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      07-28-2016, 03:07 PM   #1
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The haters - need to vent and share

Need to vent. The background is I've owned several nice cars over the years. An X5M, a 2015 X6M, an F80 M3, Range Rover, a CLS63, audi S5, etc. Ownership has spanned the past 12 years from the time I was 25 to today at age 37.
Their is a fair amount of love from car guys, but the hate is just amazing to me.
Shortly after I set the X5M up with beautiful 22" votsteiners someone took a crow bar to it in a parking lot while I was out to dinner. I came back to find the the car destroyed. It was fixed but I dont even want to tell you the diminished value when I traded it in due to extensive body work. This was in 2011 or 2012.
I've had men in their 50's yell out the window comments about me driving my "daddys car". I look young but really? My dad drives a 2004 Honda Civic. I grew up sort of poor in a sort of shitty neighborhood. Had what I needed, but a family of 4 living on not much income. Just the other day 2 grown men parked just inches from my bumper outside if the dry cleaners. I was driving the F80 M3 - When I walked out of the dry cleaners to see this and said what the F they proceeded to tell me "your a douche" These men had never seen me before - just my car parked outside and thought lets fuck with this guy. I lost it and kicked off his side view mirror. Looking back - that was probably not the right thing to do, but I'd had enough. Today I was attempting to merge lanes just 10 minutes ago and I can see this man in his van cursing me out. He then pulls up and says "your in a BMW so I guess you dont wait" Wait? Im merging with my turn signal on like anyone else. Im a car guy- always have been. I take pride in my daily driver and my toys. When I see another nice car I give a nod. When I see others succeed in life - I Applaud. Success in any form. But what the F is up with these haters? They see a nice car and Im just immediately an asshole? They dont know me, my background, what it took for me to get to where I am today. What is your experience? Is it just me? Do uneducated people just act this way? Do people who have never been around a nice vehicle just assume those who drive them are assholes? Is it jealousy. It just really doesnt make sense. Oh - the man in the van motioned for me to pull over after some words exhanged. I did. He drove right past... F'ing p--sy

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Need to vent. The background is I've owned several nice cars over the years. An X5M, a 2015 X6M, an F80 M3, Range Rover, a CLS63, audi S5, etc. Ownership has spanned the past 12 years from the time I was 25 to today at age 37.
Their is a fair amount of love from car guys, but the hate is just amazing to me.
Shortly after I set the X5M up with beautiful 22" votsteiners someone took a crow bar to it in a parking lot while I was out to dinner. I came back to find the the car destroyed. It was fixed but I dont even want to tell you the diminished value when I traded it in due to extensive body work. This was in 2011 or 2012.
I've had men in their 50's yell out the window comments about me driving my "daddys car". I look young but really? My dad drives a 2004 Honda Civic. I grew up sort of poor in a sort of shitty neighborhood. Had what I needed, but a family of 4 living on not much income. Just the other day 2 grown men parked just inches from my bumper outside if the dry cleaners. I was driving the F80 M3 - When I walked out of the dry cleaners to see this and said what the F they proceeded to tell me "your a douche" These men had never seen me before - just my car parked outside and thought lets fuck with this guy. I lost it and kicked off his side view mirror and said get out and talk shit to my face. Looking back - that was probably not the right thing to do, but I'd had enough. Today I was attempting to merge lanes just 10 minutes ago and I can see this man in his van cursing me out. He then pulls up and says "your in a BMW so I guess you dont wait" Wait? Im merging with my turn signal on like anyone else. Im a car guy- always have been. I take pride in my daily driver and my toys. When I see another nice car I give a nod. When I see others succeed in life - I Applaud. Success in any form. But what the F is up with these haters? They see a nice car and Im just immediately an asshole? They dont know me, my background, what it took for me to get to where I am today. What is your experience? Is it just me? Do uneducated people just act this way? Do people who have never been around a nice vehicle just assume those who drive them are assholes? Is it jealousy. It just really doesnt make sense. Oh - the man in the van motioned for me to pull over after some words exhanged. I did. I got out. He drove right past... F'ing p--sy

Absolutely. All the time, I get slack nonstop.

Take a look at my stable of cars below in my sig - I'm 25.

I drove my GTR to the gas station once and this older (late 50s?) crotchety man bangs on my window and asked me to get out of the car so he could "beat me senseless" because my parents apparently never did?

I get out of the car with my large pocket knife in my hand and the gentleman starts apologizing with a bright cherry red face.

Another time a "gang" of guys surrounded my GTR with their pants on the ground and began to rub their hands and clothes all over my car because "I'm too young to have it". Luckily there was no damage but this stuff happens ALL the time.

It all stems from pure jealousy.

They want what you have but they can't have it, so they craft a narrative in their head on your life based on their imagination.
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Yarp, I get this shit on the daily. No big deal, man. Just smile it off because you're not gonna change their minds.
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Absolutely. All the time, I get slack nonstop.

Take a look at my stable of cars below in my sig - I'm 25.

I drove my GTR to the gas station once and this older (late 50s?) crotchety man bangs on my window and asked me to get out of the car so he could "beat me senseless" because my parents apparently never did?

I get out of the car with my large pocket knife in my hand and the gentleman starts apologizing with a bright cherry red face.

Another time a "gang" of guys surrounded my GTR with their pants on the ground and began to rub their hands and clothes all over my car because "I'm too young to have it". Luckily there was no damage but this stuff happens ALL the time.

It all stems from pure jealousy.

