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      08-30-2009, 03:54 PM   #23
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props to LBM! great info here!
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      08-30-2009, 04:04 PM   #24
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To Lemans_Blue_M - that's a very good info. I am in the market for a set of wheels. What other brand of wheels that is using 8000 ton forging to make their wheels? Thank you so much for the good info . This site is great.
Champion, VOLK, and BBS (not all are forged) are always mentioned as excellent wheels.
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      08-30-2009, 09:49 PM   #25
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To Lemans_Blue_M - that's a very good info. I am in the market for a set of wheels. What other brand of wheels that is using 8000 ton forging to make their wheels? Thank you so much for the good info . This site is great.
That information is available elsewhere on this forum.

I think the RAC Monolite thread has it buried somewhere in the 103+ pages.

Good luck!
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Thanks for the info LMB! I feel that I always learn something from reading your threads.

Makes sense that Dinan and HRE both have to outsource. It takes too much capital to develop the production plant, and both Dinan and HRE are tiny companies on a global scale.
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      08-31-2009, 08:56 AM   #27
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I do not want to hijack this thread but for months now I cannot decide on my next track wheel.
Advan RS or Volk TE37???!!

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      08-31-2009, 09:19 AM   #28
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I love my P40s. Sure other members on the forum have them, but I've never seen an M3 around my area with P40s, come to think of it, I don't think I've seen an M3 with aftermarket wheels around my area.

The P40s are slightly lighter, but the added width and tire size most likely more than evens that out. I'm going to guess with the wheel and tire they are heavier than my stock 19s, albeit by a small margin.

Looks wise, they cant be beat. This is of course an opinion.

Also, you might want to look into the C20 or C21s by HRE. It's their lightest wheel and they look fantastic. If I we're to upgrade my street wheels it would be to these.
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I do not want to hijack this thread but for months now I cannot decide on my next track wheel.
Advan RS or Volk TE37???!!

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TE37 all the way. It's a classic. Does the RS come in 18's?
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TE37 all the way. It's a classic. Does the RS come in 18's?

Yes they do! and the Advan RS is very light and trusted wheel eventhough its a cast one. Also, cheeper than the TE37 and has less offset.
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I have heard from Jesse and Shep that while Neez purchases their blanks from Taneisya, the cnc and finishing are done elsewhere.
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      09-04-2009, 01:01 PM   #33
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LMB, what happens to all that extra metal that's CNC'ed off? I hope they can re-use it somewhere??

Is there a reason they "only" use 4000 TON forging?
APP refuses to source 8000TON wheels since they claim is "too expensive" and they limit they 8000TON press to their real forging...aerospace.

The "scrap" is collected and recycled at about $.70/lb last time i checked.

HRE has done a great job marketing their products but is LIGHT-YEARS form being a performance wheel.
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      09-06-2009, 01:06 AM   #35
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HRE all the way.
If you want heavier wheels.
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      09-06-2009, 10:20 AM   #36
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Props to LMB he is always on point with all info and very helpful in most questionable threads.
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APP refuses to source 8000TON wheels since they claim is "too expensive" and they limit they 8000TON press to their real forging...aerospace.

The "scrap" is collected and recycled at about $.70/lb last time i checked.

HRE has done a great job marketing their products but is LIGHT-YEARS form being a performance wheel.
Guess I'm getting some aerospace wheels!!!
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LMB, what happens to all that extra metal that's CNC'ed off? I hope they can re-use it somewhere??

Is there a reason they "only" use 4000 TON forging?
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Guess I'm getting some aerospace wheels!!!
Volk, RAC, NEEZ, MORR, Dinan, Champion... they all use 8000ton forgings or higher and 6000-series aluminum.

HRE uses the lowest available tonnage for their wheels and have been known to use 5000-series aluminum

True manufacturers will design their forgings around their wheels. When a manufacturer designs their wheels around their forgings look somewhere else.
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Volk, RAC, NEEZ, MORR, Dinan, Champion... they all use 8000ton forgings or higher and 6000-series aluminum.

HRE uses the lowest available tonnage for their wheels and have been known to use 5000-series aluminum
Hey man, you seem knowledgeable on this issue, so hopefully can answer my question: Do you know what the stock forged 19s are made of? Thanks.

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Volk, RAC, NEEZ, MORR, Dinan, Champion... they all use 8000ton forgings or higher and 6000-series aluminum.

HRE uses the lowest available tonnage for their wheels and have been known to use 5000-series aluminum

True manufacturers will design their forgings around their wheels. When a manufacturer designs their wheels around their forgings look somewhere else.
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Dinans are awesome, but they're some of the most expensive wheels around. However, money no option, I would get them over HREs any day!!
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Hey man, you seem knowledgeable on this issue, so hopefully can answer my question: Do you know what the stock forged 19s are made of? Thanks.
They are Forged Aluminum.
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They are Forged Aluminum.
I know that man; was referring to 8000ton forged, 6000ton, or what. Want to know how they compare in strength to other forged alternatives.
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