Regrets in dropping?

SWOLE · 07-24-2009, 06:19 PM

I was wondering if anyone has any regrets in putting new springs on their car. Specifically, if anyone finds that they tend to scrape on seemingly everything they go over.

I have a set of H&Rs sitting in my garage and I am so close to putting them on but I am still wondering if I will be bothered with constant scraping issues.

If no one seems to be dealing with these issues then I will put them on this weekend. But if you are dealing with scraping, please chime in with your thoughts. I am also curious to know whether it's the bumper that scrapes or the little felt covered boxes flanking the lower lip that scrapes? Thanks all.

Cheers,
Tom

Lemans_Blue_M · 07-24-2009, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWOLE

I was wondering if anyone has any regrets in putting new springs on their car. Specifically, if anyone finds that they tend to scrape on seemingly everything they go over.

I have a set of H&Rs sitting in my garage and I am so close to putting them on but I am still wondering if I will be bothered with constant scraping issues.

If no one seems to be dealing with these issues then I will put them on this weekend. But if you are dealing with scraping, please chime in with your thoughts. I am also curious to know whether it's the bumper that scrapes or the little felt covered boxes flanking the lower lip that scrapes? Thanks all.

Cheers,
Tom

I'm thinking of going with Eibach myself, due to the same concerns you have now. H&R springs lower the car more in the front and back, so the scraping thing is more of an issue them and less so with the other brands.

I will predict that guys who installed H&R springs will complain about scrapping, performance, or ride comfort...while the DINAN and EIBACH guys will be almost universally happy with their purchase.

Just a hunch...

J08M3 · 07-24-2009, 07:07 PM

On Eibachs and still happy...

MrHarris · 07-24-2009, 07:16 PM

I never scraped w/ stock front, but once I added the VRS front lip I do scrap on certain driveways that's almost unavoidable, even when putting the suspension in sport mode.

As far as speed bumps go, don't worry about scraping just worrying about short inclines that are steep.

rominl · 07-24-2009, 07:33 PM

i regret not putting them earlier. i scrape here and there but i don't really care coz' it's a lease car

but as long as you drive careful and go over things at angle if needed, the H&R aren't going to be a problem. my other cars (that i own) are even lower and i hardly scrape them

SWOLE · 07-24-2009, 08:48 PM

Thanks for all your responses. Sounds like I should go ahead and install the springs and enjoy the better look and performance associated with the swap!

imballin2day · 07-24-2009, 08:56 PM

When I was stock I would NEVER scrape coming out of my driveway. Now with H&R it is very hard not to scrape. I tend to scrape on some driveways and dips. But it is definetly worth the drop imo.

SWOLE · 07-24-2009, 09:54 PM

Thanks for your inputs. Are you all hitting the bumper or the aforementioned felt boxes?

MrHarris · 07-25-2009, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SWOLE

Thanks for your inputs. Are you all hitting the bumper or the aforementioned felt boxes?

felt box w/ stock bumper, lip after installing a lip.

elm3 · 07-25-2009, 06:53 PM

H&Rs on my car and I have not scraped at all, so far. The ride is better than stock, not bouncy at all, like others have thought. Trust me, you won't regret it.

Nawaaz · 07-25-2009, 08:09 PM

The way I drive......I'd be scraping too much with springs. I'll just stay with the stock suspension. I'm very impressed with it so far.

///MWorld · 07-25-2009, 09:54 PM

Ride is not as good as stock. Definitely bouncier on shitty roads. I only scrape the felt occasionally. I have no lip.

Ca$hOnly · 07-25-2009, 11:16 PM

Springs barely drop the car. Just be a little more careful with bumps and driveways. Easy and at an angle usually does it.

disruptv · 07-26-2009, 11:01 AM

cashonly

i love ur m3! its put together so well!

onefastdoc · 07-26-2009, 09:16 PM

Here are pics of my H&R drop.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=284692

The ride is slightly stiffer, but completely tolerable. I drive around with my wife and 2 year old in the back and she says that the ride in her Rav4 is rougher.

