A little tuner action: AA vs Stock vs Powerchip - Page 5

Mike Benvo · 09-10-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Active Autowerke

We are game as well as special pricing for all members who show up...

Maybe free dyno runs to for the first xxx amount of members maybe..

I think that's a conflict of interest.

Please start your own thread.

You don't see me posting in your threads.

attila · 09-10-2009, 04:25 PM

Can anyone post a REAL stock vs. AA ECU tune dyno run with nothing else (maybe catback exhaust)??

Mike Benvo · 09-10-2009, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by attila

Can anyone post a REAL stock vs. AA ECU tune dyno run with nothing else (maybe catback exhaust)??

If there is a car in the Greater LA area, I am willing to pay to have the car dynoed at an independent facility. And then we'll put our standard flash in and see what happens.

attila · 09-10-2009, 04:43 PM

That's a nice offer! I am very far though, and already have a AA tune. What i would like to figure out:
1. Did I loose any high and power with the AA tune over stock? (The car feels stronger at low rpm for sure)
2. Is Powerchip significantly better? Without huge mpg drop? (my car is my DD but I take it to the track regularly)

Mike Benvo · 09-10-2009, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by attila

That's a nice offer! I am very far though, and already have a AA tune. What i would like to figure out:
1. Did I loose any high and power with the AA tune over stock? (The car feels stronger at low rpm for sure)
2. Is Powerchip significantly better? Without huge mpg drop? (my car is my DD but I take it to the track regularly)

1. Couldn't answer that for you. But we can dyno with your AA file and then go back to stock and see what happens.

2. My opinion is yes. I haven't seen any MPG drop but usually a slight mpg gain because we optimize the tune specifically for your fuel type.

I think a few people on the boards has posted gains in MPG and said that the car was much smoother part throttle, and a new beast on top.

I don't want to discount AA's products, they are a well respected tuner. But we've come a VERY long way since our initial research and development on the M3, and I think our tunes are the best out there right now.

AMPowerJ · 09-10-2009, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@Powerchip

I will be offering a special rate to those who switch from another brand to Powerchip.

I would like to switch from BMW to Powerchip. Does that qualify?

elp_jc · 09-10-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AMPowerJ

I would like to switch from BMW to Powerchip. Does that qualify?

It sure does man; he didn't specify. Pin him down before he edits it

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J08M3 · 09-10-2009, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@Powerchip

I think that's a conflict of interest.

Please start your own thread.

You don't see me posting in your threads.

Just curious what makes this more your thread than an AA thread???

It is called AA vs. Stock vs. Powerchip.... and was started by a forum user not Powerchip.

QTRM3 · 09-10-2009, 09:24 PM

interesting, I have AA ECU flash and I am very happy with it. I guess custom ECU tune may give more HP but I am shore AA ECU don't reduce the power of the car in fact it make it smoother than stock.

Her is the graph of Mustang Dyno to prov it :
First:
Remus Race Exhaust
Evo Sport Pulleys
AFE Filter

Second: ^^+
AA X-Pipe Castles
AA ECU Tune

powertrip · 09-10-2009, 09:40 PM

^^^ Good for you...glad you're happy with the tune. AA's tune sucked on my car and each car is DIFFERENT in how it responds to tunes (and mod's). Powerchip for the win

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QTRM3 · 09-10-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by powertrip

^^^ Good for you...glad you're happy with the tune. AA's tune sucked on my car and each car is DIFFERENT in how it responds to tunes (and mod's). Powerchip for the win

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As you said each car respond differently to tunes but it dose not mean that Powerchip is the winner. I am shore if u send the dyno charts to AA they definitely will help you.

powertrip · 09-10-2009, 10:37 PM

Yeah that may be true, but I never heard anything from Omar. I like Powerchip's location as well (they're local to me), so I don't plan on changing anything up. Looks like both of our cars are making great power so...

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Originally Posted by QTRM3

As you said each car respond differently to tunes but it dose not mean that Powerchip is the winner. I am shore if u send the dyno charts to AA they definitely will help you.

Nawaaz · 09-10-2009, 10:42 PM

Off topic, but QTRM3's exhaust set-up sounds INSANE!

QTRM3 · 09-10-2009, 10:45 PM

If I have them local I will shore go with them .... you got a defected product from AA and it is your right to get a refund

QTRM3 · 09-10-2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nawaaz

Off topic, but QTRM3's exhaust set-up sounds INSANE!

Thanks bro

... I saw your name in the Powerchip's group pay, lats do a dyno at autoscoop after just to compare numbers

Nawaaz · 09-10-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by QTRM3

Thanks bro

... I saw your name in the Powerchip's group pay lets do the dyno at autoscoop after just to compare numbers

Yeah man!

I'm still trying to plan it all out so I can squeeze in a before/after dyno.

mixja · 09-10-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by QTRM3

interesting, I have AA ECU flash and I am very happy with it. I guess castom ECU tune may give more HP but I am shore AA ECU don't reduce the power of the car in fact it make it smoother than stock.

Her is the graph of Mustang Dyno to prov it :
First:
Remus Race Exhaust
Evo Sport Pulleys
AFE Filter

Second: ^^+
AA X-Pipe Castles
AA ECU Tune

Strange torque curve...

