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      08-08-2009, 12:51 AM   #23
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The 12-24mm has VR? Omg I want.


Wait no it doesnt, lol.

If the 80-200mm is overkill for you, then the only telephoto I would recommend is the 70-300mm VR.
nvm..

17-55 is a good decision actually. But for ~$1300 is it worth the price tag? Going to look into that..

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You will see the difference...trust me. Especially at the end of the focal lengths. At 55mm, the 17-55mm will be able to shoot at 2.8 while the 18-55mm will have to deal with a slow, bokeh-torturing f/5.6.

You get what you pay for...

Always buy used if you can see the lens in person. I got my 17-55mm for $775 from a professional and sold it for $850 when I was done
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there's a new 35mm 1.8G prime lens from Nikon made for the DX cameras only. It's around $200 new!

Just sold my 50mm 1.4D, I'm getting one very soon!
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you got sucked in by kenrockwell....

take his advice lightly cause hes biased. although I use nikons too.
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I think more beginners choose Nikon over Canon as their first DSLR is simply because Nikon has a better naming system. I think the way Canon name their cameras are rather confusing.
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I think more beginners choose Nikon over Canon as their first DSLR is simply because Nikon has a better naming system. I think the way Canon name their cameras are rather confusing.
Haha. I started with Canon since my bro was had Canon (we could just share lenses ) and I thought and still think Nikon is more confusing with all their letters, and naming system. Then again, I never really bothered to learn...

Anyway, I am going to sell my nikon gear very soon, if you are interested in any of these lenses, just shoot me a PM or something (nikon 12-24 f/4, nikon 17-55 f/2.8, nikon 10.5 f/2.8 fisheye, nikon 24 f/2.8)
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I thought and still think Nikon is more confusing with all their letters, and naming system
The only letter I'd associate with Nikon is D...


While Canon has the T1i, XSi, 5D Mk.II, 1Ds Mk.III. Like seriously how is that better than D40, D60, D90, D300, D700, D3.
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The only letter I'd associate with Nikon is D...


While Canon has the T1i, XSi, 5D Mk.II, 1Ds Mk.III. Like seriously how is that better than D40, D60, D90, D300, D700, D3.
For the bodies, you're right. My mistake, I was referring to the classification system on Nikon's lenses, e.g. the 24mm 2.8D and there is a non-D version I believe (I don't know what the D means). Then you have AF G for another letter/acronym, AF-S, AF-I, ED, IF, and whatever else there is. For Canon lenses, we mainly just have the the EF and EF-S, IS, TS-E. Maybe Nikon's makes sense but I just haven't bothered to learn the acronyms.
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yea canon was a confusing choice when i was a newb. but then again i was newb.
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You will see the difference...trust me. Especially at the end of the focal lengths. At 55mm, the 17-55mm will be able to shoot at 2.8 while the 18-55mm will have to deal with a slow, bokeh-torturing f/5.6.

You get what you pay for...

Always buy used if you can see the lens in person. I got my 17-55mm for $775 from a professional and sold it for $850 when I was done
The problem is I am not a professional. I just started using DSLR 1 year ago.. Is it worth $1000 over a similiar lens (18-55)?

Because I was pretty happy with with 18-55 and 55-200 except the fact that it was annoying to switch the lens. But it seems like everyone doesn't really like that lens..
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The problem is I am not a professional. I just started using DSLR 1 year ago.. Is it worth $1000 over a similiar lens (18-55)?

Because I was pretty happy with with 18-55 and 55-200 except the fact that it was annoying to switch the lens. But it seems like everyone doesn't really like that lens..
So you liked the 18-55mm and 55-200mm but didn't like switching between the lenses...you're looking for the 18-200mm.
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So you liked the 18-55mm and 55-200mm but didn't like switching between the lenses...you're looking for the 18-200mm.
made my mind. Going with the 12-24Mm Nikon

Can anyone recommend a good 77MM filter. Looking at Hoya but it cost ~$70 for the UV ones.
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The only letter I'd associate with Nikon is D...


While Canon has the T1i, XSi, 5D Mk.II, 1Ds Mk.III. Like seriously how is that better than D40, D60, D90, D300, D700, D3.
canon gave USA the retarded name system. everywhere else its the 350d, 400d, 450d, 500d, 40d, 50d, 5d mk.2, 1ds mk 3..
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made my mind. Going with the 12-24Mm Nikon

Can anyone recommend a good 77MM filter. Looking at Hoya but it cost ~$70 for the UV ones.
B&W FTW
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I have a d40 and a d90,I also have a 18-55,18-105vr,18-200vr lenses.My favorite lense is the 18-200vr lense because I can do everything with it.
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