New 2009/LCI iDrive controller installation... - Page 3

second_2_nun · 07-25-2009, 11:00 AM

where does it say when the car was built?

lugnut · 07-25-2009, 11:37 AM

When you open the driver's door you should see a black sticker, about 4" x 3", either on the frame or on the side of the door. It will tell you the production month/year.

lugnut · 07-25-2009, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoominrex

Oh that hardly seems worth the money then. So you just get shortcut buttons and the new look joystick?

At this point in time that's correct. After using my GF's 2009 idrive for the past couple months the shortcut buttons are great, and are more of a benefit on our older GUI than on the newer GUI actually since the split screen option is much more rigid with the older system.

Plus, I am hopeful that in a 6 months or so a full retrofit will be available, and this is one less step to take at that point.

aussiem3 · 07-27-2009, 08:55 AM

Got a call from Parts Manager to say that the center console trim has arrived. Picking it up tomorrow after more than two months' wait. Can't wait to install and enjoy the new toy. As I said before the controller is working with my 2007 M3.

mrtm2008 · 08-12-2009, 02:10 PM

I can 100% verify that the controller P/N 65 82 9 213 309 DOES work with a build date of 4/08 !!!

Technic...thanks again for offering to do the swap, but I got the parts in today! and Thanks for all the info!

Marshall

Technic · 08-12-2009, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrtm2008

I can 100% verify that the controller P/N 65 82 9 213 309 DOES work with a build date of 4/08 !!!

Technic...thanks again for offering to do the swap, but I got the parts in today! and Thanks for all the info!

Marshall

Nice...

mrtm2008 · 08-12-2009, 08:07 PM

MuchMoore · 08-19-2009, 06:38 PM

^^ Sweet pic!

Anyone need a DCT console?

aussiem3 · 08-24-2009, 08:34 AM

Installed mine ... the knob is smooth as silk, and everything working fine. Pics to follow. Installation was a breeze after following Technics' instruction. When it lights up at night the cabin looks stunning.

WCH · 08-28-2009, 09:29 AM

Has anyone tried to order the controller recently (p/n 65 82 92 13 309)? Evidently this part number is no longer available and the replacement is also not available.

MuchMoore · 08-28-2009, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WCH

Has anyone tried to order the controller recently (p/n 65 82 92 13 309)? Evidently this part number is no longer available and the replacement is also not available.

I'll keep an eye out for one, haha.

Dundas · 09-01-2009, 02:52 PM

Just installed on an 06/08 build E92 M-DCT. Everything works except the "TEL" button which doesn't seem to do anything. To access my phone I still have to do it the old fashioned way!? Anyone else have any problems with this?

Technic · 09-02-2009, 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dundas

Just installed on an 06/08 build E92 M-DCT. Everything works except the "TEL" button which doesn't seem to do anything. To access my phone I still have to do it the old fashioned way!? Anyone else have any problems with this?

That's new...

aussiem3 · 09-02-2009, 09:13 AM

All my buttons work fine.

Dundas · 09-03-2009, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dundas

Just installed on an 06/08 build E92 M-DCT. Everything works except the "TEL" button which doesn't seem to do anything. To access my phone I still have to do it the old fashioned way!? Anyone else have any problems with this?

Found the problem, the controller was not properly assembled. The back cover in the corner under the "TEL" button was not fully closed (the clip had not been locked over the tab). Guess this met that the momentary switch contacts were not able to connect when the button was pressed. I was able to loosen the torx screws and get the cover on properly. Everything OK now.

aussiem3 · 09-04-2009, 03:20 AM

the car needs at least SW ver E89X-07-09-520 to work with the new controller. The latest SW out at the moment is E89X-09-06-510.

Interestingly, the computer was saying to replace the control unit - CON -
(65 82 9 213 309) with 9 125 348.

Technic · 09-04-2009, 04:30 AM

So far it looks like the M3 pre-LCI iDrive is the only one that is "picky" with the LCI iDrive controller swap and the software/production date versions, as the 3-Series pre-LCI iDrive does not have such swap problems.

The only iDrive requirement in the 3-Series is having the 6 pre-programmed buttons (MY2007) and not any particular production date or TCU type. The swap works as long as it is a MY2007-on iDrive.

aussiem3 · 09-04-2009, 06:34 AM

Looks like it. I took my car into activate the mirror pivoting (wing) when arming the car. It would do it only as part of the integration level being brought to the above (as indicated in the above post). The estimated time was 1hr 45 mts. Given how the components are prone to failure during SW upgrade, and since I didn't want to foot a huge bill replacing part I left it as it's.

Interestingly the computer was showing new part numbers for the following:

K line, DCAN: DME/DDE DSC, DWA, FZD, SMFA, SMBF, EDC-K

MOST: TEL/ULF, AMP, VM, ULF-SBX

Technic · 09-04-2009, 10:38 AM

Nice... so the issue is simply a software update, most probably released around late 03/08.

aussiem3 · 09-04-2009, 06:32 PM

Let me tell you what exactly happens during programming:

The car is connected to the ISTA/P computer via the OBD port.

Then a USB cable connects another port under the glove box to the header data cable

Computer reads the measures for each component on the car and then list them as below

Then another screen asks you whether any components have been changed and if so to list them

Then you run the sw update

If the computer has recognised a control unit that shouldn't be with this production run then it will not process the updated sw for the unit. If you had told the computer during the above process that a component had been updated then it might update that component. I think this is what might have happened with lugnut's car. Because the car was recognising a new component which is not associated with the production date it didn't upgrade the sw for the control unit.
You need to see to believe ... the checks the computer carries out and lists is amazing. Items are listed under the following categories:

Data header

Replacement actions - this where it told me to change the controller

Conversions/retrofits - this is where the new changes are listed

ProgrammingS sequential OBD (K line, DCAN)

Programmings parallel MOST

Encodings

Data Recovery

Additional Actions

mdrobc13 · 09-07-2009, 04:30 PM

Mine works fine. 2008 May build e93 M3 coupe. Great upgrade...would be nice for full new 09 I drive but I can live with this as an upgrade!

lugnut · 09-09-2009, 12:59 AM

Aussie + PG

When I dropped my vehicle off for the recode I already had the new controller installed (the -311 unit). If I am reading Aussie's post correctly the fact that the new unit was already installed may have prevented the SW update from being completed correctly, thus my -311 not working.

What would the solution to this be? Would I have the SW update installed with the original controller, then once back at my home, install the newer controller?

Also, I posted the following question in the other thread relating to this (would a merge make sense for these 2 threads), but how exactly do I go about checking my vehicles software version. What do I need to purchase?

Thanks for the info PG and Aussie!

07-25-2009, 11:37 AM	#46
lugnut First Lieutenant Drives: 2008 E92 M3 Space/Fox Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Springfield, NJ Posts: 345 iTrader: (0)	When you open the driver's door you should see a black sticker, about 4" x 3", either on the frame or on the side of the door. It will tell you the production month/year. __________________ 12 E70 X5d Black Saphire/ Tobacco 08 E92 M3 SG/Fox Red Gintani Race, RG63 09 E90 335xi Crimson/Saddle 02 E46 M3 Cab Imola/Black (Sold-RIP)97 E36 Z3 1.9 Atlanta Blue/Tan (Sold)

07-27-2009, 08:55 AM	#48
aussiem3 Captain Drives: '07 E92 M3/'11 F25 X3 3.0D Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Down Under Posts: 755 iTrader: (0)	Got a call from Parts Manager to say that the center console trim has arrived. Picking it up tomorrow after more than two months' wait. Can't wait to install and enjoy the new toy. As I said before the controller is working with my 2007 M3. __________________ 2007 E92 6MT - Silverstone II with Extended Black and /// Performance Exhaust and BPM Sport Tune 2011 F25 X3 3.0d

08-12-2009, 02:10 PM	#49
mrtm2008 Lieutenant Drives: 08 E90 M3 Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Posts: 442 iTrader: (2)	I can 100% verify that the controller P/N 65 82 9 213 309 DOES work with a build date of 4/08 !!! Technic...thanks again for offering to do the swap, but I got the parts in today! and Thanks for all the info! Marshall __________________ 08 E90 M3, JrzB/BB, 360 Forged 8 Mesh, H&R Springs, RPI Scoops, Eisenmann Sport Exh, VRS Lip, CF Decklid, CF Diffuser, OSS LED AE, Rear Headrest V1, '09 iDrive Controller, Euro Rear Fog, OEM BlackLine TL, MRTM Design E90 Pedals & Door Lock Studs

08-12-2009, 08:07 PM	#51
mrtm2008 Lieutenant Drives: 08 E90 M3 Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Posts: 442 iTrader: (2)	__________________ 08 E90 M3, JrzB/BB, 360 Forged 8 Mesh, H&R Springs, RPI Scoops, Eisenmann Sport Exh, VRS Lip, CF Decklid, CF Diffuser, OSS LED AE, Rear Headrest V1, '09 iDrive Controller, Euro Rear Fog, OEM BlackLine TL, MRTM Design E90 Pedals & Door Lock Studs

08-19-2009, 06:38 PM	#52
MuchMoore Colonel Drives: 08 E90 335i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: CenFla Posts: 2,315 iTrader: (28)	^^ Sweet pic! Anyone need a DCT console? __________________ \| Andrew \| M Technik \| BMW Performance \| BBS \| Forge \| V1 \| LUX \| Bilstein \| Precision-Sport \|

07-25-2009, 11:00 AM	#45
second_2_nun MMA Changed My Life! Drives: Fine Tuned e92 & 2010 e82 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: so cal Posts: 5,780 iTrader: (42) Garage List 2008 e92 [0.00] "2006 sport bi ... [0.00] 2008 e92 [0.00] 2008 e92 coupe [0.00]	where does it say when the car was built?

08-24-2009, 08:34 AM	#53
aussiem3 Captain Drives: '07 E92 M3/'11 F25 X3 3.0D Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Down Under Posts: 755 iTrader: (0)	Installed mine ... the knob is smooth as silk, and everything working fine. Pics to follow. Installation was a breeze after following Technics' instruction. When it lights up at night the cabin looks stunning. __________________ 2007 E92 6MT - Silverstone II with Extended Black and /// Performance Exhaust and BPM Sport Tune 2011 F25 X3 3.0d

08-28-2009, 09:29 AM	#54
WCH Captain Drives: '11 E92 M3 SSII; '12 ML63 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 993 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2012 Mercedes ML63 [0.00] 2012 BMW 550xi M-sport [0.00] 2011 E92 M3 [0.00]	Has anyone tried to order the controller recently (p/n 65 82 92 13 309)? Evidently this part number is no longer available and the replacement is also not available. __________________

09-01-2009, 02:52 PM	#56
Dundas Enlisted Member Drives: '08 E92 M3 DCT Jerez Black Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hamilton, Canada Posts: 31 iTrader: (0)	Just installed on an 06/08 build E92 M-DCT. Everything works except the "TEL" button which doesn't seem to do anything. To access my phone I still have to do it the old fashioned way!? Anyone else have any problems with this?

09-02-2009, 09:13 AM	#58
aussiem3 Captain Drives: '07 E92 M3/'11 F25 X3 3.0D Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Down Under Posts: 755 iTrader: (0)	All my buttons work fine. __________________ 2007 E92 6MT - Silverstone II with Extended Black and /// Performance Exhaust and BPM Sport Tune 2011 F25 X3 3.0d

09-04-2009, 03:20 AM	#60
aussiem3 Captain Drives: '07 E92 M3/'11 F25 X3 3.0D Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Down Under Posts: 755 iTrader: (0)	the car needs at least SW ver E89X-07-09-520 to work with the new controller. The latest SW out at the moment is E89X-09-06-510. Interestingly, the computer was saying to replace the control unit - CON - (65 82 9 213 309) with 9 125 348. __________________ 2007 E92 6MT - Silverstone II with Extended Black and /// Performance Exhaust and BPM Sport Tune 2011 F25 X3 3.0d

09-04-2009, 04:30 AM	#61
Technic Major General Drives: 2012 E92 M3, 2010 CC Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 9,797 iTrader: (13) Garage List 2004 M3 [0.00]	So far it looks like the M3 pre-LCI iDrive is the only one that is "picky" with the LCI iDrive controller swap and the software/production date versions, as the 3-Series pre-LCI iDrive does not have such swap problems. The only iDrive requirement in the 3-Series is having the 6 pre-programmed buttons (MY2007) and not any particular production date or TCU type. The swap works as long as it is a MY2007-on iDrive.

09-04-2009, 06:34 AM	#62
aussiem3 Captain Drives: '07 E92 M3/'11 F25 X3 3.0D Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Down Under Posts: 755 iTrader: (0)	Looks like it. I took my car into activate the mirror pivoting (wing) when arming the car. It would do it only as part of the integration level being brought to the above (as indicated in the above post). The estimated time was 1hr 45 mts. Given how the components are prone to failure during SW upgrade, and since I didn't want to foot a huge bill replacing part I left it as it's. Interestingly the computer was showing new part numbers for the following: K line, DCAN: DME/DDE DSC, DWA, FZD, SMFA, SMBF, EDC-K MOST: TEL/ULF, AMP, VM, ULF-SBX __________________ 2007 E92 6MT - Silverstone II with Extended Black and /// Performance Exhaust and BPM Sport Tune 2011 F25 X3 3.0d

09-04-2009, 10:38 AM	#63
Technic Major General Drives: 2012 E92 M3, 2010 CC Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 9,797 iTrader: (13) Garage List 2004 M3 [0.00]	Nice... so the issue is simply a software update, most probably released around late 03/08.

09-04-2009, 06:32 PM	#64
aussiem3 Captain Drives: '07 E92 M3/'11 F25 X3 3.0D Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Down Under Posts: 755 iTrader: (0)	Let me tell you what exactly happens during programming: The car is connected to the ISTA/P computer via the OBD port. Then a USB cable connects another port under the glove box to the header data cable Computer reads the measures for each component on the car and then list them as below Then another screen asks you whether any components have been changed and if so to list them Then you run the sw update If the computer has recognised a control unit that shouldn't be with this production run then it will not process the updated sw for the unit. If you had told the computer during the above process that a component had been updated then it might update that component. I think this is what might have happened with lugnut's car. Because the car was recognising a new component which is not associated with the production date it didn't upgrade the sw for the control unit. You need to see to believe ... the checks the computer carries out and lists is amazing. Items are listed under the following categories: Data header Replacement actions - this where it told me to change the controller Conversions/retrofits - this is where the new changes are listed ProgrammingS sequential OBD (K line, DCAN) Programmings parallel MOST Encodings Data Recovery Additional Actions __________________ 2007 E92 6MT - Silverstone II with Extended Black and /// Performance Exhaust and BPM Sport Tune 2011 F25 X3 3.0d

09-07-2009, 04:30 PM	#65
mdrobc13 Major Drives: '12 BMW 550i Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: On a base somewhere near or afar! Posts: 1,393 iTrader: (5) Garage List 2012 BMW 550i [5.00]	Mine works fine. 2008 May build e93 M3 coupe. Great upgrade...would be nice for full new 09 I drive but I can live with this as an upgrade! __________________ '12 F10 550i (DGM-II - Dinan Stage 3/Shockware, H&R Springs, Eisenmann Race Exhaust, Hamman CF rear difuser, Giovanni "Lindo" Graphite 20" Staggered Wheels) '10 e71 X6 35iDrive SAV (Space Gray) - Gone '06 e85 Z4 M Roadster (Black Metallic) -Gone '08 e92 M3 coupe (Sparkling Graphite) -Gone

09-09-2009, 12:59 AM	#66
lugnut First Lieutenant Drives: 2008 E92 M3 Space/Fox Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Springfield, NJ Posts: 345 iTrader: (0)	Aussie + PG When I dropped my vehicle off for the recode I already had the new controller installed (the -311 unit). If I am reading Aussie's post correctly the fact that the new unit was already installed may have prevented the SW update from being completed correctly, thus my -311 not working. What would the solution to this be? Would I have the SW update installed with the original controller, then once back at my home, install the newer controller? Also, I posted the following question in the other thread relating to this (would a merge make sense for these 2 threads), but how exactly do I go about checking my vehicles software version. What do I need to purchase? Thanks for the info PG and Aussie! __________________ 12 E70 X5d Black Saphire/ Tobacco 08 E92 M3 SG/Fox Red Gintani Race, RG63 09 E90 335xi Crimson/Saddle 02 E46 M3 Cab Imola/Black (Sold-RIP)97 E36 Z3 1.9 Atlanta Blue/Tan (Sold)

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