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      08-07-2009, 10:07 AM   #1
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Akra in Canadian Winter?

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I was wondering if anybody is running the Akra full system in extreme climates and if there are any issues. I am loosly considering the system but where I live the summers can get upto +35c and the winters can sometimes get to -35c (rare but its happened). and i know ti is fragile and all that...
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This was one of the reasons I did not go with Ti. Seems most people that have Ti exhausts do not drive their car daily. And if they do they are usually in SoCal, Arizona, etc. I just don't know how Ti would hold up in the winter, even here in Seattle where it rarely gets below freezing (but almost daily showers from Nov-March). Your call!
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i daily drive the m3, and a lot. all year round, this could be an issue, does anybody know how the akra warranty handles this?
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I have been averaging around 1100 miles per month since I got the car 14 months ago. But now I think she will only be driven 400-500 miles at most per month. I still think that overall stainless steel will be more durable over the long run, not to mention a lot easier to get repaired than Ti in the event of a problem such as a cracked weld.
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      08-07-2009, 12:10 PM   #5
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I can't find anything on the Akra website about the low temps, but they did test a system up to 800 degrees celcius which is crazy! You could always call Akra and find out?

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Akra was built for European market! We do have temps from -35C to +35C, sometimes more or less. Of course our waranty covers this

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I was wondering if anybody is running the Akra full system in extreme climates and if there are any issues. I am loosly considering the system but where I live the summers can get upto +35c and the winters can sometimes get to -35c (rare but its happened). and i know ti is fragile and all that...
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      08-07-2009, 04:13 PM   #7
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Akra was built for European market! We do have temps from -35C to +35C, sometimes more or less. Of course our waranty covers this
ok thanks, is the warrant transferable?
also, what exactly does it cover, all cracks from weather and stuff like that and how does it work, u pay shipping back and fourth...etc?
pm me if its easier
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Ralf, he is wondering if he buys my exhaust, is the warranty still good? It should be, right?

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Andy, now I am a little confused...

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Ralf, he is wondering if he buys my exhaust, is the warranty still good? It should be, right?

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Sorry to say, but this is absolute nonsense! Beside being Akra exporter I am also a pilot with a major German airline and most of our new jet-engines have TI engine outlets which turned in beautiful blue colour after exterme heating. Our engine outlets sustain exhaust gas temps of more than 900C and they sustain low temps of -50C when the aircraft is parked in winter at several destinations. So there is absolute no reason to worry about material fatique!
I guess the hardest test environment for any material is aviation with the exception of space travel where TI is used also! And sometimes it also rains during flight

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This was one of the reasons I did not go with Ti. Seems most people that have Ti exhausts do not drive their car daily. And if they do they are usually in SoCal, Arizona, etc. I just don't know how Ti would hold up in the winter, even here in Seattle where it rarely gets below freezing (but almost daily showers from Nov-March). Your call!
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Akra is good quality, I would worry if it were cheaper quality Ti.
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I think that is the case...cheap titanium has problems in extreme temps, but good titanium does not.

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It's nice. But why buy such an expensive exhaust in that climate.

Better off with another system for price and just because it'd be a waste.

But it's your money.
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It's nice. But why buy such an expensive exhaust in that climate.

Better off with another system for price and just because it'd be a waste.

But it's your money.
thanks for the input, but i am a bit confused, how would it be a waste here? i know a 5k exhaust is a waste regardless, but do you mean cause half the year is snowy or just cause the climate will be harsh on the system>
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Ralf, he is wondering if he buys my exhaust, is the warranty still good? It should be, right?

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ralf is this correct? do i get a straight warranty with akra or thru the distributor?hks
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It's nice. But why buy such an expensive exhaust in that climate.

Better off with another system for price and just because it'd be a waste.

But it's your money.
Yeah, why is it a waste?

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Yeah, why is it a waste?

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Well I meant to word it differently.

It's a waste to have such an expensive exhaust in that climate.

If one thing were to go wrong, your screwed out of that money.

Why not spend like 2K-3K and get an something just as good, maybe not the same quality but at least have another 2k to play with in case something were to happen in those climates.

Ti can be brittle if it aint high quality Ti.

Just like driving a Ferrari in snow compared to a Subaru in snow.

Both might make it through.. (maybe not lol) but one is fine to do it with and the other is just a shame lol.
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Well I meant to word it differently.

It's a waste to have such an expensive exhaust in that climate.

If one thing were to go wrong, your screwed out of that money.

Why not spend like 2K-3K and get an something just as good, maybe not the same quality but at least have another 2k to play with in case something were to happen in those climates.

Ti can be brittle if it aint high quality Ti.

Just like driving a Ferrari in snow compared to a Subaru in snow.

Both might make it through.. (maybe not lol) but one is fine to do it with and the other is just a shame lol.
The Akra Ti is a special Titanium they have made for them especially - from the Akrapovic website:

"Three basic materials are used for creating exhaust systems: high grade titanium, stainless steel, and pre impregnated ultra light carbon fiber with high tensile strength and temperature resistance. The titanium compound is a unique formula manufactured under an exclusive contract by a Japanese supplier. It is therefore much stronger and durable than regular titanium on the free market. The titanium used by Akrapovič is stronger and 40% lighter than stainless steel. "
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Was ESS unable to fix that dip?
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They have not tried to yet. September.

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ralf is this correct? do i get a straight warranty with akra or thru the distributor?hks
Hi Niqui, you have a streight warranty by Akra with proof that you bought at an official Akra dealer. Since Andy bought at Bulletproof this is the case, but I do not know how they do handle the shipping cost.
See also seperate mail!

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