BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > E90/E92 M3 Technical Topics > Engine, Transmission, Exhaust, Drivetrain, ECU Software Modifications
 
Lux Angel Eyes
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      09-02-2009, 07:40 PM   #1
frankzlin79
Lieutenant Colonel
 
frankzlin79's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 Nissan GT-R
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Houston, Texas

Posts: 1,618
iTrader: (5)

Mact Schnell Air Filter Installed

Okay, I just spent freakin 45 min installing my Mact Schnell filter. I followed Blake's instruction on the DIY.

I had a really really tough time getting the new filter installed. My tensioner was super tight so I had to use brute force and push the filter toward the passenger headlight to create the clearance for the tensioner.

Now with it installed, I feel that the filter is not on that tight! Where the filter mates up with the stock plastic piece is not a tight seal at all. I can basically left upward on the MS filter to get the top half to pop off (bottom half is still slightly secured because of the bottom clips in the stock plastic piece).

So my question to you people with the MS filter, is this normal? Do you find that the upper plastic clips on the stock plastic piece will easily come unclipped if you just lift upwards on the MS filter? Of course the problem is because the upper clips of the plastic piece are just touching the spongy and soft lip of the MS filter.

I think it was relatively easy to lift upwards when I was removing the OEM filter....but it just seems like the MS filter is even easier to lift away.

I'm worried that eventually the filter is going to pop off completely when I'm driving and I'll suck in a leave or bugs.
frankzlin79 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      09-02-2009, 08:22 PM   #2
tom @ eas
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
tom @ eas's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Anaheim, CA

Posts: 9,932
iTrader: (13)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by frankzlin79 View Post
Okay, I just spent freakin 45 min installing my Mact Schnell filter. I followed Blake's instruction on the DIY.

I had a really really tough time getting the new filter installed. My tensioner was super tight so I had to use brute force and push the filter toward the passenger headlight to create the clearance for the tensioner.

Now with it installed, I feel that the filter is not on that tight! Where the filter mates up with the stock plastic piece is not a tight seal at all. I can basically left upward on the MS filter to get the top half to pop off (bottom half is still slightly secured because of the bottom clips in the stock plastic piece).

So my question to you people with the MS filter, is this normal? Do you find that the upper plastic clips on the stock plastic piece will easily come unclipped if you just lift upwards on the MS filter? Of course the problem is because the upper clips of the plastic piece are just touching the spongy and soft lip of the MS filter.

I think it was relatively easy to lift upwards when I was removing the OEM filter....but it just seems like the MS filter is even easier to lift away.

I'm worried that eventually the filter is going to pop off completely when I'm driving and I'll suck in a leave or bugs.
Did you remove the intake tract also (45 degree elbow going to the manifold) when installing? I find this makes installation much easier than trying to flex the filter to maneuver it into place.
__________________
Tom G. | european auto source (eas)
email: tom@europeanautosource.com web: www.europeanautosource.com tel 866.669.0705 ca: 714.369.8524 x22

GET DAILY UPDATES ON OUR BLOG FACEBOOK YOUTUBE FLICKR INSTAGRAM
tom @ eas is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      09-02-2009, 08:37 PM   #3
frankzlin79
Lieutenant Colonel
 
frankzlin79's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 Nissan GT-R
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Houston, Texas

Posts: 1,618
iTrader: (5)

Yes I did remove the intact track (that was what I was referring the plastic piece) when uninstalling. But before inserting the new filter, I inserted the intact track back on and secured it with the clamp. I then put the filter on.

At first, I tried to see if I could install the intact track last, but that wasn't going to work at all.
frankzlin79 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      09-02-2009, 08:42 PM   #4
frankzlin79
Lieutenant Colonel
 
frankzlin79's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 Nissan GT-R
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Houston, Texas

Posts: 1,618
iTrader: (5)

Review

I just got back from a test drive. I suppose the filter isn't going to be coming off. I suppose my install was done correctly.

My butt dyno isn't detecting any difference. I think the car accelerates through the rpms slightly quicker, but not anything dramatic. As far as the intake sounds, I can't really hear a difference until about pass 5000 rpms. When I step on the accelerator past the indent point, I can clearly hear the intake making a nice air-sucking sound, which I've never heard with the OEM filter.

As long as the filter stays put, I'm satisfied with the product. It was only $99 so if it isn't giving me any real performance benefit, oh well. At least I get a nice intake sound effect now.
frankzlin79 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      09-02-2009, 08:43 PM   #5
tom @ eas
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
tom @ eas's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Anaheim, CA

Posts: 9,932
iTrader: (13)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by frankzlin79 View Post
I just got back from a test drive. I suppose the filter isn't going to be coming off. I suppose my install was done correctly.

My butt dyno isn't detecting any difference. I think the car accelerates through the rpms slightly quicker, but not anything dramatic. As far as the intake sounds, I can't really hear a difference until about pass 5000 rpms. When I step on the accelerator past the indent point, I can clearly hear the intake making a nice air-sucking sound, which I've never heard with the OEM filter.

As long as the filter stays put, I'm satisfied with the product. It was only $99 so if it isn't giving me any real performance benefit, oh well. At least I get a nice intake sound effect now.
Give it some time, the filter is definitely an improvement over the stock piece.