It is lower, and you need to be careful entering driveways and over speed bumps. If I don't approach at an angle, I scrape on a lot of the driveways in L.A.

When I had my 335i, I had a set of H&R springs laying around in the house and never installed them. I wish I had installed them because I love the springs on my M3.

NFDoms2k1 · 07-27-2009, 10:45 AM

I'd say it would depend on where you lived and what the road conditions are there. I would assume that being in a place with a limited freeze-thaw cycle and normal traffic, the roads are ion decent condition. Also, places like that tend to have smoother transitions from street to driveways, both public and private. As such with the coupe and its decent but not extreme drop you should be fine.

As for myself, I've got H&Rs on my vert with the stock 19s. Even though H&R supposedly made the E93 springs stiffer and such to allow for the extra weight, I definitely rub all the time and the car is VERY low both at the wheelwells and at the lip. This combined with the fact I live in NYC (I'm convinced worst roads in America) make me contemplate switching back to stock every day, as I am forced to drive like a granny half the time. I actually just detailed my car yesterday and was shocked with how much rubber was on the inside of my fenders. The reason the springs always win out though is that the car looks significantly better, plus when I actually am on smooth, fast highway the ride is much much smoother.

AMPowerJ · 07-27-2009, 11:07 AM

Dropped with Dinan and I am glad I did it. The pictures don't really do a good job of representing the drop but is in perfect in my opinion for a daily driver.

PunjabiM3 · 07-27-2009, 12:21 PM

No regrets on the H&R springs. I think the front looks much better than stock and honestly I do not think there would be too much fender gap with the Eibach and especially Dinan springs. Only question is the long term effects on the struts, but probably by then it will be time to get something else.

FrenchBoy · 07-27-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PunjabiM3

No regrets on the H&R springs. I think the front looks much better than stock and honestly I do not think there would be too much fender gap with the Eibach and especially Dinan springs. Only question is the long term effects on the struts, but probably by then it will be time to get something else.

Can you clarify? You mean the fender gap with the Eibach or Dinan is not enough, or do you feel that it's okay (i.e. better than stock).

All the cars that I have personally seen are on H&Rs and I really like the drop they provide (Dawgdog's drop is just about perfect to me) so that's probably the route I'll go.
I wish I saw a car with the Eibach's drop in person to make my final decision. On photos, it feels like the Eibach's drop is not quite enough in the front.

duk · 07-28-2009, 11:02 PM

I will lower my car not mainly for looks but for preformance. Going with Eibachs all the way. Nothing against H&R but the raked look is not for me.

rominl · 07-29-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by duk

I will lower my car not mainly for looks but for preformance. Going with Eibachs all the way. Nothing against H&R but the raked look is not for me.

agree, exactly the reason why i put e92 springs on my e93

Eugene-TAIWAN · 07-29-2009, 11:04 PM

dropping the car is a must!! in my case

07-24-2009, 06:19 PM	#1
SWOLE Private Drives: This week? Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Apex, NC Posts: 93 iTrader: (5)	Regrets in dropping? I was wondering if anyone has any regrets in putting new springs on their car. Specifically, if anyone finds that they tend to scrape on seemingly everything they go over. I have a set of H&Rs sitting in my garage and I am so close to putting them on but I am still wondering if I will be bothered with constant scraping issues. If no one seems to be dealing with these issues then I will put them on this weekend. But if you are dealing with scraping, please chime in with your thoughts. I am also curious to know whether it's the bumper that scrapes or the little felt covered boxes flanking the lower lip that scrapes? Thanks all. Cheers, Tom
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07-24-2009, 07:07 PM	#3
J08M3 Major General Drives: 2011 M3 COUPE Join Date: May 2008 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 6,015 iTrader: (8)	On Eibachs and still happy... __________________

