BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > M3 (E90 / E92 / E93) > General M3 Forum (E90 + E92 + E93)
 
Steve Thomas BMW
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      09-25-2009, 02:33 PM   #1
swamp2
Lieutenant General
 
swamp2's Avatar
 
Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: San Diego, CA USA

Posts: 10,188
iTrader: (1)

M3 sales volume - 100k units possible?

BMWs goal was to sell 100,000 E9X M3s. Will they do it?

There was some lively discussion on this topic in the past. Certainly we would think the global recession would impact this goal. Recall that just under 86,000 E46 M3s were sold world wide. How is the new M3 doing thus far?

Quote:
The ideal start: The new BMW M3 more successful than the predecessor by nearly 100 per cent.

No less than 14,589 BMW M3 models were sold already 14 months after the start of production; of these, 11,485 were sold between January and August of this year alone. The number of new BMW M3 models sold in the first year of production was nearly double that of the predecessor model at the same time in its lifecycle.
-Source BMW

Depending on how you extrapolate to year 1 numbers BMW is just on target or just below target. Anyone have 2009 YTD figures? How about links to locations for very complete BMW sales data? I always find this data tough to locate.
__________________
E92 M3 | Space Gray on Fox Red | M-DCT | CF Roof | RAC RG63 Wheels | Brembo 380mm BBK |
| Vorsteiner Ti Exhaust | Matte Black Grilles/Side Gills/Rear Emblem/Mirrors |
| Alekshop Back up Camera | GP Thunders | BMW Aluminum Pedals | Elite Angels |
| XPEL Full Front Wrap | Hardwired V1 | Interior Xenon Light Kit |
swamp2 is online now   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      09-25-2009, 02:36 PM   #2
duk
///M
 
Drives: 2011 AW/FR 6MT E92
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: San Jose, CA

Posts: 2,943
iTrader: (0)

i dont think they will make it in this economy and fuel efficiency madness
__________________
2011 AW/FR 6MT E92 | Powered by Premier | Alekshop | ESS |
Rok n Peace Clothing: www.roknpeace.com

duk is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      09-25-2009, 02:52 PM   #3
Technic
Lieutenant General
 
Technic's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 E92 M3, 2014 528i
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida

Posts: 10,980
iTrader: (17)

Garage List
2004 M3  [0.00]
I think that BMW will move considerably less than 100,000 M3 as they already deeply cut production this year and most probably they will also cut one full model year of the M3 when they start the push of the F30 3-Series by MY2012/13.
Technic is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      09-25-2009, 03:03 PM   #4
gr8000
Major
 
gr8000's Avatar
 
Drives: E92 M3 - DCT
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Athens, Greece

Posts: 1,172
iTrader: (0)

Send a message via AIM to gr8000
Very highly unlikely IMO - not even close.

State of economy & competition are 2 reasons, although on the other hand the NA high-reving V8 is all reasons in the world for people to start snaping more and more E9x M3s especially as we move out of the economic drama and when official info is released confirming that the next M3 will definitely be FI...
gr8000 is offline   Greece
0
Reply With Quote
      09-25-2009, 03:09 PM   #5
Koroush
Lieutenant
 
Koroush's Avatar
 
Drives: nothing
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Maryland

Posts: 401
iTrader: (0)

Good for us.

We will become unique.
__________________
Koroush is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
      09-25-2009, 03:13 PM   #6
MJC///M3
Colonel
 
MJC///M3's Avatar
 
Drives: 09 SSII E92 M3
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Bronx, NYC

Posts: 2,327
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Koroush View Post
Good for us.

We will become unique.
still rare to see one in my parts.....
__________________
"You will get there, but it is up to you and you alone. It is what you are willing to do, and how you are willing to get there. You must be relentless, you must be tireless, you must pursue at all costs, so that you are ready, when the time is right." -Dad
MJC///M3 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      09-25-2009, 05:46 PM   #7
Crazy Bimmer
The Jesal
 
Crazy Bimmer's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 M3
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Chicago IL

Posts: 5,830
iTrader: (19)

Garage List
2009 BMW M3  [0.00]
Send a message via AIM to Crazy Bimmer
I always been meaning to ask how many 09s they sold after they cut production.