Second dyno also includes AA X-Pipe so you made 18WHP with AA tune and X-Pipe - I would expect more gains...in fact it wouldn't surprise me if you got those gains alone with the X-Pipe (I'd be happy with 15WHP out of X-Pipe)...

QTRM3 · 09-10-2009, 11:00 PM

I 'm not shore If Powerchip's can give more than that ..... I am not talking about 2 or 3 HP

Nawaaz · 09-10-2009, 11:04 PM

From all my research, getting the car custom dyno tuned is where the key difference is.

QTRM3 · 09-10-2009, 11:07 PM

100% agree with you about the custom tune but I don't know if it worth $$$ for my case

Nawaaz · 09-10-2009, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by QTRM3

100% agree with you about the custom tune but I don't know it it worth $$$ for my case

I completely understand.

Since you've already spent a good amount of money on the AA tune, it would be very difficult to digest paying another grand on a second tune, even if it's better.

m33 · 09-10-2009, 11:31 PM

will power chip be in the connecticut area anytime soon? and how much is a custom tune?

09-10-2009, 09:24 PM	#97
QTRM3 Second Lieutenant Drives: E92 M3 2008 6MT Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 210 iTrader: (1)	interesting, I have AA ECU flash and I am very happy with it. I guess custom ECU tune may give more HP but I am shore AA ECU don't reduce the power of the car in fact it make it smoother than stock. Her is the graph of Mustang Dyno to prov it : First: Remus Race Exhaust Evo Sport Pulleys AFE Filter Second: ^^+ AA X-Pipe Castles AA ECU Tune Attached Images __________________ Remus Race Exhaust, AA X-Pipe Castles, AA SSK, AA ECU Tune, Evo Sport Pulleys, AFE Filter & Air Scope, HRE P40 20, H&R Springs ... Last edited by QTRM3; 09-11-2009 at 12:05 AM.

09-10-2009, 09:40 PM	#98
powertrip Scared money don't make money. Drives: 2009 E92 M3 DCT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 1,459 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2009 E92 M3 [0.00]	^^^ Good for you...glad you're happy with the tune. AA's tune sucked on my car and each car is DIFFERENT in how it responds to tunes (and mod's). Powerchip for the win . __________________ 2009 E92 M3/DCT/Alpine White/Fox Red/Carbon Leather OE Tuned 402 whp & 303 wtq/Gintani X-pipe/MXP Axle Back/Rogue Pulley/AFE Stage 2/Cosmetics By IND & EAS HUGE THANKS: Gintani, OE Tuning, and EAS

09-10-2009, 10:45 PM	#102
QTRM3 Second Lieutenant Drives: E92 M3 2008 6MT Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 210 iTrader: (1)	If I have them local I will shore go with them .... you got a defected product from AA and it is your right to get a refund __________________ Remus Race Exhaust, AA X-Pipe Castles, AA SSK, AA ECU Tune, Evo Sport Pulleys, AFE Filter & Air Scope, HRE P40 20, H&R Springs ...

09-10-2009, 11:00 PM	#106
QTRM3 Second Lieutenant Drives: E92 M3 2008 6MT Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 210 iTrader: (1)	I 'm not shore If Powerchip's can give more than that ..... I am not talking about 2 or 3 HP __________________ Remus Race Exhaust, AA X-Pipe Castles, AA SSK, AA ECU Tune, Evo Sport Pulleys, AFE Filter & Air Scope, HRE P40 20, H&R Springs ...

09-10-2009, 11:07 PM	#108
QTRM3 Second Lieutenant Drives: E92 M3 2008 6MT Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 210 iTrader: (1)	100% agree with you about the custom tune but I don't know if it worth $$$ for my case __________________ Remus Race Exhaust, AA X-Pipe Castles, AA SSK, AA ECU Tune, Evo Sport Pulleys, AFE Filter & Air Scope, HRE P40 20, H&R Springs ... Last edited by QTRM3; 09-11-2009 at 12:09 AM.

09-10-2009, 04:25 PM	#90
attila Lieutenant Drives: 2011 GT3RS, 2010 MX-5, 2009 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 496 iTrader: (0)	Can anyone post a REAL stock vs. AA ECU tune dyno run with nothing else (maybe catback exhaust)??

09-10-2009, 04:43 PM	#92
attila Lieutenant Drives: 2011 GT3RS, 2010 MX-5, 2009 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 496 iTrader: (0)	That's a nice offer! I am very far though, and already have a AA tune. What i would like to figure out: 1. Did I loose any high and power with the AA tune over stock? (The car feels stronger at low rpm for sure) 2. Is Powerchip significantly better? Without huge mpg drop? (my car is my DD but I take it to the track regularly)

09-10-2009, 10:42 PM	#101
Nawaaz Brigadier General Drives: . Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: . Posts: 4,647 iTrader: (0)	Off topic, but QTRM3's exhaust set-up sounds INSANE!

09-10-2009, 11:04 PM	#107
Nawaaz Brigadier General Drives: . Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: . Posts: 4,647 iTrader: (0)	From all my research, getting the car custom dyno tuned is where the key difference is.

09-10-2009, 11:31 PM	#110
m33 Banned Drives: E92 VT650 MCB Individual Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CT Posts: 2,676 iTrader: (5)	will power chip be in the connecticut area anytime soon? and how much is a custom tune?

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