Chalk another one up for the bad guys!

pawarrant · 08-17-2006, 11:24 AM

Thank you p.o.s. ACLU and Democrats for helping the terrorists again.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060817/D8JI9A281.html

NFS · 08-17-2006, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pawarrant

Thank you p.o.s. ACLU and Democrats for helping the terrorists again.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060817/D8JI9A281.html

Yeah - it would be much better if we could all live in a right wing totalitarian police state

pawarrant · 08-17-2006, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by needforspeed

Yeah - it would be much better if we could all live in a right wing totalitarian police state

Yea the United States is really a right wing totalitarian police state. Have you ever even been here?

thedean786 · 08-17-2006, 12:17 PM

So the judge did the right thing - what's wrong with that? Whatever happened to innocent before proven guilty? I mean you sit here exalting the prowess of our great nation and the many rights we have yet you deny them to the very citizens who make up our nation. You think that just because 9/11 happened that somehow you have the right to a "blank check" whenever you feel like it? And then you wonder why they hate us.

our enemies didn't wake up one morning and say "Hey you know I'm feeling a little bored today" It was a systematic bretrayal by our government and a uneven foreign policy that has brought us to this point. On one hand we say we don't like totalitarian states but on the other hand we have our secretary of defense shaking hands with the enemy. We say we want peace and justice but yet we let our best friend Israel commit mass genocide in Gaza while we give them more aid then any other country in the world to the tune of $8 billion.

The world stage doesn't have any room for hypocrisy - we need to make up our minds once and for all on how we want to do things and what kind of presence we want in the world. This constant back and forth and mixed messages we are sending just isn't going to cut it.

pawarrant · 08-17-2006, 12:22 PM

MrSilver · 08-17-2006, 12:27 PM

The Judge made the correct ruling.

pawarrant · 08-17-2006, 12:34 PM

To all of you who think the judge made the correct ruling...do you think if the U.S. obtained information using this method about an impending terrorist attack against lets say your kids school that it should not be used and the attack should go ahead as planned? wtf

tl_boy · 08-17-2006, 12:44 PM

Good news. Again, there are other ways to know about terrorist attacks without invading the privacy of our homes. Again, we were warned about specific threats from Phillipine intelligence prior to 9/11 but failed to act. Again, the hijackers were on student visas, but never showed upto classes... these are red flags that should have been considered, and were not. What good would wire tappings do? My sister is liberal, I'm moderate. We argue about terrorism and other world events on the phone all the time. I'd hate for the government to arrest me, or one of us if they were tapping our lines and thinking wer'e up to something. Its a waste of tax payer dollars. Send moles into Mosques, milita groups, etc. that's what we should be doing.

MrSilver · 08-17-2006, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pawarrant

To all of you who think the judge made the correct ruling...do you think if the U.S. obtained information using this method about an impending terrorist attack against lets say your kids school that it should not be used and the attack should go ahead as planned? wtf

Do you know anything about Constitutional law?

MrSilver · 08-17-2006, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BadBob

Do you?

I'm a Federal Litigator.

I would hope so.

pawarrant · 08-17-2006, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MrSilver

I'm a Federal Litigator.

I would hope so.

You work for the U.S. government as an attorney?

pawarrant · 08-17-2006, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MrSilver

Do you know anything about Constitutional law?

Nice way to avoid answering the question.

pawarrant · 08-17-2006, 01:10 PM

B.T.W. just because some liberal District Judge makes a ruling, does not make it correct. We will see if this decision holds up to appeal.

pawarrant · 08-17-2006, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BadBob

That doesn't necessarily mean you know diddly about Constitutional law.

It actually means you probably don't have any common sense.

MrSilver · 08-17-2006, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BadBob

That doesn't mean you know diddly about Constitutional law.

It does when my principal opponent is the United States Attorney General, Department of Justice, Department of State, and Department of Homeland Security.

Have you ever read the Constitution?

I have.

A copy of the Constitution and the complete Bill of Rights never leaves my desk.

In my opinion, the Terrorist Surveillance Program is in direct violation of both the First and Fourth amendments to the United States Constitution.

Judge Taylor just so happens to agree with my opinion.

Who agrees with yours?

pawarrant · 08-17-2006, 01:21 PM

So you don't work for the U.S. government, you make your living opposing them. No wonder you agree with a decision which weakens our nation.

MrSilver · 08-17-2006, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BadBob

Uhhh, the Bill of Rights happens to be the first 10 amendments to the Constitution of the United States of America. I can see now that you're a Constitutional scholar.

The name of the book that I was referring to that never leaves my desk.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/019...lance&n=283155

It is a fairly well known treatise in the field of Con Law.

Ghunger · 08-17-2006, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BadBob

Uhhh, the Bill of Rights happens to be the first 10 admendants to the Constitution of the United States of America. I can see now that you're a Constitutional scholar.

So what he said was wrong? Why don't you guys grow up. Personal attacks instead of doing anything to prove your point gets us no where.
The fact that we have people in this country that are so closed minded and unwilling accept others opinions scares me almost as much as terrorism.