07-24-2009, 07:16 PM	#4
MrHarris yodog Drives: '86 Corolla Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Diamond Bar, Ca Posts: 5,032 iTrader: (5) Garage List 2009 BMW [5.00]	I never scraped w/ stock front, but once I added the VRS front lip I do scrap on certain driveways that's almost unavoidable, even when putting the suspension in sport mode. As far as speed bumps go, don't worry about scraping just worrying about short inclines that are steep. __________________ 2009 E92 M3 \| Alpine White \| Black Extended \| Advan RS \| Turner Test Pipes \| Dinan Axle-Back \| OETuning \| Eibach Springs \| UUC SSK \| VRS Front Lip \| VRS Type I Diffuser \| Matte Black \| RPi Scoops \| MS Filter \| Yokohama AD08 \| F1 Pinnacle Special Thanks: Gintani \| OETuning \| eAs

07-24-2009, 07:33 PM	#5
rominl Second Lieutenant Drives: M3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 277 iTrader: (0)	i regret not putting them earlier. i scrape here and there but i don't really care coz' it's a lease car but as long as you drive careful and go over things at angle if needed, the H&R aren't going to be a problem. my other cars (that i own) are even lower and i hardly scrape them __________________

07-25-2009, 06:53 PM	#10
elm3 M3 Lover Drives: 2009 e92 M3 Interlagos Blue Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canton, GA. Posts: 1,660 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2009 E92 M3 [5.00] 2002 Nissan Xterra ... [0.50] 2004 Yamaha R1 [0.00]	H&Rs on my car and I have not scraped at all, so far. The ride is better than stock, not bouncy at all, like others have thought. Trust me, you won't regret it. __________________ '09 E92 ///M3 Interlagos Blue, 6MT, Silver Novillo Leather, CF Trim, Premium Package, Technology Package, Cold Weather Package, Premium Sound, 19" Wheels, Moonroof-Toy//'02 Nissan Xterra- Daily Driver/ '04 Yamaha R1- Toy/'06Yamaha Raptor 350- Toy

07-24-2009, 08:48 PM	#6
SWOLE Private Drives: This week? Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Apex, NC Posts: 93 iTrader: (5)	Thanks for all your responses. Sounds like I should go ahead and install the springs and enjoy the better look and performance associated with the swap!

07-24-2009, 08:56 PM	#7
imballin2day Banned Drives: M3 Dct Coupe Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: LA Posts: 584 iTrader: (1)	When I was stock I would NEVER scrape coming out of my driveway. Now with H&R it is very hard not to scrape. I tend to scrape on some driveways and dips. But it is definetly worth the drop imo.

07-24-2009, 09:54 PM	#8
SWOLE Private Drives: This week? Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Apex, NC Posts: 93 iTrader: (5)	Thanks for your inputs. Are you all hitting the bumper or the aforementioned felt boxes?

07-25-2009, 08:09 PM	#11
Nawaaz Brigadier General Drives: . Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: . Posts: 4,647 iTrader: (0)	The way I drive......I'd be scraping too much with springs. I'll just stay with the stock suspension. I'm very impressed with it so far.

07-25-2009, 09:54 PM	#12
///MWorld Second Lieutenant Drives: '08 E92 M3 6MT Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: L.A. Posts: 295 iTrader: (0)	Ride is not as good as stock. Definitely bouncier on shitty roads. I only scrape the felt occasionally. I have no lip.

07-25-2009, 11:16 PM	#13
Ca$hOnly Major Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: In ur fridge, eatin ur foodz Posts: 1,063 iTrader: (5)	Springs barely drop the car. Just be a little more careful with bumps and driveways. Easy and at an angle usually does it. __________________

07-26-2009, 11:01 AM	#14
disruptv Major Drives: 3M Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: ny Posts: 1,122 iTrader: (10) Garage List 09 3m [0.00]	cashonly i love ur m3! its put together so well!

