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      08-09-2009, 07:29 PM   #23
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Thanks for the replies,

When i first had the car my son changed all the cars settings onto sport mode and that is when i had the problem but the other day i set the settings back to default and it still judders when i pull away. It happens on low revs aswell when pulling away, so do you think it is something to do with the M settings ? and the fuel doesn't cut off and i don't think it is wheel hop aswell.
I'll go with the kangaroo fuel theory
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      08-10-2009, 03:26 AM   #24
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Hi guys went out in the Bmw M3 yesterday and it seems when you hit the throttle hard it doesn't seem to judder and if you hit the throttle smooth it doesn't do it either. And sorry i don't know what you mean by the DCT or the 6mt ? and do people suggest i should take it to the dealer as i still have warrenty on the car.

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      08-10-2009, 04:44 AM   #25
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Hi guys went out in the Bmw M3 yesterday and it seems when you hit the throttle hard it doesn't seem to judder and if you hit the throttle smooth it doesn't do it either. And sorry i don't know what you mean by the DCT or the 6mt ? and do people suggest i should take it to the dealer as i still have warrenty on the car.

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If you don't know what DCT is, or 6MT, then I am not surprised that you have so much difficulty in describing the symptoms.....
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      08-10-2009, 05:23 AM   #26
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I am stunned by how many issues there are with the DCT. I stopped reading the DCT lag thread a while back but apparently there are more annoying behaviors. All can be traced back to one important factor : you do not control the clutch(es) the computer does which was my #1 reason to caution against it when people were pre-ordering in early 08.
Some people at least headed or shared that view and changed their orders back to MT.
I am stunned at how many people who do not own a DCT equipped car feel the need to comment on them, and whose opinion is apparently soley based on what they read on a forum. I actually own one, and it works nearly flawlessly. You want to focus on the word "nearly"? Could I say that when I was driving MT, I drove nearly flawlessly? Not even close. Judging by that standard, I would be tempted to drop the word "nearly" when describing the DCT. A day on the track and I can say that it actually was flawless. As a daily driver, with 8000 miles and the latest software, it is transparent if I want it to be. I don't even have to think about it anymore. It kicks ass if I want it too. I have absolutely no complaints. So when I read a comment like yours, I just shake my head and wonder WTF your motivation is.

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      08-10-2009, 09:13 AM   #27
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dct is the dual clutch transmission that does not have a clutch pedal. rather it has two paddles behind the wheel that allows you to select a gear. it can also be driven in an automatic mode. 6mt is a 6 speed manual transmission, like the good old days, with a clutch pedal.
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      08-10-2009, 12:22 PM   #28
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If you don't know what DCT is, or 6MT, then I am not surprised that you have so much difficulty in describing the symptoms.....
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what else can be said... well, for sure you are very polite!


Anyway, OP, DCT = double clutch transmission; 6MT = 6 speed manual transmission
[and BTW, OP= original poster; oh, and BTW = by the way!]
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      08-10-2009, 12:40 PM   #29
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what else can be said... well, for sure you are very polite!


Anyway, OP, DCT = double clutch transmission; 6MT = 6 speed manual transmission
[and BTW, OP= original poster; oh, and BTW = by the way!]
Hey, you forgot to explain '+1' .
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      08-10-2009, 12:47 PM   #30
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you know zuggerat , read the rules of this forum before you answer. We call respect for each other. If you can perfect that, I suggest you chose a different website.
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      08-10-2009, 01:19 PM   #31
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OP, from the way it sounds, I think a M driving school will fix the issue

Im going to make my guess and say that the car is DCT, or Automatic as you were probably told by the salesmen.
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      08-10-2009, 03:56 PM   #32
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I have this issue as well and find it happening when the engine is cold'ish and I have the power button on (mine's a 6MT though).
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      08-10-2009, 04:39 PM   #33
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Hi guys went out in the Bmw M3 yesterday and it seems when you hit the throttle hard it doesn't seem to judder and if you hit the throttle smooth it doesn't do it either. And sorry i don't know what you mean by the DCT or the 6mt ? and do people suggest i should take it to the dealer as i still have warrenty on the car.