Anyone know?
__________________
2009 E90 M3 - SOLD
Crazy Bimmer is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      09-25-2009, 06:14 PM   #8
vinnycg
Captain
 
Drives: 2005 Infiniti G35 Coupe
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: New York

Posts: 710
iTrader: (1)

I'm pretty new to the bmw scene but my thoughts are this V8 is killing the M3 sales right now. I personally love it but v8's across the board are just not the way to go in today's industry(lexus isf, audi s5, c63). Although I have no factual data to prove this, in my eyes none of these vehicles have sold well.

My thoughts are that BMW will either have to bring the new model m3 w/v6tt out earlier than expected OR they will put that motor in the e90-93 body style at some point. I don't think they can afford to wait until 2014..

I know the M3 is a niche vehicle and people who buy them aren't concerned with gas mileage but rather the performance and everything else that comes with the car. But I can't help but feel that overall the market is just not the same. I'm happy about this because I think we definiely have a classic in the making in our hands.

Again I could be very wrong with above. This is just what I'm feeling at this pont.


-Vin
vinnycg is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      09-25-2009, 06:44 PM   #9
linsm3
Lieutenant
 
Drives: E92 08 M3 AW
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago

Posts: 500
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MJC///M3 View Post
still rare to see one in my parts.....
Me too I live in an urban area and go into the city a lot and have only seen one or two, that's the part I like not to mention the car is really fun.
__________________
Vorsteiner front lip molded and painted no reflectors*type II diffuser*single side CF trunk*Blk grilles*side markers w/ dark tint*40% tint*H&R springs*Macht Schnell spacers*BBS-LM 19"*Eisenmann Racing*Hardwired Escort 9500ci radar/laser system*Brembo 380MM BBK*GIRLS RULE!
linsm3 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      09-25-2009, 11:24 PM   #10
m3sparky
First Lieutenant
 
m3sparky's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 gtr be
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: roseville ca

Posts: 320
iTrader: (2)

i live in a pretty big city and just see em like once a month here, so they are not common dd here at all.
m3sparky is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      09-26-2009, 12:00 AM   #11
Murderface
Enlisted Member
 
Drives: 2008 E90 M3
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Houston, TX

Posts: 30
iTrader: (0)

No way. They would have to sustain this rate until the very last car rolls of the line, which would probably be an industry first.
Murderface is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      09-26-2009, 12:07 AM   #12
panbo
Private First Class
 
panbo's Avatar
 
Drives: 08 6mt
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: NA

Posts: 148
iTrader: (0)

i think they are lucky if they sell 3/4 of that number. E9x price jumped a bit from E46 M3 is not helping either.
panbo is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      09-26-2009, 02:13 AM   #13
swamp2
Lieutenant General
 
swamp2's Avatar
 
Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: San Diego, CA USA

Posts: 10,188
iTrader: (1)

I am surprised at all the folks certain they won't make it. Sure the economy in 2009 was worse than 2008 but 2008 was pretty bad. Judging by the market drop only 2008 was worse. Nonetheless BMW was basically on target. I am not saying they will make it for sure and the economy will definitely make it more unlikely but it is not like they are only going to sell 50k of them either. The car still has a ton going for it. Great price (base price...), class leading peformance, darling of the press (as usual), amazing V8, etc. Only time will tell.
__________________
E92 M3 | Space Gray on Fox Red | M-DCT | CF Roof | RAC RG63 Wheels | Brembo 380mm BBK |
| Vorsteiner Ti Exhaust | Matte Black Grilles/Side Gills/Rear Emblem/Mirrors |
| Alekshop Back up Camera | GP Thunders | BMW Aluminum Pedals | Elite Angels |
| XPEL Full Front Wrap | Hardwired V1 | Interior Xenon Light Kit |
swamp2 is online now   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-09-2009, 09:13 PM   #14
graider
Colonel
 
graider's Avatar
 
Drives: py/kiwi e46 m3
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: toronto

Posts: 2,408
iTrader: (0)

anyone have sale number for the m3? interest to know.
graider is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-10-2009, 12:33 PM   #15
southlight
Moderator / European Editor
 
southlight's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Germany

Posts: 6,748
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by graider View Post
anyone have sale number for the m3? interest to know.
We only have global sales numbers for 2008 so far:

200817,993
E92 M310,571
E93 M304,169
E90 M303,253



Best regards,
south
__________________
Those forums...WHY NOT?


