Eibach? H & R? Or other?

leeor · 08-01-2009, 08:47 PM

Eibach springs? H&R Springs? Or something else?

i was told eibach had a pretty smooth ride, what do you reccomend?

dawgdog · 08-01-2009, 08:57 PM

I have been happy with H&R sport. Cannot comment on Eibach.

Lemans_Blue_M · 08-01-2009, 10:19 PM

Eibach or Dinan.

powertrip · 08-01-2009, 10:22 PM

I'll have Eibachs on Monday...so I'll letcha know my thoughts

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FStop7 · 08-01-2009, 11:10 PM

Eibachs are progressive rate which is not ideal. H&R are stiffer and linear rate but IMO they are a little too low in the front. What I would like is a set of springs with an Eibach type drop that have the stiffness of H&R.

Ultimately I think coilovers are the way to go. They cost a lot more but they ride better than springs when set up correctly and they offer the best improvement in handling.

I have H&Rs now, but I think I'm going to be replacing them w/ KW V3 sooner or later.

Lemans_Blue_M · 08-02-2009, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FStop7

Eibachs are progressive rate which is not ideal. H&R are stiffer and linear rate but IMO they are a little too low in the front. What I would like is a set of springs with an Eibach type drop that have the stiffness of H&R.

Ultimately I think coilovers are the way to go. They cost a lot more but they ride better than springs when set up correctly and they offer the best improvement in handling.

I have H&Rs now, but I think I'm going to be replacing them w/ KW V3 sooner or later.

Yes, Eibach springs are progressive rate...but so are H&R Sport springs, RD Sport springs, and Dinan high-performance springs.

The only difference between all these progressive rate springs, is the stiffness of the spring wire used to manufacture them.

leeor · 08-02-2009, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemans_Blue_M

Yes, Eibach springs are progressive rate...but so are H&R Sport springs, RD Sport springs, and Dinan high-performance springs.

The only difference between all these progressive rate springs, is the stiffness of the spring wire used to manufacture them.

so which do you preffer quality wise, and comfort wise?

Lemans_Blue_M · 08-02-2009, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeor

so which do you preffer quality wise, and comfort wise?

Eibach.

Best aftermarket sport springs on the market IMO.

Dinan is a close second...

slo_guy · 08-02-2009, 06:21 AM

I went with the Eibach because it less aggressive. I've had them for three months and can't say anything bad about them because they feel just a tad bitter stiffer than stock in comfort mode. Sport mode is a different story...

imballin2day · 08-02-2009, 05:12 PM

I had Eibach on my last car and now with the M3 I have H&R. The Eibachs dramatically changed the stiffness in my ride. You could tell there was a change in ride quality. With the H&R's the change in ride comfort was minimal. I would recommend the H&R's for looks and comfort.

J08M3 · 08-02-2009, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imballin2day

I had Eibach on my last car and now with the M3 I have H&R. The Eibachs dramatically changed the stiffness in my ride. You could tell there was a change in ride quality. With the H&R's the change in ride comfort was minimal. I would recommend the H&R's for looks and comfort.

For the exact opposite reason I suggest the Eibachs. I'm happy with them for a few months now.

SV Concepts III · 08-02-2009, 06:33 PM

Not a bad choice either way, I would do the H&R between the two mainly because I prefer the look of H&R over the Eibach.

leeor · 08-02-2009, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick@Jlevi SW

Not a bad choice either way, I would do the H&R between the two mainly because I prefer the look of H&R over the Eibach.

when you say look, you mean the 0.2 drop difference in the front?

powertrip · 08-02-2009, 09:15 PM

Interesting...I've heard the exact opposite of what you're describing. In fact two of my buddies so far have switched from H&R on their E92's. One guy went to Eibach (which I'm having installed on Monday), and the other guy went with the Dinans. Both are happy with their new set-ups, but I must agree that the H&R's look great.

Quote:

Originally Posted by imballin2day

I had Eibach on my last car and now with the M3 I have H&R. The Eibachs dramatically changed the stiffness in my ride. You could tell there was a change in ride quality. With the H&R's the change in ride comfort was minimal. I would recommend the H&R's for looks and comfort.

powertrip · 08-04-2009, 01:23 AM

Okay, so I just got my car back after having the Eibachs installed. I can confirm first hand that my car rides much smoother than my neighbors e92 with H&R's. The car feels great in normal and sport, but it's a bit "busy" in comfort. That's not much of a problem though, as I never have the car in comfort mode. IMO the drop is just right...it doesn't look slammed, but it doesn't have as much gap in front as the Dinans. This is a wonderful mod in my opinion and highly recommend Eibach

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SV Concepts III · 08-04-2009, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeor

when you say look, you mean the 0.2 drop difference in the front?

Right, the H&Rs have a slight rake to them which I like over the Eibachs. It gives the car a cat like stance, almost like it's about to pounce.

dcstep · 08-04-2009, 12:35 PM

If you're mainly concerned with the drop, the Eibach is probably the best bet. If you want to maintain street and track performance but don't want to go to coilovers, then look to the Dinan kit which has an ideal spring rate for the EDC and provides hats and bump stops to match the spring changes.

I've not riden in an HR car, but what I read in many threads here is that they're harsher.

I've got the Dinan kit.