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Are you sure you have a E92 M3? Bring it back to the dealer mate as its a brand new car, and anything which do not feel or sounds right; get them to resolve it asap!
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      08-10-2009, 04:41 PM   #34
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If you don't know what DCT is, or 6MT, then I am not surprised that you have so much difficulty in describing the symptoms.....
Most polite brit I have ever come across
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      08-10-2009, 05:11 PM   #35
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Hey guys,

Sorry about that reply my son has been on her writing random stuff. I have a 6mt transmission not a dct.
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      08-11-2009, 04:24 PM   #36
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That's what bmw do! Mine kangaroos worse if im using 95ron fuel. try 98ron and be progressive on the throttle. No sharp movements in 1st gear!
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      08-11-2009, 06:41 PM   #37
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Thanks for the info, i will put 98ron fuel in next time i fill the car up which is soon so will info you back if that works.

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      08-12-2009, 09:18 AM   #38
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I would expect someone driving an M3 to fill up with the best available fuel.
Are you telling us you've been filling with 95ron?

On the other hand, isn't Vpower 100ron still available in the UK? This would be my choice.
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      08-12-2009, 10:16 AM   #39
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I am stunned at how many people who do not own a DCT equipped car feel the need to comment on them, and whose opinion is apparently soley based on what they read on a forum. I actually own one, and it works nearly flawlessly. You want to focus on the word "nearly"? Could I say that when I was driving MT, I drove nearly flawlessly? Not even close. Judging by that standard, I would be tempted to drop the word "nearly" when describing the DCT. A day on the track and I can say that it actually was flawless. As a daily driver, with 8000 miles and the latest software, it is transparent if I want it to be. I don't even have to think about it anymore. It kicks ass if I want it too. I have absolutely no complaints. So when I read a comment like yours, I just shake my head and wonder WTF your motivation is.
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      08-12-2009, 05:19 PM   #40
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Your DCT M3 works perfectly and you have no complain. I am glad to hear that believe me that's great. I can understand where you are coming from with your post. I have driven a DCT but I do not own one. So you are right. But understand me well, quality control and success of the BMW DCT can not be judged by a minority of satisfied owners tracking or not. I have been on the forum before DCT was even released and have been tracking all related issues. It is very obvious that issueS with the DCT have been significant enough for a large number of owners to try to force BMW to resolve it when multiple fix have had little positive effect or failed to solve the problems or even introduced different pbs. I have seen hardcore believer of the DCT in 08 in this forum who have been left disapointed with it and have a very different view of it now. Maybe your DCT is fine but judging by the number of complaints it is a fail IMO.

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I am stunned at how many people who do not own a DCT equipped car feel the need to comment on them, and whose opinion is apparently soley based on what they read on a forum. I actually own one, and it works nearly flawlessly. You want to focus on the word "nearly"? Could I say that when I was driving MT, I drove nearly flawlessly? Not even close. Judging by that standard, I would be tempted to drop the word "nearly" when describing the DCT. A day on the track and I can say that it actually was flawless. As a daily driver, with 8000 miles and the latest software, it is transparent if I want it to be. I don't even have to think about it anymore. It kicks ass if I want it too. I have absolutely no complaints. So when I read a comment like yours, I just shake my head and wonder WTF your motivation is.
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      08-12-2009, 05:32 PM   #41
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+1

what else can be said... well, for sure you are very polite!


Anyway, OP, DCT = double clutch transmission; 6MT = 6 speed manual transmission
[and BTW, OP= original poster; oh, and BTW = by the way!]

what is WTF?
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      08-12-2009, 06:17 PM   #42
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Hey guys,

Sorry about that reply my son has been on her writing random stuff. I have a 6mt transmission not a dct.
Now that you confirmed you have a 6MT, then I think what you are describing is definitely caused by "driver error." Same thing has happenned to me - it only happens when I'm starting in first gear in sport+ mode, and if I don't add enough gas and/or disengage the clutch too quickly, the car will start "jumping." I also noticed, like another post said, this happens more easily when the car is cold.

In any case, if you take care to do everything smoothly, you won't encounter the jumping. I was a bit concerned too the first time I experienced it because I've never experienced this problem with any other MT car I drove. But I've never driven a car as powerful and fast as this car either.

Another suggestion is simply not drive in sport+ mode, especialy in the city. It makes the throttle very sensitive and therefore very hard to drive smoothly.

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      08-13-2009, 08:36 AM   #43
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what is WTF?
what the fuck

Some time ago somebody posted a link directing to a comprehensive list of all commonly used acronyms. Very useful but I can't find it...
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you really need to use 98 ron with the M3. Also ensure that your foot is planted on the pedals as alot of the time it is that your foot has come off the pedal. First gear in an M3 is always brutal.
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