JOIN THE 6MT CLUB GROUP
southlight is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-10-2009, 12:55 PM   #16
duk
///M
 
Drives: 2011 AW/FR 6MT E92
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: San Jose, CA

Posts: 2,943
iTrader: (0)

70k if lucky
__________________
2011 AW/FR 6MT E92 | Powered by Premier | Alekshop | ESS |
Rok n Peace Clothing: www.roknpeace.com

duk is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-10-2009, 01:06 PM   #17
isugoo
Major General
 
isugoo's Avatar
 
Drives: 14 M5 CP
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Irvine, CA

Posts: 5,686
iTrader: (61)

Quote:
Originally Posted by southlight View Post
We only have global sales numbers for 2008 so far:

200817,993
E92 M310,571
E93 M304,169
E90 M303,253



Best regards,
south
I didn't realized sedan was that rare. Thanks for sharing.
__________________

PAST: 11 E70 X5M | 08 E90 M3 | 08 E92 335i | 03.5 E46 M3 | 99 E36 M3
isugoo is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-10-2009, 01:16 PM   #18
Technic
Lieutenant General
 
Technic's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 E92 M3, 2014 528i
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida

Posts: 10,980
iTrader: (17)

Garage List
2004 M3  [0.00]
Let's see... BMW already cut production, the E90 M3 could be out of production two years before the traditional new M3 introduction, and E92/E93 will follow a year before if BMW goes thru their plan of introducing the new 3-Series one year earlier than normal.

Unless there is a mayor increase of sales from now to MY2012 (the new M3 should show up by MY2014 instead of MY2015) then I don't see how BMW will hit even 60,000 units. Which will be a great increase over the ~45,000 E46 units, by the way...
Technic is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-10-2009, 01:26 PM   #19
graider
Colonel
 
graider's Avatar
 
Drives: py/kiwi e46 m3
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: toronto

Posts: 2,408
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by southlight View Post
We only have global sales numbers for 2008 so far:

200817,993
E92 M310,571
E93 M304,169
E90 M303,253



Best regards,
south
based on that number in this economy crisis, I think approx 80,000 is the final number.
graider is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-10-2009, 01:33 PM   #20
JOHNBMWM5
Live for today tomorrow never comes
 
JOHNBMWM5's Avatar
 
Drives: 2015 M6 GC CP
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: UK

Posts: 5,242
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Technic View Post
Let's see... BMW already cut production, the E90 M3 could be out of production two years before the traditional new M3 introduction, and E92/E93 will follow a year before if BMW goes thru their plan of introducing the new 3-Series one year earlier than normal.

Unless there is a mayor increase of sales from now to MY2012 (the new M3 should show up by MY2014 instead of MY2015) then I don't see how BMW will hit even 60,000 units. Which will be a great increase over the ~45,000 E46 units, by the way...
I just ordered the M3 E90 M-DCT saloon this week, supposed to come early December, nice to see just how rare these cars are.
I hope it looks as good as this picture as mine will be the same.
Attached Images
 
JOHNBMWM5 is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      10-10-2009, 01:42 PM   #21
Crazy Bimmer
The Jesal
 
Crazy Bimmer's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 M3
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Chicago IL

Posts: 5,830
iTrader: (19)

Garage List
2009 BMW M3  [0.00]
Send a message via AIM to Crazy Bimmer
Quote:
Originally Posted by isugoo View Post
I didn't realized sedan was that rare. Thanks for sharing.

+1

Great info.

Cant wait to see 09 numbers.
__________________
2009 E90 M3 - SOLD
Crazy Bimmer is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-10-2009, 01:44 PM   #22
swamp2
Lieutenant General
 
swamp2's Avatar
 
Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: San Diego, CA USA

Posts: 10,188
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by southlight View Post
We only have global sales numbers for 2008 so far:

200817,993
E92 M310,571
E93 M304,169
E90 M303,253



Best regards,
south
Source please! Thanks.
__________________
E92 M3 | Space Gray on Fox Red | M-DCT | CF Roof | RAC RG63 Wheels | Brembo 380mm BBK |
| Vorsteiner Ti Exhaust | Matte Black Grilles/Side Gills/Rear Emblem/Mirrors |
| Alekshop Back up Camera | GP Thunders | BMW Aluminum Pedals | Elite Angels |
| XPEL Full Front Wrap | Hardwired V1 | Interior Xenon Light Kit |
swamp2 is online now   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:00 AM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST