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      07-13-2009, 01:48 AM   #1
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Stock m3 e92 vs MTM 2010 S4

"The tuners at MTM have begun tweaking the all-new 2010 Audi S4 (B8) in Europe, and as expected, Audi's new supercharged 333-hp 3.0-liter V6 is rife with potential. With only a revised ECU no underdrive pulley, intake or exhaust mods MTM was able to coax 430 crank horsepower out of the blown six 97 hp more than stock.

The kit, which retails for 2,491 euros (around $3,500 USD), brings torque output up to 380 lb-ft and,according to MTM, drops the 0-60 mph time from 5.2 to 4.6 seconds.Clearly, good things are on the way for the BMW 335i fighter, and weexpect more to follow when the new darling of the Euro-tuning scenearrives in the States later this year."


420hp V8 vs 430hp V6
which is faster on straight line race?
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      07-13-2009, 09:27 AM   #3
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m3 most likely due to it be rwd and the audi's awd.
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      07-13-2009, 10:02 AM   #4
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this is no comp for the m3 i think...

it should be rs4-5 vs the m

and this car vs the 335....

oh and believe me a nicely tuned 335 will take this car too spending 1/10th the money of the 3500
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M3 definitely. It is RWD so lower drivetrain loss. It has a much superior power-to-weight ratio since the S4 weighs in at a hefty 3900 - 4000 lbs, which is around 300 lbs heavier than the M3.
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this is no comp for the m3 i think...

it should be rs4-5 vs the m

and this car vs the 335....

oh and believe me a nicely tuned 335 will take this car too spending 1/10th the money of the 3500
MTM sells overprice parts..once GIAC, REVO,APR start will probably offer the same performance for about 700$-1000$
I think that the S4 will kill the 135-335
They will be easier to mod also(pulley,boost)
(RS4 MTM supercharger is 20K while the VF is about 8K$)

I would buy an m3 over an S4 anyday of the week
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Slightly off topic but interesting that the Audi Q5 concept at a recent motor show featured the S4 3.0L supercharged engine tuned up to 400HP and 400lbft of torque.

This might give a hint of what could be coming with the RS5...
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"The tuners at MTM have begun tweaking the all-new 2010 Audi S4 (B8) in Europe, and as expected, Audi's new supercharged 333-hp 3.0-liter V6 is rife with potential. With only a revised ECU no underdrive pulley, intake or exhaust mods MTM was able to coax 430 crank horsepower out of the blown six 97 hp more than stock.

The kit, which retails for 2,491 euros (around $3,500 USD), brings torque output up to 380 lb-ft and,according to MTM, drops the 0-60 mph time from 5.2 to 4.6 seconds.Clearly, good things are on the way for the BMW 335i fighter, and weexpect more to follow when the new darling of the Euro-tuning scenearrives in the States later this year."


420hp V8 vs 430hp V6
which is faster on straight line race?
That is a very tricky question to answer, I would reckon the M3 will eventually overhaul the S4 but might take it to about 130~135mph to do it.

In stock form the two match up like this (all times supplied are from Europe where both have been tested)

0-100km/h M3 :4.6s vs 5.0s : S4v6
0-160km/h M3 :10.2s vs 11.5s : S4v6
0-200km/h M3 :15.4s vs 18.6s : S4v6

These times were from one magazine (AMS) to show a fair reference point and Europe's method of testing acceleration times, if you were to take both to a dragstrip and use their method of timing (i.e.1ft rollout) then the M3 will regain the lead a little earlier. But if the surface is less than ideal I would say that the M3 would never regain control of the race.
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