07-26-2009, 09:16 PM	#15
onefastdoc First Lieutenant Drives: 2008 E90 M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: L.A. Posts: 313 iTrader: (2)	Here are pics of my H&R drop. http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=284692 The ride is slightly stiffer, but completely tolerable. I drive around with my wife and 2 year old in the back and she says that the ride in her Rav4 is rougher. It is lower, and you need to be careful entering driveways and over speed bumps. If I don't approach at an angle, I scrape on a lot of the driveways in L.A. When I had my 335i, I had a set of H&R springs laying around in the house and never installed them. I wish I had installed them because I love the springs on my M3. __________________ *OneFastDoc* 2012 R35 GT-R (559whp) 2008 E90 M3 2007 E92 335i (369whp, 354wtq) sold 2004 G35 Coupe sold

07-27-2009, 10:45 AM	#16
NFDoms2k1 Private First Class Drives: Cute Little Convertible Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New York Posts: 149 iTrader: (2)	I'd say it would depend on where you lived and what the road conditions are there. I would assume that being in a place with a limited freeze-thaw cycle and normal traffic, the roads are ion decent condition. Also, places like that tend to have smoother transitions from street to driveways, both public and private. As such with the coupe and its decent but not extreme drop you should be fine. As for myself, I've got H&Rs on my vert with the stock 19s. Even though H&R supposedly made the E93 springs stiffer and such to allow for the extra weight, I definitely rub all the time and the car is VERY low both at the wheelwells and at the lip. This combined with the fact I live in NYC (I'm convinced worst roads in America) make me contemplate switching back to stock every day, as I am forced to drive like a granny half the time. I actually just detailed my car yesterday and was shocked with how much rubber was on the inside of my fenders. The reason the springs always win out though is that the car looks significantly better, plus when I actually am on smooth, fast highway the ride is much much smoother. __________________ '09 E93 M3, AW, M-DCT, Fully Loaded Bunch of mods, why such limited signature space M3post ?

07-27-2009, 11:07 AM	#17
AMPowerJ One mod leads to another ... Drives: 2013 E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Blythewood, SC Posts: 2,326 iTrader: (9) Garage List 2013 BMW E92 M3 [0.00] 2012 Toyota Tacoma [0.00]	Dropped with Dinan and I am glad I did it. The pictures don't really do a good job of representing the drop but is in perfect in my opinion for a daily driver. __________________ 2013 E92 M3 with ESS VT2-585 SC, StopTech BBK, M Perf Exhaust, and a bunch of carbon fiber ...

07-27-2009, 12:21 PM	#18
PunjabiM3 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: VO 1M Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 1,673 iTrader: (1)	No regrets on the H&R springs. I think the front looks much better than stock and honestly I do not think there would be too much fender gap with the Eibach and especially Dinan springs. Only question is the long term effects on the struts, but probably by then it will be time to get something else. __________________ New ride ETA 2 weeks 2012 Audi A6 Prestige, Moonlight Blue 2009 Lexus ES350, Sparkling Graphite (wife's) Previous: 11 e82 1M, 07 997TT, 08 e92 M3, 06 997 C2S, 05 e46 M3 coupe, 03.5 e46 M3 cabrio

07-28-2009, 11:02 PM	#20
duk ///M Drives: 2011 AW/FR 6MT E92 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,700 iTrader: (0)	I will lower my car not mainly for looks but for preformance. Going with Eibachs all the way. Nothing against H&R but the raked look is not for me. __________________ 2011 AW/FR 6MT E92 \| Powered by Premier \| Alekshop \| ESS \| Rok n Peace Clothing: www.roknpeace.com

07-29-2009, 11:04 PM	#22
Eugene-TAIWAN Brigadier General Drives: E92 M3 Coupe Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Taiwan Posts: 3,104 iTrader: (4)	dropping the car is a must!! in my case __________________ Past: Gintani stage3 M3 present: Porsche 993, 964,997.1 GT3, Panamera Turbo waiting to be delivered 2015: Porsche 991 GT3RS

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