Dave

powertrip · 08-04-2009, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcstep

If you're mainly concerned with the drop, the Eibach is probably the best bet. If you want to maintain street and track performance but don't want to go to coilovers, then look to the Dinan kit which has an ideal spring rate for the EDC and provides hats and bump stops to match the spring changes.

I've not riden in an HR car, but what I read in many threads here is that they're harsher.

I've got the Dinan kit.

Dave

Eibach feels great on the street and in the canyon

. I haven't tracked it yet, but I'll post up a review once I do.

leeor · 08-04-2009, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeor

when you say look, you mean the 0.2 drop difference in the front?

response i was waiting for mostly. Thanks!

other then that, thanks for all the great reviews and thoughts etc. I think ill stick to the eibachs.

CSanto · 08-04-2009, 02:48 PM

Thanks for the little review!

Ryan@IND · 08-04-2009, 05:17 PM

this is a great mini review on springs... would have liked to see a poll, though!

Moxie · 08-25-2009, 12:53 PM

Looks wise, I like the Eibachs - HR's look uneven - too low in the back compared to the front.

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dawgdog Colonel Drives: 08 e92 M3 dct Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Seattle, Wa. Posts: 2,075 iTrader: (0)	I have been happy with H&R sport. Cannot comment on Eibach. __________________ AW on Fox Red Extended, Alum trim, ZPP, ZTP, DCT, 19" wheels, Heated front seats, HD radio, Sat radio, I-pod & usb, Premium sound, AP racing BBK, 18 Volk Racing TE 37s, Akrapovic Evolution exhaust, AST suspension

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08-01-2009, 10:22 PM	#4
powertrip Scared money don't make money. Drives: 2009 E92 M3 DCT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 1,459 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2009 E92 M3 [0.00]	I'll have Eibachs on Monday...so I'll letcha know my thoughts . __________________ 2009 E92 M3/DCT/Alpine White/Fox Red/Carbon Leather OE Tuned 402 whp & 303 wtq/Gintani X-pipe/MXP Axle Back/Rogue Pulley/AFE Stage 2/Cosmetics By IND & EAS HUGE THANKS: Gintani, OE Tuning, and EAS

08-01-2009, 11:10 PM	#5
FStop7 I like cars Drives: M6 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Newbury Park, CA Posts: 5,061 iTrader: (3)	Eibachs are progressive rate which is not ideal. H&R are stiffer and linear rate but IMO they are a little too low in the front. What I would like is a set of springs with an Eibach type drop that have the stiffness of H&R. Ultimately I think coilovers are the way to go. They cost a lot more but they ride better than springs when set up correctly and they offer the best improvement in handling. I have H&Rs now, but I think I'm going to be replacing them w/ KW V3 sooner or later. __________________ My photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/racelap/

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slo_guy First Lieutenant Drives: a car Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 399 iTrader: (3)	I went with the Eibach because it less aggressive. I've had them for three months and can't say anything bad about them because they feel just a tad bitter stiffer than stock in comfort mode. Sport mode is a different story...

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imballin2day Banned Drives: M3 Dct Coupe Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: LA Posts: 584 iTrader: (1)	I had Eibach on my last car and now with the M3 I have H&R. The Eibachs dramatically changed the stiffness in my ride. You could tell there was a change in ride quality. With the H&R's the change in ride comfort was minimal. I would recommend the H&R's for looks and comfort.

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SV Concepts III Lieutenant General Drives: BMW Duh Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Santa Clara Posts: 17,029 iTrader: (13)	Not a bad choice either way, I would do the H&R between the two mainly because I prefer the look of H&R over the Eibach.

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powertrip Scared money don't make money. Drives: 2009 E92 M3 DCT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 1,459 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2009 E92 M3 [0.00]	Okay, so I just got my car back after having the Eibachs installed. I can confirm first hand that my car rides much smoother than my neighbors e92 with H&R's. The car feels great in normal and sport, but it's a bit "busy" in comfort. That's not much of a problem though, as I never have the car in comfort mode. IMO the drop is just right...it doesn't look slammed, but it doesn't have as much gap in front as the Dinans. This is a wonderful mod in my opinion and highly recommend Eibach . __________________ 2009 E92 M3/DCT/Alpine White/Fox Red/Carbon Leather OE Tuned 402 whp & 303 wtq/Gintani X-pipe/MXP Axle Back/Rogue Pulley/AFE Stage 2/Cosmetics By IND & EAS HUGE THANKS: Gintani, OE Tuning, and EAS

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dcstep Brigadier General Drives: '09 Cpe Silverstone FR 6MT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,927 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 M3 [4.00]	If you're mainly concerned with the drop, the Eibach is probably the best bet. If you want to maintain street and track performance but don't want to go to coilovers, then look to the Dinan kit which has an ideal spring rate for the EDC and provides hats and bump stops to match the spring changes. I've not riden in an HR car, but what I read in many threads here is that they're harsher. I've got the Dinan kit. Dave __________________ Flickr Photos Ucm, Inc.

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CSanto Major Drives: 2009 E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New York Posts: 1,319 iTrader: (1)	Thanks for the little review!

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Ryan@IND BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: M3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,255 iTrader: (16)	this is a great mini review on springs... would have liked to see a poll, though!

08-25-2009, 12:53 PM	#22
Moxie Lieutenant Colonel Drives: AW E90 M3/SG 335d Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Stuttgart Posts: 1,777 iTrader: (10)	Looks wise, I like the Eibachs - HR's look uneven - too low in the back compared to the front.

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