BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > Off-Topic Discussions Board
 
BPM Sport
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-21-2009, 03:03 PM   #1
SE3P_to_E90
Banned
 
Drives: E90 Msport + E83 Msport
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: MD

Posts: 3,035
iTrader: (29)

Send a message via AIM to SE3P_to_E90
HELP: NYS Resident ticketed for speeding in N. Carolina

Brief background: I was driving back from Florida from my vacation, and had been driving consistently at 75mph (as per my garmin navigation). I got to North Carolina, and was the 3rd (and last of the bunch) car on the left lane traveling at approximately 72-76mph in a 65mph zone... I wasn't tailgating, or doing anything illegal (that I was aware of). Then, all of a sudden, a cop in the middle divider comes onto the road, all three cars in the left lane merge into the right, and the cop just gets behind me and puts his lights on. I pulled over.

Cop: "Is there a reason you were speeding?"
Me: "I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that I was speeding officer... I was just following the flow of traffic."
Cop: "You were going over 80mph, but I booked you at 80mph already. License, registration, insurance."
Me: [As i hand over my information] "But officer, I didn't go over 75mph."
Cop: "Hang tight, I'll be right back." [walks away with my information]

Cop then comes back with a citation...

Cop: "I wrote you a citation for doing 80mph in a 65mph zone."
Me: "But, I wasn't traveling at that rate of speed... How did you get my speed? Was it via radar or laser?"
Cop: "I got you with radar."
Me: [remembering a cop once telling me... if a cop books you with a radar gun, he has to give you a print out of the speed reading on the gun] "Do you have some sort of proof that I was going that fast? Do you have a receipt of the radar gun printout showing my speed?"
Cop: "This citation is the printout. Have a safe trip."

Cop walks away...

So now, I'm stuck with this dilemma... I wasn't going that fast, but it would be pretty much impossible for me to drive down to the bottom of NC to go to court with this... Do I need to hire an attorney? I heard that the NYS Drivers don't get points from tickets issued out of state... However, there is a chance that the insurance companies might fight out -- hence, raising my premiums...

Should I just pay the ticket off? Or, do I need to hire an attorney to plea bargain this ticket down in order to avoid my insurance company from finding out?

If you have any knowledge with this matter, please chime in. Thanks in advance for your help guys.
SE3P_to_E90 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      07-21-2009, 04:38 PM   #2
Hawkeye
Brigadier General
 
Hawkeye's Avatar
 
Drives: '07 Z4 si Coupe, '08 R6
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Holland

Posts: 3,594
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
That sucks... some cops are just assholes. You might just have to pay it off and hope the insurance doesn't check for a little while. Not much else you can do without spending a good amount of $$.
__________________
2007 Z4 3.0si Coupe 6 MT Black Saphire Metallic PP SP Heated M Seats Clutch Stop Stubby
2008 R6 Raven Black GPR Steering Stabilizer Comp Werks FE Hotbodies Flush Mount Blinkers
2008 Nissan Titan XE King Cab Long Bed 4x4 Line-X
Hawkeye is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
      07-21-2009, 05:26 PM   #3
OC 335i
General
 
OC 335i's Avatar
 
Drives: AW 335D E90
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Irvine/Aliso Viejo, CA

Posts: 18,119
iTrader: (9)

Garage List
2007 335i  [0.00]
Send a message via AIM to OC 335i Send a message via MSN to OC 335i
Trial by declaration.
__________________

Current: 2010 Alpine White 335D LCI l 19" BBS LMs l KW V2 Coilovers l BMW Performance Grilles l MSport Front/Rear l Karbonwerke Trunk l F1 Pinnacle Tint 35% Former: E92 Space Grey 335i Latest pics
OC 335i is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      07-21-2009, 05:44 PM   #4
SE3P_to_E90
Banned
 
Drives: E90 Msport + E83 Msport
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: MD

Posts: 3,035
iTrader: (29)

Send a message via AIM to SE3P_to_E90
Thanks for the help guys... but OC335i, the "Trial by Declaration" is not allowed in the state of North Carolina... ugh.

If anyone has any knowledge specific to my case, please chime in. I can use all the help I can get for this...
SE3P_to_E90 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      07-21-2009, 06:07 PM   #5
TheLegacy
Gangsta status
 
TheLegacy's Avatar
 
Drives: 2002 E39 M5, heavily modded
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Shibuya Tokyo, Rockland NY, Killeen TX

Posts: 972
iTrader: (0)

Send a message via AIM to TheLegacy Send a message via Skype™ to TheLegacy
ya pay the ticket, the end

no points...will insurance find out.... who knows
__________________
-TheLegacy
JDM-EDM-TT-V8-GANGSTA ALL THE WAY
*Modded*
"Ready for the Apocalypse"
TheLegacy is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      07-21-2009, 06:17 PM   #6
TwoSaints
Second Lieutenant
 
TwoSaints's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 M3
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Beaumont, Texas

Posts: 227
iTrader: (0)

speaking as someone who got ticketed A LOT out of NY (had a NY license) - You will not get any points and your insurance will not find out. The only proof I can give you on that is that I changed my insurance twice and always came back with a clean record.

