Bmw M3 E92 problem.

Bmw M3 Britian · 08-07-2009, 08:08 AM

Hi guys,
Just bought a couple months ago a brand new Bmw M3 E92, which just had its first running in service a couple weeks ago but I have a small problem with the car. When trying to get away quite quickly, when i accelerate the car judders like it has kangaroo fuel in the car. Any one know what might be causing this problem ?

Thanks,

Bmw M3 Britian.

335 S · 08-07-2009, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmw M3 Britian

Hi guys,
Just bought a couple months ago a brand new Bmw M3 E92, which just had its first running in service a couple weeks ago but I have a small problem with the car. When trying to get away quite quickly, when i accelerate the car judders like it has kangaroo fuel in the car. Any one know what might be causing this problem ?

Thanks,

Bmw M3 Britian.

Like wheel hop, or fuel cut off?

gr8000 · 08-07-2009, 08:12 AM

Is it DCT or 6MT?

zuggerat89 · 08-07-2009, 08:15 AM

why are you posting here, bring that shit right back to the dealer!

335 S · 08-07-2009, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by zuggerat89

why are you posting here, bring that shit right back to the dealer!

Because he wants our advice Mr Warmth.

greenie · 08-07-2009, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by zuggerat89

why are you posting here, bring that shit right back to the dealer!

Pardon me but why are YOU posting here?

Bmw M3 Britian · 08-07-2009, 08:54 AM

Thanks for the replies,

When i first had the car my son changed all the cars settings onto sport mode and that is when i had the problem but the other day i set the settings back to default and it still judders when i pull away. It happens on low revs aswell when pulling away, so do you think it is something to do with the M settings ? and the fuel doesn't cut off and i don't think it is wheel hop aswell.

rockd · 08-07-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmw M3 Britian

Thanks for the replies,

When i first had the car my son changed all the cars settings onto sport mode and that is when i had the problem but the other day i set the settings back to default and it still judders when i pull away. It happens on low revs aswell when pulling away, so do you think it is something to do with the M settings ? and the fuel doesn't cut off and i don't think it is wheel hop aswell.

We need to know if it's DCT or 6mt...

zuggerat89 · 08-07-2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by greenie

Pardon me but why are YOU posting here?

because i'm a member here... duhhhh

zuggerat89 · 08-07-2009, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 335 S

Because he wants our advice Mr Warmth.

i know he does, that is exactly what i gave. if my car did that i would bring it back to the dealer right away... if it ends up being something serious then they can solve the problem right away rather than drive the car for a prolonged period of time and potentially cause more damage.

Silvertige · 08-07-2009, 10:22 AM

I've had this issue as well. At sport plus its even worse. The key seems to be making sure I'm smoothly pressing down on the gas. I didn't think to take it to the dealer.

eeeboy · 08-07-2009, 10:48 AM

Are you sure it's not the famous bucking Bronco?

Swancoat · 08-07-2009, 04:54 PM

I've also had this issue. Here's my best guess: Driver error.

I think what happens, is when I'm in 1st (DCT) and have the 'power' button on for increased throttle response, sometimes you hit the gas, and the car takes off really quick, but your foot may be just relaxed enough to lift slightly. So the car slows. And your foot goes down again. And so on.

I'm pretty convinced it's all because of me. Some more 'testing' is required though.

URBAN LEGEND · 08-07-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Swancoat

I've also had this issue. Here's my best guess: Driver error.

I think what happens, is when I'm in 1st (DCT) and have the 'power' button on for increased throttle response, sometimes you hit the gas, and the car takes off really quick, but your foot may be just relaxed enough to lift slightly. So the car slows. And your foot goes down again. And so on.

I'm pretty convinced it's all because of me. Some more 'testing' is required though.

Sadly I have to say it is not u. I want to say most DCT cars hesitate when taking off at not qualifying speeds. Or at least that is what it seems most people are posting. Me included.

oneginee · 08-08-2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

Sadly I have to say it is not u. I want to say most DCT cars hesitate when taking off at not qualifying speeds. Or at least that is what it seems most people are posting. Me included.

I am stunned by how many issues there are with the DCT. I stopped reading the DCT lag thread a while back but apparently there are more annoying behaviors. All can be traced back to one important factor : you do not control the clutch(es) the computer does which was my #1 reason to caution against it when people were pre-ordering in early 08.
Some people at least headed or shared that view and changed their orders back to MT.

positiveions · 08-09-2009, 12:54 PM

you know zuggerat , read the rules of this forum before you answer. We call respect for each other. If you can't perfect that, I suggest you chose a different website.

Zaint · 08-09-2009, 02:37 PM

With sifting through all the shenanigans. Good luck at finding the underlying issue and possibly the fix.

I have an '09 6MT and I can recall at most so far, 890 miles, at full clutch release - while in full sport settings - the car cutting full for some reason. A feeling like a car dieing, running out of full, or feathering a clutch. It was from coming at a stoplight with about 40-60% throttle.

It's been about 2 weeks or so since I've felt anything like that again. Maybe it's cause I haven't been using sport settings or what. Good luck with resolving your issue as well, as it seems, a few others.

Mtres · 08-09-2009, 04:25 PM

This behaviour is definitely not normal.
I have a 02/2009 DCT build. No such problems. I mosly drive on M mode, sport plus settings.
The car pulls hard at any rev range. Granted, at low revs is takes a bit more time to build speed (just like any other car), but it does not judder.
Take it back to the dealer ASAP.

It would be usefull if you could replicate this behaviour at will (gear, speed, rev range, etc).

iveman89 · 08-09-2009, 04:40 PM

i have the issue 08 DCT. I figured i have to baby it in first gear or just pin it. only when is M mode all setting to the highest

MDCTFTW · 08-09-2009, 05:05 PM

You're probably fluttering the gas pedal, but don't realize it. I get this too when coming off the line some times.

Parbox · 08-09-2009, 06:09 PM

I know exactly what you mean - I get this every now and again and either have to lift off or fully gun it.

Its quite shocking really but would be difficult to replicate for a dealer to see.

linsm3 · 08-09-2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

Sadly I have to say it is not u. I want to say most DCT cars hesitate when taking off at not qualifying speeds. Or at least that is what it seems most people are posting. Me included.

Same for me, in fact I just had my latest update and today I pulled away from a stop and AGAIN it happened. It's like I'm driving a MT and I don't know what I'm doing, at least that's the look on the guys face next to me when it happened, he was laughing. So join the DCT club, if in fact that's what you have.

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Silvertige Lieutenant Drives: 2011.75 e92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 420 iTrader: (1) Garage List 1988 BMW 535i [5.00]	I've had this issue as well. At sport plus its even worse. The key seems to be making sure I'm smoothly pressing down on the gas. I didn't think to take it to the dealer. __________________

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MDCTFTW Lieutenant Colonel Drives: E92 DCT Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 1,975 iTrader: (0)	You're probably fluttering the gas pedal, but don't realize it. I get this too when coming off the line some times. __________________ MDCT ... so you can drive and eat a hamburger at the same time.

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08-07-2009, 08:12 AM	#3
gr8000 Major Drives: E92 M3 - DCT Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 1,171 iTrader: (0)	Is it DCT or 6MT?

08-07-2009, 08:15 AM	#4
zuggerat89 Waiting... Drives: 05 ZHP Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NY Posts: 794 iTrader: (0)	why are you posting here, bring that shit right back to the dealer!

08-07-2009, 08:54 AM	#7
Bmw M3 Britian New Member Drives: Bmw M3 E92 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7 iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the replies, When i first had the car my son changed all the cars settings onto sport mode and that is when i had the problem but the other day i set the settings back to default and it still judders when i pull away. It happens on low revs aswell when pulling away, so do you think it is something to do with the M settings ? and the fuel doesn't cut off and i don't think it is wheel hop aswell.

08-07-2009, 10:48 AM	#12
eeeboy Second Lieutenant Drives: 08M3 Space Gray DCT Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Irvine Posts: 272 iTrader: (0)	Are you sure it's not the famous bucking Bronco?

08-07-2009, 04:54 PM	#13
Swancoat Private First Class Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 155 iTrader: (0)	I've also had this issue. Here's my best guess: Driver error. I think what happens, is when I'm in 1st (DCT) and have the 'power' button on for increased throttle response, sometimes you hit the gas, and the car takes off really quick, but your foot may be just relaxed enough to lift slightly. So the car slows. And your foot goes down again. And so on. I'm pretty convinced it's all because of me. Some more 'testing' is required though.

08-09-2009, 02:37 PM	#17
Zaint New Member Drives: BMW E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: STL, MO Posts: 23 iTrader: (0)	With sifting through all the shenanigans. Good luck at finding the underlying issue and possibly the fix. I have an '09 6MT and I can recall at most so far, 890 miles, at full clutch release - while in full sport settings - the car cutting full for some reason. A feeling like a car dieing, running out of full, or feathering a clutch. It was from coming at a stoplight with about 40-60% throttle. It's been about 2 weeks or so since I've felt anything like that again. Maybe it's cause I haven't been using sport settings or what. Good luck with resolving your issue as well, as it seems, a few others.

08-09-2009, 04:25 PM	#18
Mtres New Member Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portugal Posts: 21 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW [0.00]	This behaviour is definitely not normal. I have a 02/2009 DCT build. No such problems. I mosly drive on M mode, sport plus settings. The car pulls hard at any rev range. Granted, at low revs is takes a bit more time to build speed (just like any other car), but it does not judder. Take it back to the dealer ASAP. It would be usefull if you could replicate this behaviour at will (gear, speed, rev range, etc).

08-09-2009, 04:40 PM	#19
iveman89 First Lieutenant Drives: 2008 M3 E93 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: watsonville, CA Posts: 389 iTrader: (0)	i have the issue 08 DCT. I figured i have to baby it in first gear or just pin it. only when is M mode all setting to the highest

08-09-2009, 06:09 PM	#21
Parbox Enlisted Member Drives: 1M Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Surrey, UK Posts: 38 iTrader: (0)	I know exactly what you mean - I get this every now and again and either have to lift off or fully gun it. Its quite shocking really but would be difficult to replicate for a dealer to see.