can celebrate 9% all you want. Much of the "improvement" is just people not looking anymore.
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      04-23-2011, 01:12 PM   #57
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Uhh, i'm pretty sure unimployment pretty much IS still an issue dude. But you can celebrate 9% all you want. Much of the "improvement" is just people not looking anymore.
and Obama wanting people to go back to school and out of the labor market, lowering unemployment
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Uhh, i'm pretty sure unimployment pretty much IS still an issue dude. But you can celebrate 9% all you want. Much of the "improvement" is just people not looking anymore.
It's not, hidden unemployed has stayed the same or has lowered since last year. My point is that it's irrelevant. These things are much less influenced by policy, and much more influenced by the business cycle. The national rhetoric HAS switched away from unemployment to deficit as unemployment started showing signs of improvement.
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CNN's real research by rational people, for rational people.

"A new CNN investigation reveals what most analysts have been saying since the "birther" controversy erupted during the 2008 presidential campaign: Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961. Period."

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/04/....obama.hawaii/

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What if you don't believe CNN because they are the "lame stream media"? Here it is straight from Fox News:

"Shep Smith appears to be losing patience with the crazies. (This is not the first time.)

Said Shep on his show Fox Report last night: "Fox News can confirm that the President of the United States is a citizen of the United States. Period.""

Video here

http://www.businessinsider.com/shep-...s-video-2011-4
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      04-27-2011, 03:59 AM   #61
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Shep Smith is actually a cyborg, just look at him. Not to be trusted.

I have relatives that think he's a crazy fricking liberal and mute Fox when he is on the screen.



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What if you don't believe CNN because they are the "lame stream media"? Here it is straight from Fox News:

"Shep Smith appears to be losing patience with the crazies. (This is not the first time.)

Said Shep on his show Fox Report last night: "Fox News can confirm that the President of the United States is a citizen of the United States. Period.""

Video here

http://www.businessinsider.com/shep-...s-video-2011-4
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...-long-form.pdf

The birthers will never be satisfied.
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      04-27-2011, 08:59 AM   #63
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Yup, it's been released. You birthers can go home now, nothing to see here now.

I guess now they'll start focusing on whether he's a Muslim or not now.
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That or say it's fake/photoshopped
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Well, IMHO, America is headed to Hell in a handbasket . . .
We're already there. Now, hopefully we can stop focusing on dumb shit and start digging our way out.
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This is probably the stupidest conspiracy theory ever. Now they'll be saying "pics or it didn't happen".
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