They want what you have but they can't have it, so they craft a narrative in their head on your life based on their imagination.
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Your last comment makes perfect sense. They craft a narrative about me and my life to justify their actions.
I'm no rich kid. Far from it, worked hard for it. BUT - who the F has the right to judge regardless. If I want to buy my son a porsche 911 on his 16th birthday does that make my son an asshole and mean he needs a beating?
He'll probably get a jeep, not a 911 but its the point!
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Your last comment makes perfect sense. They craft a narrative about me and my life to justify their actions.
I'm no rich kid. Far from it, worked hard for it. BUT - who the F has the right to judge regardless. If I want to buy my son a porsche 911 on his 16th birthday does that make my son an asshole and mean he needs a beating?
He'll probably get a jeep, not a 911 but its the point!
Absolutely. The last time my parents helped me buy a car was my FIRST car at age 16, where they provided the down payment and an OCCASIONAL monthly payment if my low-paying job wasn't making it.

But what's that anyone's business but my own?

The general public doesn't get to judge me based on what they THINK happened.

Everyone wants it all on a silver platter for themselves now a days. Anyone else who has more MUST have a horrible blood diamond story behind them, and they MUST be evil. We call them Bernie Sanders supporters!
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I'm wondering where you guys live. That stuff is very rare for me. I'm not saying that it never happens, but it is extremely rare. I get many more positive comments than negative ones concerning my M3. Maybe there are just more car guys around here or more expensive cars, or maybe it's something other that what you are driving that's rubbing people the wrong way.
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I'm wondering where you guys live. That stuff is very rare for me. I'm not saying that it never happens, but it is extremely rare. I get many more positive comments than negative ones concerning my M3. Maybe there are just more car guys around here or more expensive cars, or maybe it's something other that what you are driving that's rubbing people the wrong way.
I work in Manhatten - live in New Hope Pa.
Does not typically happen in New Hope, or down the shore.
It does happen when Im back in NE phila where I grew up. Happened in Norristown today - so yes - areas where nice cars are not commonplace.

Your comment about doing something else rubbing them the wrong way. You are way off. These people did not even see me. I was in a restuarant - X5M parked. I was in a dry cleaner - car parked outside. Today - this guy only saw my blinker and car when he started acting up.
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This is what Obama and the Dem have created
entitlement, socialism and jealousy. I've taught my
kids to work hard and you'll get ahead like i did. It's
not that they are uneducated they been indoctrinated
by the government ran schools and collages. My son
went to Penn State and told me about his professors.
I mean come on the Bernie supporters free this free that...
what ever happened to work for it?
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I lost it and kicked off his side view mirror and said get out and talk shit to my face.
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I got out. He drove right past... F'ing p--sy
You seem to have done well for yourself at your age. You get to drive a nice car home and very likely live in a much nicer place than the folks you have encountered. My advice is to take it easy and let things go. With so many crazies out there, you run the risk of getting shot or something bad happening. And even if you win a physical altercation you won't want to deal with the legal nightmare that could follow (i.e., lawsuit). You'll encounter many more nut jobs in your life - best to ignore them and move along.
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This is what Obama and the Dem have created
entitlement, socialism and jealousy. I've taught my
kids to work hard and you'll get ahead like i did. It's
not that they are uneducated they been indoctrinated
by the government ran schools and collages. My son
went to Penn State and told me about his professors.
I mean come on the Bernie supporters free this free that...
what ever happened to work for it?
Take your political opinions elsewhere. Also, what do collages have to do with one's education?
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To the OP: In my lowly 3 years of M3 ownership, no one has ever said anything negative to me. Maybe it's 'cuz I have an E90, and no one knows what it is, it's just a sedan.
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You seem to have done well for yourself at your age. You get to drive a nice car home and very likely live in a much nicer place than the folks you have encountered. My advice is to take it easy and let things go. With so many crazies out there, you run the risk of getting shot or something bad happening. And even if you win a physical altercation you won't want to deal with the legal nightmare that could follow (i.e., lawsuit). You'll encounter many more nut jobs in your life - best to ignore them and move along.
I agree with you. Was not a smart move on my part. But it is what I did in the moment...
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I'm wondering where you guys live. That stuff is very rare for me. I'm not saying that it never happens, but it is extremely rare. I get many more positive comments than negative ones concerning my M3. Maybe there are just more car guys around here or more expensive cars, or maybe it's something other that what you are driving that's rubbing people the wrong way.
Smalltown, USA for me.
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I've only owned my M3 since February but have never even really been looked at twice, good or bad. Around here it's just another BMW I guess. Same goes for my wife's F30 328i. No one has ever said a word or looked at us crooked.

From reading this thread so far, it seems like the areas you frequent make the biggest difference.

The only crap I ever get is from my friends when I reverse into a parking spot from time to time. They call it the "douche bag maneuver".
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But what the F is up with these haters? They see a nice car and Im just immediately an asshole? They dont know me, my background, what it took for me to get to where I am today. What is your experience? Is it just me? Do uneducated people just act this way? Do people who have never been around a nice vehicle just assume those who drive them are assholes? Is it jealousy. It just really doesnt make sense. Oh - the man in the van motioned for me to pull over after some words exhanged. I did. I got out. He drove right past... F'ing p--sy
Might be your "LOLPOORS" vanity plate - Could be rubbing some the wrong way.

In all seriousness, it might be that you're doing something to upset them or you could live in an angry place like NYC or Philly where people are generally angry and stressed out 99% of the time or - more likely - some combination of the foregoing. i seriously doubt anyone in hippie New Hope even has a concern for what you drive.

Nobody in my town even looks twice at my E90, let alone does anything to disturb me... and that's with my having alumni plates of a school a lot of people like to hate (not Duke, but close).
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Not sure if serious or satire.
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