I was pretty excited about it when I figured it out a while back, and have since changed my driving habits.
TwoSaints is offline   Brazil
0
Reply With Quote
      07-21-2009, 07:46 PM   #7
BKV122
Major
 
BKV122's Avatar
 
Drives: E90
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NY

Posts: 1,088
iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2006 330xi  [4.75]
When i was younger my family and i were in Florida and heading down to West palm beach from my grandmas in Daytona and my mom got pulled over for doin 90. she got a ticket and nothing ever happed to her insurance and she just paid it off
__________________

Monaco Blue 330xi - Terra Interior/6-MT/Sport/Premium/Cold/CSL's/M3 Spoiler Lip/Black Kidney's
BKV122 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      07-21-2009, 07:48 PM   #8
SE3P_to_E90
Banned
 
Drives: E90 Msport + E83 Msport
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: MD

Posts: 3,035
iTrader: (29)

Send a message via AIM to SE3P_to_E90
Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoSaints View Post
speaking as someone who got ticketed A LOT out of NY (had a NY license) - You will not get any points and your insurance will not find out. The only proof I can give you on that is that I changed my insurance twice and always came back with a clean record.

I was pretty excited about it when I figured it out a while back, and have since changed my driving habits.
Yea, a few years ago, I was ticketed in PA for excessive speeding (i've changed my driving habit quite a bit since then), and got an attorney to plea bargain a 30+mph violation to a +15mph violation... My insurance never found out, but i didn't know if any laws changed since then.

Anyway, thanks for the friendly advice!
SE3P_to_E90 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      07-21-2009, 09:48 PM   #9
TwoSaints
Second Lieutenant
 
TwoSaints's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 M3
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Beaumont, Texas

Posts: 227
iTrader: (0)

glad I could be of some help.
TwoSaints is offline   Brazil
0
Reply With Quote
      07-21-2009, 10:47 PM   #10
mpimping
Banned
 
Drives: gti
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: ny,ny

Posts: 337
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SE3P_to_E90 View Post
Brief background: I was driving back from Florida from my vacation, and had been driving consistently at 75mph (as per my garmin navigation). I got to North Carolina, and was the 3rd (and last of the bunch) car on the left lane traveling at approximately 72-76mph in a 65mph zone... I wasn't tailgating, or doing anything illegal (that I was aware of). Then, all of a sudden, a cop in the middle divider comes onto the road, all three cars in the left lane merge into the right, and the cop just gets behind me and puts his lights on. I pulled over.

Cop: "Is there a reason you were speeding?"
Me: "I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that I was speeding officer... I was just following the flow of traffic."
Cop: "You were going over 80mph, but I booked you at 80mph already. License, registration, insurance."
Me: [As i hand over my information] "But officer, I didn't go over 75mph."
Cop: "Hang tight, I'll be right back." [walks away with my information]

Cop then comes back with a citation...

Cop: "I wrote you a citation for doing 80mph in a 65mph zone."
Me: "But, I wasn't traveling at that rate of speed... How did you get my speed? Was it via radar or laser?"
Cop: "I got you with radar."
Me: [remembering a cop once telling me... if a cop books you with a radar gun, he has to give you a print out of the speed reading on the gun] "Do you have some sort of proof that I was going that fast? Do you have a receipt of the radar gun printout showing my speed?"
Cop: "This citation is the printout. Have a safe trip."

Cop walks away...

So now, I'm stuck with this dilemma... I wasn't going that fast, but it would be pretty much impossible for me to drive down to the bottom of NC to go to court with this... Do I need to hire an attorney? I heard that the NYS Drivers don't get points from tickets issued out of state... However, there is a chance that the insurance companies might fight out -- hence, raising my premiums...

Should I just pay the ticket off? Or, do I need to hire an attorney to plea bargain this ticket down in order to avoid my insurance company from finding out?

If you have any knowledge with this matter, please chime in. Thanks in advance for your help guys.
You shouldn't have said anything abt the supporting deposition just nod and don't admit wrong doing.
Lawyers are expensive so unless the fine is crazy high forget that and pay it.
mpimping is offline   South Korea
0
Reply With Quote
      07-21-2009, 10:50 PM   #11
CollinsE90
Where my bitches
 
CollinsE90's Avatar
 
Drives: Cadillac coupe deville
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: street corner checking profits

Posts: 1,927
iTrader: (0)

arguing with a po po is like arguing with a stop sign...
__________________
CollinsE90 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      07-22-2009, 08:50 AM   #12
MJC///M3
Colonel
 
MJC///M3's Avatar
 
Drives: 09 SSII E92 M3
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Bronx, NYC

Posts: 2,327
iTrader: (0)

if he put the fine on the actual ticket itself....you are fine...just pay it and no points...

either way...the points won't transfer over into NY.

I got a speeding ticket 2 yrs ago in college (went in PA)....paid my fine...no points...insurance never found out.

just pay it...you'll be fine.
__________________
"You will get there, but it is up to you and you alone. It is what you are willing to do, and how you are willing to get there. You must be relentless, you must be tireless, you must pursue at all costs, so that you are ready, when the time is right." -Dad
MJC///M3 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      07-22-2009, 10:30 AM   #13
SE3P_to_E90
Banned
 
Drives: E90 Msport + E83 Msport
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: MD

Posts: 3,035
iTrader: (29)

Send a message via AIM to SE3P_to_E90
Quote:
Originally Posted by CollinsE90 View Post
arguing with a po po is like arguing with a stop sign...
I was very courteous until he decided to "ignore" me... sucked i got power tripped this time around...

anyway, thanks for all the info fellas. Looks like the best thing for me to do is just pay it off and hope that insurance doesn't get the info.
SE3P_to_E90 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:19 PM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST