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      07-09-2009, 06:39 AM   #45
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Since these exhaust are hand built... is it possible to order an exhaust with shorter tips for the e90?
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Since these exhaust are hand built... is it possible to order an exhaust with shorter tips for the e90?
Yes. I've checked with Gintani, and they specially make tips that suit either the e92 or the e90 M3.
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      07-09-2009, 08:42 AM   #47
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Yes. I've checked with Gintani, and they specially make tips that suit either the e92 or the e90 M3.
sweet... one more exhaust to consider for the car


I think black would look good on my JzB.
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Mine is shipping out tomorrow, any performance changes that you have felt?

Is it any more responsive?
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sweet... one more exhaust to consider for the car


I think black would look good on my JzB.
Definitely. If I get the Gintani, I'm gonna go with ceramic black coated.
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      07-10-2009, 01:55 PM   #50
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sweet... one more exhaust to consider for the car


I think black would look good on my JzB.
Yeah, the black looks good on almost all the colors. I have Jet black e90 and it looks sick, i love it.

Here some pics of my e90 w/Ginatani full exhaust in black, sorry my car was dirty.

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      07-10-2009, 02:25 PM   #51
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Yeah, the black looks good on almost all the colors. I have Jet black e90 and it looks sick, i love it.

Here some pics of my e90 w/Ginatani full exhaust in black, sorry my car was dirty.

Damn... those are some big ass pipes you go there Nice car!

btw, did you specify an e90 fitment on your exhaust? it looks like they stick out a bit, but not as bad as the Remus exhausts.
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      07-10-2009, 03:46 PM   #52
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Thanks, well the Gintani exhaust is adjustable for e90/e92 so u can set it how far out u want it. I personally like the raw race look so i love how it sits, it looks better in person.
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Thanks, well the Gintani exhaust is adjustable for e90/e92 so u can set it how far out u want it. I personally like the raw race look so i love how it sits, it looks better in person.
So it's adjusted via installation, and not having specific tips for e90 and e92/93?

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      07-10-2009, 04:32 PM   #54
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Thanks, well the Gintani exhaust is adjustable for e90/e92 so u can set it how far out u want it. I personally like the raw race look so i love how it sits, it looks better in person.
The pics that you just posted:

Is that before or after Gintani changed your tips to the e90 version?
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So it's adjusted via installation, and not having specific tips for e90 and e92/93?

That contradicts this post:
When I called Gintani a while back, I asked why Niterider's tips stuck out so much. Gintani said that they updated his exhaust with new/shorter tips, and that they look much better now. I was told that they had different tips for the e90. Maybe I misunderstood. Correct me if I have mistaken. Thanks.
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      07-10-2009, 05:34 PM   #56
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Maybe they just modified the hangers so you can push them in or out as far as you want to compensate: E90, E92, or diffuser. Kind of like what AA did with their exhaust.
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Maybe they just modified the hangers so you can push them in or out as far as you want to compensate: E90, E92, or diffuser. Kind of like what AA did with their exhaust.

I thought AA uses adjustable tips?
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      07-10-2009, 06:15 PM   #58
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I thought AA uses adjustable tips?
That's what I thought also......Or maybe they use both ways...?...
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      07-10-2009, 06:33 PM   #59
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I thought AA uses adjustable tips?
AA tips are adjustable for sure. Took my obsessive-compulsive ass an hour and a half to get them even .
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Our E90 system is 1 inch shorter than our E92/E93 system. Both systems have adjusters built in for fine adjustment(1 Inch).

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      07-10-2009, 07:04 PM   #61
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We only have one exhaust for the E9x M3, But we have adjustable clamps near the beginning of the rear section for customfitment. With the adjustable clamps you can either push out the exhaust or bring it back. I will post a picture for everyone to see.
Thanks... please do, especially on an e90. Most of us wanna see how far inward the exhaust can go to hide the tips
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OK, well, I still don't have my effing cruise-cam so I can't really take decent after install videos with my 1080p cam (I have some iphone video of the OEM exhaust w/ a Decibel Meter, but traffic was too heavy this afternoon to do a 4th gear pull from 75mph to 7krpms).

I picked up my M3 last week, and so far have put about 700 miles on it w/ the Gintani exhaust. I had to attend a wedding in St. Michael's, MD this weekend, so I figured it would be a great test for the every-day livability of the Gintani system. If my Girlfriend could deal with 500 mile round trip in the car, all is right with the world, and if not, she can hop back in her 335xi

As I posted before there is a drone between around 1600-2100 or so. This isn't really a problem unless you do mostly city driving, or, like what happened to me this past Friday, driving in 15mph bumper to bumper traffic for 2 hours. There is simply no way to really avoid the drone under those rare circumstances. Any after market exhaust would drone driving in what I sat though. Since the OEM system drones, anything louder will also increase the volume of the drone. It's a trade-off that I think almost all of us are willing to make, especially once you see the Gintani pipes on the back of your ride.

As you move up through the rpms the drone settles down, and the you can cruise all day long between 2300+rpms completely drone free. There is a slight increase in volume from about 2950-3050rpms though. This is not a drone but the sound level seems to peak inside the cabin should you keep the needle in this range (not sure why anyone would ever feel the need to keep the tach buried in this tiny range - my preliminary Db recordings the volume level jumps up to about 90 Dbs at 3000rpm, then drops back down to around 78 Dbs by 3100 or so). This is an incredibly small RPM band, and you normally move right past it while driving without ever noticing any change. Again, in normal driving I have yet to experience any drone. In fact, this sound really is only noticeable when I had my windows up, with the radio off, AC off, and sitting in total silence TRYING to make it drone (which I pretty much failed at ) If I had my windows down this volume jump seemed impercievable.

The only 2 reasons I really even noticed this noise jump were that 1) I was actively hunting for drone, often driving in ways that none of us actually do in an attempt to induce it; radio and AC off, not talking, windows up, and 2) after crawling through stop and go traffic for a couple of hours, I grew lazy, and didn't feel like down shifting out of 6th gear while cruising between 45-80mph. During normal highway cruising this 3000rpm sound bubble is nothing any prospective customer should be concerned about. Again, it's not a drone at all like the low rpm drone, but a minor cabin volume bump. When I drove the car like a normal person would (non-aggresively shifting at 4k rpms in every gear, radio at a normal, adult volume, conversing with a passenger in the car), the Gintani system is awesome. 80mph and up in 6th gear on a highway is drone free, and cabin noise is in the high 70s-high 80s decibel wise (OEM exhaust: 90mph/5th gear/4100rpm = 80Dbs. 90mph/4th gear/5100rpm = 80Dbs).

Also, I kept a running tally this weekend of the various complaints, compliments I would recive. St. Michael's, MD is a quiet Harbor town on the Chesapeake, and if anybody would give me grief over it I figured it would be the conservitive folks in a town like Saint Michaels'. During the course of the weekend I ended up getting 6 thumbs-up, 2 people asking me to rev it up (including a police officer), and managaed to make 4 middle aged women jump Not one complaint. In fact, one older gentleman and his wife at the wedding (around 68 or so, driving a S550) thought that it sounded "just perfect".

I have put 2 full tanks of fuel through the car since my Gintani install, and have gotten 17.2mpg so far (doing the real math, not using the car's computer). This is exactly what I averaged over the past 18 months with my stock system, so anyone that might be scared off by occasionally using 5th gear on the highway at 65mph as using too much fuel shouldn't worry.

As for looks and sound at idle, its AMAZING. The beefy tips fit perfectly, and the sound when you start the car can best be describe as pure evil .

Hopefully I can take some video tomorrow afternoon so you all can get a better feel for the sound inside the cabin. It's a wonderfully deep sound, with no break-up during RPM increase/decrease.

All in all, I absolutely love my choice of exhaust, and have no problem living with it as a daily driver so far. To repeat, if you simply get in and drive you will absolutely love the Gintani system. I hope Alex and Raz at Gintani don't think I was being too tough, because I really love the way my car looks and sounds now. It's taken me since February of 2008 to settle on an exhaust system, largely because I felt that there was a lack of in-depth, cards on the table, honest reviews out there. I was really going out of my way to try to find downsides to the Gintani system, and to be honest, if the only downside I can find is that there is a 8 or so decibel bump in a 200rpm range with the radio off and windows up, then I think the guys at Gintani have done an amazing job of bringing a unique system to the table. In fact, a friend of mine that just put a UUC catback on his M3 a week prior to my Gintani, saw and heard my system, and immediately declared that he is ordering it. At the time we were with 2 other E9x M3 owners, and everyone loved the tone of the Gintani system. In fact, I haven't received a complaint yet. Everyone that has seen it and heard it has loved it.

If anyone in the NJ area wants to hear it and take it for a spin, just drop me a PM and I'll be glad to arrange something for you. As far as I know I am the only M3 in the area with a Gintani catback so far.
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Here are a couple of pics. I lightened them so the exhaust can be seen since it is blacked out. The last picture was not altered.
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Lugnut, thanks for the very in-depth review and altered and unaltered pictures. Really clarified everything. Good to hear there is no "drone" at highway speeds and just an increased sound that doesn't seem bothering. Let us know if the black powdercoat shows any fade, chips, or wear
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I want to thank you also Lugnut. Your review in detail has immensly helped me. I just hope the tips fit up perfectly with the E90 M3. On Niterider's pics posted right before yours, they look a little too long.
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I want to thank you also Lugnut. Your review in detail has immensly helped me. I just hope the tips fit up perfectly with the E90 M3. On Niterider's pics posted right before yours, they look a little too long.
Dude! Don't worry about fitment; the Gintani exhaust has adjustment slides built into it where the x-pipe mates up with the axle back. You can push the exhaust out, or bring it back in. Alex will take care of you when you purchase it .
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