MrSilver · 08-17-2006, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghunger

So what he said was wrong? Why don't you guys grow up. Personal attacks instead of doing anything to prove your point gets us no where.
The fact that we have people in this country that are so closed minded and unwilling accept others opinions scares me almost as much as terrorism.

See my post above.

I was referring to the title of a well known treatise in the field of Con Law.

Josh49 · 08-17-2006, 01:30 PM

Pawarrant's FLIR targeting - coming to an e90 near you....

(specifically yours)

pawarrant · 08-17-2006, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh49

Pawarrant's FLIR targeting - coming to an e90 near you....

(specifically yours)

LOL

Josh49 · 08-17-2006, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pawarrant

LOL

Can't wait for the "Hellfire meets e90" video in the video forum!!

08-17-2006, 11:24 AM	#1
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08-17-2006, 12:17 PM	#4
thedean786 A Herald of Doom Drives: 2002 Infiniti I35t Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 230 iTrader: (0)	So the judge did the right thing - what's wrong with that? Whatever happened to innocent before proven guilty? I mean you sit here exalting the prowess of our great nation and the many rights we have yet you deny them to the very citizens who make up our nation. You think that just because 9/11 happened that somehow you have the right to a "blank check" whenever you feel like it? And then you wonder why they hate us. our enemies didn't wake up one morning and say "Hey you know I'm feeling a little bored today" It was a systematic bretrayal by our government and a uneven foreign policy that has brought us to this point. On one hand we say we don't like totalitarian states but on the other hand we have our secretary of defense shaking hands with the enemy. We say we want peace and justice but yet we let our best friend Israel commit mass genocide in Gaza while we give them more aid then any other country in the world to the tune of $8 billion. The world stage doesn't have any room for hypocrisy - we need to make up our minds once and for all on how we want to do things and what kind of presence we want in the world. This constant back and forth and mixed messages we are sending just isn't going to cut it. __________________

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08-17-2006, 12:34 PM	#7
pawarrant SECDEF Drives: 2013 Melbourne Red 328xi Sport Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 756 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 328xi [0.00]	To all of you who think the judge made the correct ruling...do you think if the U.S. obtained information using this method about an impending terrorist attack against lets say your kids school that it should not be used and the attack should go ahead as planned? wtf __________________ 2013 328xi Melbourne Red Metallic/Black Dakota Leather/Red Highlights Anthracite Wood Trim Retired:2009 328ixi Sedan Montego Blue Metallic/Saddle Brown Dakota Leather Aluminum Trim Retired: 2006 325xi Monaco Blue Metallic/Gray Dakota Leather Dark Burl Walnut Wood Trim Retired: 2003 325xi Steel Grey Metallic/Black Leather Wood Trim

08-17-2006, 12:44 PM	#8
tl_boy Major Drives: tl Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: houston Posts: 1,329 iTrader: (0)	Good news. Again, there are other ways to know about terrorist attacks without invading the privacy of our homes. Again, we were warned about specific threats from Phillipine intelligence prior to 9/11 but failed to act. Again, the hijackers were on student visas, but never showed upto classes... these are red flags that should have been considered, and were not. What good would wire tappings do? My sister is liberal, I'm moderate. We argue about terrorism and other world events on the phone all the time. I'd hate for the government to arrest me, or one of us if they were tapping our lines and thinking wer'e up to something. Its a waste of tax payer dollars. Send moles into Mosques, milita groups, etc. that's what we should be doing. __________________ E90 Mods (work in progress): Euro Xenon Headlamps, 19" ASA AR-1's with Toyo T1R 235 fronts and 275 rears, Breyton style front spoiler, Breyton style rear spoiler, Huper Optik 40% Tint, TiAG with Black 'ette and Aluminum trim, Chrome grills, chrome exhaust, Hartge lowering springs, PMB Hyperwhites.

08-17-2006, 01:10 PM	#13
pawarrant SECDEF Drives: 2013 Melbourne Red 328xi Sport Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 756 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 328xi [0.00]	B.T.W. just because some liberal District Judge makes a ruling, does not make it correct. We will see if this decision holds up to appeal. __________________ 2013 328xi Melbourne Red Metallic/Black Dakota Leather/Red Highlights Anthracite Wood Trim Retired:2009 328ixi Sedan Montego Blue Metallic/Saddle Brown Dakota Leather Aluminum Trim Retired: 2006 325xi Monaco Blue Metallic/Gray Dakota Leather Dark Burl Walnut Wood Trim Retired: 2003 325xi Steel Grey Metallic/Black Leather Wood Trim

08-17-2006, 01:21 PM	#16
pawarrant SECDEF Drives: 2013 Melbourne Red 328xi Sport Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 756 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 328xi [0.00]	So you don't work for the U.S. government, you make your living opposing them. No wonder you agree with a decision which weakens our nation. __________________ 2013 328xi Melbourne Red Metallic/Black Dakota Leather/Red Highlights Anthracite Wood Trim Retired:2009 328ixi Sedan Montego Blue Metallic/Saddle Brown Dakota Leather Aluminum Trim Retired: 2006 325xi Monaco Blue Metallic/Gray Dakota Leather Dark Burl Walnut Wood Trim Retired: 2003 325xi Steel Grey Metallic/Black Leather Wood Trim

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