Dynos don't lie.
__________________
Tom G. | european auto source (eas)
email: tom@europeanautosource.com web: www.europeanautosource.com tel 866.669.0705 ca: 714.369.8524 x22

GET DAILY UPDATES ON OUR BLOG FACEBOOK YOUTUBE FLICKR INSTAGRAM
tom @ eas is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      09-02-2009, 09:06 PM   #6
MrHarris
yodog
 
MrHarris's Avatar
 
Drives: '86 Corolla
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Diamond Bar, Ca

Posts: 5,036
iTrader: (5)

Garage List
2009 BMW  [5.00]
Send a message via AIM to MrHarris
Yeah, it's about 3-5whp
__________________

2009 E92 M3 | Alpine White | Black Extended | Advan RS | Turner Test Pipes | Dinan Axle-Back | OETuning | Eibach Springs | UUC SSK | VRS Front Lip | VRS Type I Diffuser | Matte Black | RPi Scoops | MS Filter | Yokohama AD08 | F1 Pinnacle
Special Thanks: Gintani | OETuning | eAs
MrHarris is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      09-03-2009, 10:15 AM   #7
Vic55
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Vic55's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 AW F13 M6
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: THE Orange County

Posts: 1,820
iTrader: (8)

and 3-5 hp by itself is not noticeable but add in the pulley and the rpi scoops and you got yourself a nice hp gain for cheap...
__________________
2015 Jaguar F Type R Coupe Polaris White
2014 Porsche 991 Turbo S Guards Red
2014 Audi RS7 Ibis White
2012 Audi R8 V-10 Ibis White
2012 Mercedes Benz C63 AMG Black Series Obsidian Black
Vic55 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      09-03-2009, 11:12 AM   #8
tom @ eas
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
tom @ eas's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Anaheim, CA

Posts: 9,932
iTrader: (13)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vic55 View Post
and 3-5 hp by itself is not noticeable but add in the pulley and the rpi scoops and you got yourself a nice hp gain for cheap...
Agreed - these items add up quick in terms of hp gains.
__________________
Tom G. | european auto source (eas)
email: tom@europeanautosource.com web: www.europeanautosource.com tel 866.669.0705 ca: 714.369.8524 x22

GET DAILY UPDATES ON OUR BLOG FACEBOOK YOUTUBE FLICKR INSTAGRAM
tom @ eas is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      09-03-2009, 11:24 AM   #9
powertrip
Scared money don't make money.
 
powertrip's Avatar
 
Drives: 2009 E92 M3 DCT
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Irvine, CA

Posts: 1,458
iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2009 E92 M3  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by tom @ eas View Post
Give it some time, the filter is definitely an improvement over the stock piece.

Dynos don't lie.
+1...and the intake sound is noticeably throatier as well. Can't beat a filter for a cheap first upgrade .
__________________
2009 E92 M3/DCT/Alpine White/Fox Red/Carbon Leather
OE Tuned 402 whp & 303 wtq/Gintani X-pipe/MXP Axle Back/Rogue Pulley/AFE Stage 2/Cosmetics By IND & EAS
HUGE THANKS: Gintani, OE Tuning, and EAS
powertrip is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      09-03-2009, 12:32 PM   #10
frankzlin79
Lieutenant Colonel
 
frankzlin79's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 Nissan GT-R
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Houston, Texas

Posts: 1,618
iTrader: (5)

But my original question was: do you with the MS filter feel Otis installed tight enough?
frankzlin79 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      09-03-2009, 12:37 PM   #11
powertrip
Scared money don't make money.
 
powertrip's Avatar
 
Drives: 2009 E92 M3 DCT
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Irvine, CA

Posts: 1,458
iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2009 E92 M3  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by frankzlin79 View Post
But my original question was: do you with the MS filter feel Otis installed tight enough?
Yep, it fits nice & snug. One piece of advise I'd give you is it to make sure that the push-pin that holds the filter in is free of dirt & debris. I cleaned mine with electrical contact cleaner and it was much smoother, and seemed to put a bit more pressure against the filter .
__________________
2009 E92 M3/DCT/Alpine White/Fox Red/Carbon Leather
OE Tuned 402 whp & 303 wtq/Gintani X-pipe/MXP Axle Back/Rogue Pulley/AFE Stage 2/Cosmetics By IND & EAS
HUGE THANKS: Gintani, OE Tuning, and EAS
powertrip is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      09-03-2009, 12:38 PM   #12
MrHarris
yodog
 
MrHarris's Avatar
 
Drives: '86 Corolla
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Diamond Bar, Ca

Posts: 5,036
iTrader: (5)

Garage List
2009 BMW  [5.00]
Send a message via AIM to MrHarris
Contact cleaner works wonders with so many things
__________________

2009 E92 M3 | Alpine White | Black Extended | Advan RS | Turner Test Pipes | Dinan Axle-Back | OETuning | Eibach Springs | UUC SSK | VRS Front Lip | VRS Type I Diffuser | Matte Black | RPi Scoops | MS Filter | Yokohama AD08 | F1 Pinnacle
Special Thanks: Gintani | OETuning | eAs
MrHarris is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:54 PM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST